I had issues with employment because of my own issues and speaking my mind, and got fired because of it. I can't expect to go into a company and change the rules to my liking just because they don't fit me. Everyone including you wants to have say and control over everything. If you don't like what an employer does or how they handle things, the door is right there and you are free to leave any time you choose. Frankly there are a lot of poor companies out there skirting the rules and laws, and you and I aren't going to change them, therefore if you don't like something you ask to be traded or sent somewhere else, or you quit. On the other hand, no one should be dealing with sexual harassment at work, but it happens all the time, and it will never end. There is always going to be someone somewhere that pushes past the boundaries. When I work with my clients, I explain to them that an interview is a 2 way street, and if you don't like something about the employer you pose questions in regards to it during the interview or reach out to someone else who works at said company to understand the work culture. If you expect things to change from this, good luck. Maybe the next time it happens they will be better about it and not laugh it off, but companies have their own rules in place and for us to go in and try to change them because they fired me or treated me poorly is not necessary, you in that case, move on and try to learn from the past mistake and pose questions in regards to these things to make a valid decision on whether you want to work for said employer. I also recognize things are a bit different with young men joining professional sports, but if the situation played out the way it did, he could have asked to be traded and not accepted the outright to AHL. If I disagreed with how an employer handled things, I wouldn't work for them and if I did, I would quit or in his case ask to be traded.
- Hawk4life

Easy to say. Don Fehr the head of the NHLPA knew, the organization that is supposed to protect the players. They also did nothing. The guy probably thought he was stranded on an island.

Who cares. People know who it is. It's not as if people are reaching out to him on social media and making fun of him. We are talking about it in a chat forum as adults. I haven't tried to reach out to the guy. I feel for him, truly do, but I am not going to cater to everyone of you just because you choose not to share their name. No one is going to pick on the guy for what he did. And he probably isn't going around looking at various hockey forums to find out if people are talking about him.
- Hawk4life

So why say his name? your personal satisfaction?

Here is my take on Q. Even if Q sat through the whole meeting I think he and Chevy were on the bottom of the power structure and therefore would risk there job if they would have reminded McD or Stan that this predator needs to be reported to the police. Just like in the real Corporate World, low level managers do not make waves during major corporate meetings because they will suffer the consequences.
- spanky

Or, you do the right thing and report it immediately!! Q always said, “nobody likes winning more than me!!” Q was going to keep his mouth shut because winning the Cup was more important to him than John Doe. Q and Kevin C. should suffer the consequences too, IMO. No excuses should be made for any of these guys, what these guys did was terrible and immoral by choosing not to address it once they heard about it. These coaches and executives are as cut-throat as it gets, and will stop at nothing in order to win. Morals go out the window for all of them when they have a chance at the ultimate prize!!

Easy to say. Don Fehr the head of the NHLPA knew, the organization that is supposed to protect the players. They also did nothing. The guy probably thought he was stranded on an island.
- LAHawk

At the end of the day, the damage has been done, the person has been taken care of and the NHL may make some changes. Time to move on from it and focus on how poorly the hawks have played this year under Colliton.

Because he’s referred to as John Doe. He clearly does not want his name out there because of people like you. People who will vilify him and somehow portray him as everything you’ve described him as: a money grubbing reject who is angling because he failed. We all agreed not to share his name, because we have common decency. We are asking the same of you. Please stop posting his name. This has nothing to do with you, even though you clearly have been through a lot.
- ObeseOprah

We did? Everyone?

I had issues with employment because of my own issues and speaking my mind, and got fired because of it. I can't expect to go into a company and change the rules to my liking just because they don't fit me. Everyone including you wants to have say and control over everything. If you don't like what an employer does or how they handle things, the door is right there and you are free to leave any time you choose. Frankly there are a lot of poor companies out there skirting the rules and laws, and you and I aren't going to change them, therefore if you don't like something you ask to be traded or sent somewhere else, or you quit. On the other hand, no one should be dealing with sexual harassment at work, but it happens all the time, and it will never end. There is always going to be someone somewhere that pushes past the boundaries. When I work with my clients, I explain to them that an interview is a 2 way street, and if you don't like something about the employer you pose questions in regards to it during the interview or reach out to someone else who works at said company to understand the work culture. If you expect things to change from this, good luck. Maybe the next time it happens they will be better about it and not laugh it off, but companies have their own rules in place and for us to go in and try to change them because they fired me or treated me poorly is not necessary, you in that case, move on and try to learn from the past mistake and pose questions in regards to these things to make a valid decision on whether you want to work for said employer. I also recognize things are a bit different with young men joining professional sports, but if the situation played out the way it did, he could have asked to be traded and not accepted the outright to AHL. If I disagreed with how an employer handled things, I wouldn't work for them and if I did, I would quit or in his case ask to be traded.
- Hawk4life

You're talking about a 21 year old kid who has dreamt his whole life about playing professional hockey. At this point he knows that there are a heck of a lot of players and only a small percentage will make the NHL. He has been threatened by a person in supposedly a position of influence that if he says anything he will never play in the NHL. Yeah, he can ask for a trade or quit, and he can also at that point kiss any chance of making the NHL goodbye.

