Apparently, almost all the team knew. I read that they would make homophobic comments indirectly about it or relating to it. I believe Sopel and another former teammate came forward and said the team knew about it.
- Fakepartofme

Kane and Keith claim they didn’t know anything about it.

Further, everyone who knew and didn't do poop are accomplices. They can and should be charged and if they aren't criminally charged then they should feel lucky they only lost their job.
- Aaron_85

This is my number one question:

Is turning a blind eye illegal?

Can they be charged with something?

I honestly don't know.

This is my number one question:

Is turning a blind eye illegal?

Can they be charged with something?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

What I don't get is why the NHL has already levied their punishment on the Blackhawks - a 2M fine, but they haven't even spoken to Q, or Cheveldayov. It seems like there is a lot more to get to the bottom of. Arizona loses draft picks - real consequences to the product for their prospect tampering, yet the Hawks get away with an inconsequential fine? Doesn't seem right.

They franking wrote him a franking letter of recommendation, which he used to get positions at schools - including the one where he sexually assaulted a minor.
- Atomic Wedgie

They are accomplices and should be criminally charged.

Don Fehr said the system failed Kyle but the only part of the system that failed him are the people in it, including Don. They should be gone. You clearly can't do your job.

This is my number one question:

Is turning a blind eye illegal?

Can they be charged with something?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's not illegal.

But you're gonna get canceled for sure.

- TheMussel

Kane and Keith claim they didn’t know anything about it.
- Canada Cup

Former Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Brent Sopel said his 2009-10 teammates should be "telling the truth publicly" about being aware of the allegations of sexual assault against then-video coach Brad Aldrich.

In an interview with TSN's Rick Westhead, the retired NHL veteran said most of the players and coaches knew during the 2010 Western Conference Final that two Blackhawks players had accused Aldrich of sexual assault.

"...I'd say pretty much every player said, 'Holy s--t' and was shocked by it," Sopel said. "We were all in the same dressing room. It was something that was discussed for at least two or three days. [Then head coach Joel] Quenneville was in the same office as [Aldrich]. We heard about it."

https://bleacherreport.co...ed-alleged-sexual-assault

Apparently, almost all the team knew. I read that they would make homophobic comments about it. I believe Sopel and another former teammate came forward and said the team knew about it.
- Fakepartofme

Sopel came forward about it, and I believe that was around the time the racist comments were made toward Akim Aliu as well..

- TheMussel

that's what happens when you pee in the under ground parking.

mall jail

This is my number one question:

Is turning a blind eye illegal?

Can they be charged with something?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes, they are accomplices. They helped this minor be sexually assaulted. I can't remember the term but I do believe you can be charged for this. Accessory to the fact? Similar to how a getaway driver is charged for just driving a car.

I think.

I think there needs to be a separation between a hockey punishment and an ethical punishment. What Arizona did was violate rules to gain a competitive advantage and hence they were punished in terms of picks - which is where they were trying to gain their advantage.

What the Blackhawks did was a moral and ethical violation - they didn't cheat the game of hockey. They covered up a felony. I would think a financial penalty makes more sense - but it should have been larger and all of it should be dispersed to appropriate charities.
- Monkeypunk

Disagree. The punishment should be far more severe and include draft picks. The Hawks made it clear that the cup run took precedence over dealing with this heinous crime. All those complicit should never work in the NHL again. Fining a team $2 Million is a drop in the bucket for most NHL owners (the Wirtz family is worth over $4.4 Billion). The Hawks should forfeit several picks, set up a perpetual charitable foundation and put measures in place that demonstrate with transparency that sexual predators will not be able to exist within their organization. Doing the right thing is a simple concept, it has something to do with common decency, which the organization did not show.

Sopel came forward about it, and I believe that was around the time the racist comments were made toward Akim Aliu as well..
- PatC80

If Peters was fired and recently Gruden in the NFL for 10 year old emails, for saying racist things then Q and Chevy should be fired for their part in this.

It isn't illegal to say that stuff but you still lost your job.

I agree.. It's on Donald Fehr and the Chicago coaches/management/ownership that did know about it.

I do think it's possible that maybe some of the players didn't know about it right away.. I don't think the perpetrator or the victim would brag about doing something like this, so I can understand that part.. Toews was the team captain, and he likely did know about it and did nothing either..

