Chevy is next.
- rtang415

That's what i was thinking

That's what i was thinking
- BetweenTheDots

Every man in the room at that meeting should never be allowed to sell peanuts at a ECHL hockey game let alone serve in positions of power in the NHL. All 5 (or was it 6?0 men failed their duty to lead and protect their player. Shame on them all and their purge from the league is mandatory.

That's what i was thinking
- BetweenTheDots

Bettman is not going to let any off the hook with this.

Every man in the room at that meeting should never be allowed to sell peanuts at a ECHL hockey game let alone serve in positions of power in the NHL. All 5 (or was it 6?0 men failed their duty to lead and protect their player. Shame on them all and their purge from the league is mandatory.
- kwolf68

Yep,

Yep,
- BetweenTheDots

The ironic part of this is the guy who caused this mess has skated free. McD’s head better be on a swivel.

Bettman is not going to let any off the hook with this.
- rtang415

Agree but don't forget the league also failed Beach when he went to the nhlpa and they did nothing maybe its time for new leadership as leader of nhlpa and commissioner of the nhl. The whole system failed starting with the Chicago Blackhawks management team in 2010 and NHL and nhlpa. As for the players I'm sure they feel remorse and wish they could've done more looking back and maybe they do going forward in reaching out to Beach and saying sorry. But this will be black eye the hawks for years or decades to come. Shame on them

NHL Network talking about legacies of these men.

The ONLY THING any of these men can do is to own it and actively embrace Kyle's situation and do whatever they can to make things safer and better on the other side. Will they do that? Or will they just vanish into the night and hope to resurface in a few years in some other role after all is forgotten? Or will they take an active role in bringing about change. Beach is an incredibly forgiving guy it appears and I think an honest act of contrition and empathy by any of these men would be met positively by Beach. That would show me a LOT about the real character of these men and is the only thing they can do to rehabilitate their image. Anxiously holding my breath.

Agree but don't forget the league also failed Beach when he went to the nhlpa and they did nothing maybe its time for new leadership as leader of nhlpa and commissioner of the nhl. The whole system failed starting with the Chicago Blackhawks management team in 2010 and NHL and nhlpa. As for the players I'm sure they feel remorse and wish they could've done more looking back and maybe they do going forward in reaching out to Beach and saying sorry. But this will be black eye the hawks for years or decades to come. Shame on them
- Scott1977

Bettman’s job is safe. As for the NHLPA goes if this gets down to the player level it will be interesting to see what they do b

Won't it be something if the captain of the 2022 Cup winning team refuses to take it from Bettman if Aldrich's name is still engraved on it?

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...name-from-the-stanley-cup

1. Beach's life / career changed forever.

2. Bowman out.

3. MacIsaac out.

4. Quenville out.

5. Chevy most likely out.

All because that POS McDonough stated "I'll take care of this".

Still no statement from that POS who ruined so many lives.

Effing disgrace.

Exhale.

1. Beach's life / career changed forever.

2. Bowman out.

3. MacIsaac out.

4. Quenville out.

5. Chevy most likely out.

All because that POS McDonough stated "I'll take care of this".

Still no statement from that POS who ruined so many lives.

Effing disgrace.

Exhale.
- mike7076

THEY ALL are to blame. Friedman making a good point now that no matter your position or status, if you know something and keep your mouth shut you will be held accountable, especially for people in leadership.

NONE of these men are innocent. Hell, the jackass MacIsaac actually gave the sex predator his ring personally.

That said, if there is a public flogging I will admit McDonough would be the first one to go.

THEY ALL are to blame. Friedman making a good point now that no matter your position or status, if you know something and keep your mouth shut you will be held accountable, especially for people in leadership.

NONE of these men are innocent. Hell, the jackass MacIsaac actually gave the sex predator his ring personally.

That said, if there is a public flogging I will admit McDonough would be the first one to go.
- kwolf68

I have a hard time believing that all of them were naive enough to think that this would never come out at some time.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/report-the-nhl-will-not-remove-brad-aldrich-s-name-from-the-stanley-cup
- boilermaker100

So there is your 2010 asterisk for the Cup, that jokers name on the Cup. You got your Cup Q, McCub, MacIsaac, Stan, Chevy. You got it. How does it taste now tiger?