So why say his name? your personal satisfaction?
- LAHawk

Yes, I had a spaz attack and had to share the name or I would explode.

We did? Everyone?
- mohel

LOL, like when old man Daley was mayor of Chicago. He votes yes, we automatically voted yes, whether you were there or not.

I think that this is far from over and may go even higher. From pages 10 and 11 in the report:

* until recently, it was the Blackhawks’ general practice to not retain email data for individuals after their employment with the Blackhawks ended.

I believe this is total BS. IRS law requires at 3 - 7 years of retention and claiming "company policy" is also BS. McDouchebag left only last year, so there has to be something. Companies tend to retain executive's email over a longer period to protect themselves. On top of all that, the lawyer for the two players was on the radio today and she said that the hawks refused to let them do discovery and talk to employees. They are hiding something.

* Brad Aldrich’s 2010 personnel file could not be located after extensive searches.
We therefore could not review Aldrich’s employment application and any notes that were added to Aldrich’s 2010 file
by Human Resources.

This is damning. Again, they are hiding something.

You're talking about a 21 year old kid who has dreamt his whole life about playing professional hockey. At this point he knows that there are a heck of a lot of players and only a small percentage will make the NHL. He has been threatened by a person in supposedly a position of influence that if he says anything he will never play in the NHL. Yeah, he can ask for a trade or quit, and he can also at that point kiss any chance of making the NHL goodbye.
- TheTrob

Didnt this same poop happen to Akium Aleu? Let's move on and stop talking about it. It really isn't our business, and nothing we say or talk about is going to change anything about what already happened.

I think that this is far from over and may go even higher. From pages 10 and 11 in the report:

* until recently, it was the Blackhawks’ general practice to not retain email data for individuals after their employment with the Blackhawks ended.

I believe this is total BS. IRS law requires at 3 - 7 years of retention and claiming "company policy" is also BS. McDouchebag left only last year, so there has to be something. Companies tend to retain executive's email over a longer period to protect themselves. On top of all that, the lawyer for the two players was on the radio today and she said that the hawks refused to let them do discovery and talk to employees. They are hiding something.

* Brad Aldrich’s 2010 personnel file could not be located after extensive searches.
We therefore could not review Aldrich’s employment application and any notes that were added to Aldrich’s 2010 file
by Human Resources.

This is damning. Again, they are hiding something.
- Tanuki

It is not erased forever unless the server was bleachbited, those records even if not "retained" can still be recovered. I learned that when my company got a subpoena and someone's e-mail said someone was an idiot. Well the plaintiff's attorneys were able to recover it. We had a seminar in what you could and could not write in an e-mail.

I think that this is far from over and may go even higher. From pages 10 and 11 in the report:

* until recently, it was the Blackhawks’ general practice to not retain email data for individuals after their employment with the Blackhawks ended.

I believe this is total BS. IRS law requires at 3 - 7 years of retention and claiming "company policy" is also BS. McDouchebag left only last year, so there has to be something. Companies tend to retain executive's email over a longer period to protect themselves. On top of all that, the lawyer for the two players was on the radio today and she said that the hawks refused to let them do discovery and talk to employees. They are hiding something.

* Brad Aldrich’s 2010 personnel file could not be located after extensive searches.
We therefore could not review Aldrich’s employment application and any notes that were added to Aldrich’s 2010 file
by Human Resources.

This is damning. Again, they are hiding something.
- Tanuki

They probably don't have any of those emails on the server after they leave the company. Times are changing and back then I.T. was not as strong as it is today to place things into the cloud to avoid using space. So they are probably right. Maybe they have switched email hosting services and they didn't keep a backlog of everything from then. We don't know, but again, I.T. has come a long way since 2010, so they may not have had the ability to collect those emails at the time.

6:00 P.M. Eastern on TSN Sportscenter - John Doe is coming on with Rick Westhead to reveal his identity and take questions.

I guess the name has been revealed, I will wait to watch until then.
- RickJ

What would be awesome is if he agreed to give all his share of his settlement to victim organizations.