This whole thing is very disturbing.. A heavier fine should been the penalty and even a draft pick or two..
Beach is the survivor, not the guilty party.
- PatC80

Some people refused to be interviewed, but there were 6 players out of 14 interviewed who denied knowledge about it. There were more players who were aware that _something_ had happened, but most denied any specific knowledge of what had happened. That said, there are accounts of the players knowing, the coaches knowing, accounts of taunting, mocking, and even during training camp in the following season, multiple players on Chicago taunting Beach with derogatory names and comments like, "Miss your boyfriend, Brad?"

The team knew. The players knew.

Ironically as much as I don't like Don Fehr, I'm not sure what his responsibility was here - Beach was not a member of the NHLPA and Fehr was not engaged until after Aldrich was dismissed - notably in regards to trying to get him removed from being involved with the US Junior Men's Hockey Team. Fehr did get Beach an NHLPA appointed therapist, but it doesn't appear that he followed-up with USA Hockey.

Disagree. The punishment should be far more severe and include draft picks. The Hawks made it clear that the cup run took precedence over dealing with this heinous crime. All those complicit should never work in the NHL again. Fining a team $2 Million is a drop in the bucket for most NHL owners (the Wirtz family is worth over $4.4 Billion). The Hawks should forfeit several picks, set up a perpetual charitable foundation and put measures in place that demonstrate with transparency that sexual predators will not be able to exist within their organization. Doing the right thing is a simple concept, it has something to do with common decency, which the organization did not show.
- winsix

I agree with this.

I think it IS tied to hockey as you said. I would go as far as to say the championships should be striped of the team.

$2 million is what? A (frank)ing home game worth of tickets in the finals?

I know I've been ranty on this subject but this whole "system failed" poop irks me that they are playing damage control only because they were (frank)ing caught. They could have done so much more and nobody cared until they were forced.

They franking wrote him a franking letter of recommendation, which he used to get positions at schools - including the one where he sexually assaulted a minor.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes, I did read that as well, completely forgot about that.
Unbelievable, what a bunch of POS's.
I believe JQ also gave him a positive year end review as well.

Some people refused to be interviewed, but there were 6 players out of 14 interviewed who denied knowledge about it. There were more players who were aware that _something_ had happened, but most denied any specific knowledge of what had happened. That said, there are accounts of the players knowing, the coaches knowing, accounts of taunting, mocking, and even during training camp in the following season, multiple players on Chicago taunting Beach with derogatory names and comments like, "Miss your boyfriend, Brad?"

The team knew. The players knew.

Ironically as much as I don't like Don Fehr, I'm not sure what his responsibility was here - Beach was not a member of the NHLPA and Fehr was not engaged until after Aldrich was dismissed - notably in regards to trying to get him removed from being involved with the US Junior Men's Hockey Team. Fehr did get Beach an NHLPA appointed therapist, but it doesn't appear that he followed-up with USA Hockey.
- Monkeypunk

The reports were that Don was informed and Don said an investigation would occur and it never did.

Even if Beach falls into this grey area of being in the PA, he was on a NHL roster when this happened in the playoffs. If these people want to talk how they don't tolerate these things, then they shouldn't hide behind "technically he wasn't a union member so my hands are tied! Good luck!"

Even if Don didn't want to get involved did he talk to Bettman and force him to talk to the Blackhawks? Like this is silly to defend any inaction here. Don knew this happened, why weren't cops called on Aldrich then? Like ridiculous that this guy DID NOTHING of substance to help this situation.

Don is culpable based on the information I have.

Kane and Keith claim they didn’t know anything about it.
- Canada Cup

Apparently they are lying.
It was brought up during their cup run and apparently talked about in the locker room

Disagree. The punishment should be far more severe and include draft picks. The Hawks made it clear that the cup run took precedence over dealing with this heinous crime. All those complicit should never work in the NHL again. Fining a team $2 Million is a drop in the bucket for most NHL owners (the Wirtz family is worth over $4.4 Billion). The Hawks should forfeit several picks, set up a perpetual charitable foundation and put measures in place that demonstrate with transparency that sexual predators will not be able to exist within their organization. Doing the right thing is a simple concept, it has something to do with common decency, which the organization did not show.
- winsix

Agreed.