I have a hard time believing that all of them were naive enough to think that this would never come out at some time.
- rtang415

They were men in positions of considerable power, there are different rules for them and they damn near pulled off the cover-up until that kid in Michigan was assaulted which is the impetus for Beach coming forward.

The leadership of the Hawks actually were naive, naive in thinking that if they didn't corral this monster they had in their employ that he would not do it again. Him repeating his predation lead to each of their demise.

They all made a bad choice.

They were men in positions of considerable power, there are different rules for them and they damn near pulled off the cover-up until that kid in Michigan was assaulted which is the impetus for Beach coming forward.

The leadership of the Hawks actually were naive, naive in thinking that if they didn't corral this monster they had in their employ that he would not do it again. Him repeating his predation lead to each of their demise.

They all made a bad choice.
- kwolf68

Yes they did and now have pay the piper so hopefully not only in the NHL but other leagues in sports learn from this and make better decisions if something like happens. Same with society and workplace. So now as Blackhawks fans we move on and watch hockey some may not be able and some can. Imo towes and are gone this upcoming offseason with the hawks wiping the slate clean.
Like to see either Ray Shero or Rutherford or even torts as head of hockey operations as for gm candidates we have named many names.

There is a lot of truth here.

Chances are, these players (Toews, Kane, Keith, etc) had no clue at the time or thru the playoffs and even summer. I'm sure as the rumors flew and the season started was when more knew (?) maybe....but its not as if Duncan Keith hing out with the guy and/or had any reason to.

Keith prob hung with a few D men his same age - in workout and meal groups. These guys go to the rink and home and dont hang out with AHL call ups.

Now not to say the following year more came out, etc - who knows that.

But this framing/going after the players...

Interesting that Beach called out the media. Said they knew.

Notice none of the media is questioning each other?

Who in the media looked the other way in order to get favorable coverage by McDonough?

All those media guys are covering for each other. Calling out players- who were early 20's at the time - yet NONE are calling at their own.

Hypocrisy
- PatShart

These guys don't sh$t in their own nests. Covering an NHL team is a plum job. Many almost become team promoters and with spellcheck they don't even have to know how to spell or form sentences. They like being called insiders. Journalists they are not.

So I'm trying to make sense of the timeline of Beach's career with the Hawk organization. He gets molested in the spring of 2010 as a Black Ace. In September, he goes to training camp and supposedly gets harassed/abused there by the players in full view of the coaches and management staff. He then goes and plays 3 full seasons in Rockford. Can't make the NHL team any year and nobody hears or reports anything about the Aldrich matter. Beach obviously doesn't confide in any reporter about the now 3 year old incident hanging over his head.

Then for the 2013/14 season he plays a few games in Rockford and then the Hawks arrange a transfer to some team in Sweden. He plays a few games and there is a parting of the ways. Bowman then trades him to NYR for Mashinter and he ends up in Hartford for the balance of the season. And since then he has played in Europe as a forgotten soul until a couple months ago. And then the sh$t hits the fan.

So the Hawks sweep it completely under the rug; the clueless investigative press around the Hawks organization do a Sgt Schultz I see nothing/I hear nothing move and no more is heard from Beach for the next 6 years until some months ago.

There has to be quite a few more layers of this onion to be peeled away still.

Wrong. The Bullying occurred in training camp in Chicago
- HonkyTonkMan

Okay, so several players called him names in camp, according to Beach. Even though none of the players interviewed heard anything, lets say he is telling the truth. It's training camp, and there were 47 players that year. That's more than twice the normal roster size. And you have coaches and team personnel constantly evaluating, coaching and judging the players. Let's not forget the video cameras running constantly by the coaching staff for the on-ice evaluations.

With nobody admitting to have heard anything - and with the number of players/coaches around, it must have been done in very opportune and/or hushed circumstances.

So let's talk context. My response was to another poster claiming that Toews was a piece of poop because this happened under his watch and he is a bad leader, etc... Going back to the assumption that these horrible things were said, it is also possible that maybe Toews spent little or no time in close proximity to Beach, or players wouldn't say something while Toews was close to Beach, or even maybe even Toews did hear something and stood up for Beach?

The poster assumed that Beach was on the team the whole time with Toews, and that all the bullying happened under his watch. Yet there are no witnesses (or Beach himself) that claim that Toews participated in the bullying or ignored the bullying.