What would be awesome is if he agreed to give all his share of his settlement to victim organizations.
- mohel

I thought it hasn't been settled yet, that they hope to come to an agreement.

They probably don't have any of those emails on the server after they leave the company. Times are changing and back then I.T. was not as strong as it is today to place things into the cloud to avoid using space. So they are probably right. Maybe they have switched email hosting services and they didn't keep a backlog of everything from then. We don't know, but again, I.T. has come a long way since 2010, so they may not have had the ability to collect those emails at the time.
- Hawk4life

Most regulations state 3-7 years. EEOC actually says 1 year. DOn't doubt they are burying stuff, but its well past the 7 years by the time the case was filed.

It is not erased forever unless the server was bleachbited, those records even if not "retained" can still be recovered. I learned that when my company got a subpoena and someone's e-mail said someone was an idiot. Well the plaintiff's attorneys were able to recover it. We had a seminar in what you could and could not write in an e-mail.
- LAHawk

I agree with you - 100% The fact that the plaintiff's attorney mentioned what the hawks did to her investigation on public airwaves has got to be a warning shot...

To the game tonight, I hope the team puts in a 100% effort, no matter what the score. Who is going to be the third A tonight after ADB and Murphy?

It is not erased forever unless the server was bleachbited, those records even if not "retained" can still be recovered. I learned that when my company got a subpoena and someone's e-mail said someone was an idiot. Well the plaintiff's attorneys were able to recover it. We had a seminar in what you could and could not write in an e-mail.
- LAHawk

It depends on what their I.T. did or does with past history. Maybe I.T. eliminated the history on the servers to cut down on space since companies charge for space now days on their servers. I moved email servers last year and I imagine I couldn't go and get some of the stuff from my old server hosting company for emails because they eliminate the data. It is usually up to said company to collect and retain their history and information, but then again, there are also privacy laws against saving identifable information to keep from companies being hacked and dark web unethical hackers stealing information to sell it. So again, it is going to be dependent on what Chicagos rules are on collecting and saving history.

They probably don't have any of those emails on the server after they leave the company. Times are changing and back then I.T. was not as strong as it is today to place things into the cloud to avoid using space. So they are probably right. Maybe they have switched email hosting services and they didn't keep a backlog of everything from then. We don't know, but again, I.T. has come a long way since 2010, so they may not have had the ability to collect those emails at the time.
- Hawk4life

I get that. However, since McD left last year, there has to be something - even if not case related.

So why say his name? your personal satisfaction?
- LAHawk

Doesn't matter much now. I didn't name him and wouldn't. But now that he's going on TV, the damage is pretty small.

Doesn't matter much now. I didn't name him and wouldn't. But now that he's going on TV, the damage is pretty small.
- mohel

Yes, after he identifies himself we will all be saying his name. Probably why the investigator said what he said, with the approval of John Doe, knowing John Doe was going to reveal himself shortly after the findings were made public.

I get that. However, since McD left last year, there has to be something - even if not case related.
- Tanuki

The thing is, whether emails exist or not, you would have to subpoena a specific email, topic and time frame. They can't just blanket say "give me all the email ever for so-and-so" and then go on a hunting expedition to find something, and anything not case related is not relevant to the case.

I think that this is far from over and may go even higher. From pages 10 and 11 in the report:

* until recently, it was the Blackhawks’ general practice to not retain email data for individuals after their employment with the Blackhawks ended.

I believe this is total BS. IRS law requires at 3 - 7 years of retention and claiming "company policy" is also BS. McDouchebag left only last year, so there has to be something. Companies tend to retain executive's email over a longer period to protect themselves. On top of all that, the lawyer for the two players was on the radio today and she said that the hawks refused to let them do discovery and talk to employees. They are hiding something.

* Brad Aldrich’s 2010 personnel file could not be located after extensive searches.
We therefore could not review Aldrich’s employment application and any notes that were added to Aldrich’s 2010 file
by Human Resources.

This is damning. Again, they are hiding something.
- Tanuki

Could they be protecting the owner?

Yes, after he identifies himself we will all be saying his name. Probably why the investigator said what he said, with the approval of John Doe, knowing John Doe was going to reveal himself shortly after the findings were made public.
- LAHawk

THEN we can all talk about what a poopty draft pick he was and how his scouting reports foretold he would be a bust and it was another Stan fail

I thought it hasn't been settled yet, that they hope to come to an agreement.
- LAHawk

That's my understanding, too. But he can say his share of whatever settlement he gets will go to help victims. Maybe he can give it all to the other John Doe.