This is my number one question:

Is turning a blind eye illegal?

Can they be charged with something?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's an excellent question. I believe it may be related to the difference between civil and criminal law. There is a law in some States (California for sure but I'm not sure about Illinois) called Misprison of a Felony. So it is illigal to not report a felony in some States.

Some people refused to be interviewed, but there were 6 players out of 14 interviewed who denied knowledge about it. There were more players who were aware that _something_ had happened, but most denied any specific knowledge of what had happened. That said, there are accounts of the players knowing, the coaches knowing, accounts of taunting, mocking, and even during training camp in the following season, multiple players on Chicago taunting Beach with derogatory names and comments like, "Miss your boyfriend, Brad?"

The team knew. The players knew.

Ironically as much as I don't like Don Fehr, I'm not sure what his responsibility was here - Beach was not a member of the NHLPA and Fehr was not engaged until after Aldrich was dismissed - notably in regards to trying to get him removed from being involved with the US Junior Men's Hockey Team. Fehr did get Beach an NHLPA appointed therapist, but it doesn't appear that he followed-up with USA Hockey.
- Monkeypunk

I do think the people that refused to be interviewed did so, because they knew about it and did nothing.

Fehr was the head of the NHLPA, it was his job to make sure every player was protected, he should have said/done something at that time.

Isn't the role of a captain to be able to talk and listen about things outside of hockey as well? The captain should know his 'ship'.
I strongly believe Toews knew..

Keith and Kane saying that they had no knowledge at that time it was actually happening, I can maybe buy that because the victim and/or the perpetrator wouldn't brag about doing this.
However, the following season at training camp, everyone must have known. Brent Sopel even said it was talked about in the dressing room..

Disagree. The punishment should be far more severe and include draft picks. The Hawks made it clear that the cup run took precedence over dealing with this heinous crime. All those complicit should never work in the NHL again. Fining a team $2 Million is a drop in the bucket for most NHL owners (the Wirtz family is worth over $4.4 Billion). The Hawks should forfeit several picks, set up a perpetual charitable foundation and put measures in place that demonstrate with transparency that sexual predators will not be able to exist within their organization. Doing the right thing is a simple concept, it has something to do with common decency, which the organization did not show.
- winsix

I agree that the financial penalty is way too minimal. I also think that everyone who was specifically complicit shouldn't be working in hockey again.

I'm just saying that punishments that have historically involved picks had to do with things that specifically involved cheating the on-ice product, not the off-ice product.

We can want our pound of flesh here, but the biggest issue is that the financial penalty isn't anywhere near significant enough, and justice has yet to be meted.

Yes, they are accomplices. They helped this minor be sexually assaulted. I can't remember the term but I do believe you can be charged for this. Accessory to the fact? Similar to how a getaway driver is charged for just driving a car.

I think.
- Aaron_85

I think its Accessory after the fact, if people had knowledge about the crime but tried to allow the person to avoid arrest or punishment. Which could lead to obstruction of justice. But they would have to be proven to have assisted the offender after the crime.

Now, I'm getting really close to "talking out of my @ss" territory as Im not a lawyer or anything, but I think its along these lines above.

I do think the people that refused to be interviewed did so, because they knew about it and did nothing.

Fehr was the head of the NHLPA, it was his job to make sure every player was protected, he should have said/done something at that time.

Isn't the role of a captain to be able to talk and listen about things outside of hockey as well? The captain should know his 'ship'.
I strongly believe Toews knew..

Keith and Kane saying that they had no knowledge at that time it was actually happening, I can maybe buy that because the victim and/or the perpetrator wouldn't brag about doing this.
However, the following season at training camp, everyone must have known. Brent Sopel even said it was talked about in the dressing room..
- PatC80

I believe in the report it says it was brought up during the playoff run...in the locker room. Even Sopel said this occurred, he says everyone knew. Taunts and jokes were being made apparently.
This was before training camp if I have it correct.

This is my number one question:

Is turning a blind eye illegal?

Can they be charged with something?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

Morally it is.. Legally, I am not a lawyer.

Why do the Leafs pinch on every play now??

And Muzzin, get your act together.

oh, the Power Play,,, LOLOL