So, I'm not wrong.

Also, I want to squash the argument that Bowman and others "thought" McFool had taken care of it thus they have no (or just a little) culpability.

So I will give Stan and MacIsaac or whoever a pass that on the day of the meeting they left thinking "aight, McCub has it, all good".

Then a few weeks later there is the sex predator holding your Stanley Cup, there he is at the parade, there he is at the freaking flag raising. At no point did any of these pass-the-buck asshats look over at the sex predator and go, "Holy poop, John didn't take care of this...

MAYBE I SHOULD LOOK INTO THIS."

None did, they honestly did not care. No wonder Kyle Beach broke down when he said that was the moment he felt like nothing, seeing the Sex Predator prancing around with the Cup.

THEN to add insult to injury the Hawks give this guy the CUP to take to the town where he would eventually get hired so he could assault a minor child.

There is zero spin to any of this. The men in that meeting should never ever hold positions of power again. They need a Come to Jesus, find some courage in personal responsibility and start doing Ted Talks in how not to be a complete jackass.

THEY ALL are to blame. Friedman making a good point now that no matter your position or status, if you know something and keep your mouth shut you will be held accountable, especially for people in leadership.

NONE of these men are innocent. Hell, the jackass MacIsaac actually gave the sex predator his ring personally.

That said, if there is a public flogging I will admit McDonough would be the first one to go.
- kwolf68

Not disagreeing on the THEY, as THEY definitely failed miserably as a whole.

What I’m saying is if that POS McDonough would have “taken care of this” like he said he would, none of this is happening.

Effing disgrace.

Exhale.

1. Beach's life / career changed forever.

2. Bowman out.

3. MacIsaac out.

4. Quenville out.

5. Chevy most likely out.

All because that POS McDonough stated "I'll take care of this".

Still no statement from that POS who ruined so many lives.

Effing disgrace.

Exhale.
- mike7076

McD is the major dam in this entire issue. It wouldn't surprise me it he had a "spy" in HR that 86's the report when he said "I'll take care of it". Will Blunk talk?

Not disagreeing on the THEY, as THEY definitely failed miserably as a whole.

What I’m saying is if that POS McDonough would have “taken care of this” like he said he would, none of this is happening.

Effing disgrace.

Exhale.
- mike7076

See my post before yours. Yes you are right, BUT ALSO IF any of those other men had followed up after seeing the Sex Predator at Hawks functions multiple times then this also would not be happening. I do loathe McDonough, nothing but marketing and a scandal would hurt the brand, I get it, he's PE#1, but they all own it.

See my post before yours. Yes you are right, BUT ALSO IF any of those other men had followed up after seeing the Sex Predator at Hawks functions multiple times then this also would not be happening. I do loathe McDonough, nothing but marketing and a scandal would hurt the brand, I get it, he's PE#1, but they all own it.
- kwolf68

100% agree.

It’s especially cringe worthy looking at those photos, big smiles around, full well knowing the guys an accused sex offender.

Near impossible to defend that.

Exhale.

THEY ALL are to blame. Friedman making a good point now that no matter your position or status, if you know something and keep your mouth shut you will be held accountable, especially for people in leadership.

NONE of these men are innocent. Hell, the jackass MacIsaac actually gave the sex predator his ring personally.

That said, if there is a public flogging I will admit McDonough would be the first one to go.
- kwolf68

F$ck Elliott Friedman and his motherhood and apple pie BS litany as if he is revealing something nobody could have concluded. Like most of these hockey media types, including many former players doing a media gig, Friedman kisses a lot of rings around the league so he can be first on a story. Now he is doing sermons on the new NHL morality.

I want to hear straight up, no holds barred stuff from guys like Jeff O'Neill, Kevin Bieksa, Kypreos and a few other ex players on what they would have done if they found themselves in Beach's position; do they have different slant on this; in their careers did they encounter stuff that was covered up.

There is a lot of ugly around the NHL, it isn't only in Chicago.

Won't it be something if the captain of the 2022 Cup winning team refuses to take it from Bettman if Aldrich's name is still engraved on it?

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...name-from-the-stanley-cup
- boilermaker100

Love how all the players are last on the cup. Suit (frank)ing idiots.

Since it came from Ek, it's just as likely he was given a 5 year extension
- TheGame316

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