Whatever the issue is with Panarin, it’s been going on since the leave of absence he took last year. Looking at him on the bench after a shift, he looks winded as though he may not be in the greatest shape.

Question. Why weren’t the Rangers interested in Sam Bennet?

Whatever the issue is with Panarin, it’s been going on since the leave of absence he took last year. Looking at him on the bench after a shift, he looks winded as though he may not be in the greatest shape.

Question. Why weren’t the Rangers interested in Sam Bennet?
- OLDSCHOOL#6

To me Sam Bennett is alot like Gaut, but at center. Everyone says how much potential he has, but he's 25 and has done almost squadoosh in his career. At some point he kind of is what he is.

I know on this board I've included Chytil in a bunch of trades for other centers, but why do we look at all the teams and try to pick out the mid 20s centers who "might" break out, when we literally have an early 20s center who might break out on our own roster?

They either didn’t give a shyt, or didn’t believe him. Knowing the hockey mentality, Quenneville probably wondered why he just didn’t beat the crap out of him. Times have changed.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Unfortunately, the fact is that he was a young vulnerable player that was threatened with physical harm (literally with a novelty bat) and career destruction if he refused Aldrich's advances. It's in horrible detail in the lawyers report I wish I never read.

There's a reason why he targeted black aces/an intern and eventually a 16 year old. They offered almost zero resistance due to what they felt was a tenuous spot in their respective roles.

These players/people believed that Aldrich had a ton of power and could ruin them if they didn't comply.

Kings lost two top 4 dmen, one for the season and doughty is out 8 weeks.

What could we get for Kravtsov and Jones from LA I know they have center prospects
- Slimtj100

Kings probably want the Rangers to take back Lias

Kings probably want the Rangers to take back Lias
- dashripdot

I'm not sure what the Kings are doing anymore. People have made fun of us for just getting guying trying to plug holes on a sinking ship over the years, but the Kings are taking it to the extreme. Why did they sign Danault?

Chytil man. See previous post

Chytil for Towes + half retained? So now we only have to clear about 2.5ish if it’s Toews
- Slimtj100

What no 6th rounder too??

What no 6th rounder too??


- Brukie

No 6th needed, the Hawks are dying to trade what will likely be a 1st ballot HoF that led them to 3 cups and still can avg almost a ppg. They should be sending us back picks.

To me Sam Bennett is alot like Gaut, but at center. Everyone says how much potential he has, but he's 25 and has done almost squadoosh in his career. At some point he kind of is what he is.

I know on this board I've included Chytil in a bunch of trades for other centers, but why do we look at all the teams and try to pick out the mid 20s centers who "might" break out, when we literally have an early 20s center who might break out on our own roster?
- 2sticks1puck

Chytil is not a center. He may eventually become a decent winger, not a center.

To me Sam Bennett is alot like Gaut, but at center. Everyone says how much potential he has, but he's 25 and has done almost squadoosh in his career. At some point he kind of is what he is.

I know on this board I've included Chytil in a bunch of trades for other centers, but why do we look at all the teams and try to pick out the mid 20s centers who "might" break out, when we literally have an early 20s center who might break out on our own roster?
- 2sticks1puck

Chytil is not a center. He may eventually become a decent winger, not a center.

No 6th needed, the Hawks are dying to trade what will likely be a 1st ballot HoF that led them to 3 cups and still can avg almost a ppg. They should be sending us back picks.
- 2sticks1puck

True, nobody would want him and nobody will come up with a better package, they should throw in a second rounder to us also just because the Rangers are allowing the Hawks to pay him that 5 million.

Chytil is not a center. He may eventually become a decent winger, not a center.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I'm not convinced center is his best position either, but it's still very early. The fact that he's shown chemistry with the guy who we drafted #1 OV and a player that our coach clearly likes in Blais works in Chytil's favor.

Bennett looks like he might be breaking out in Florida, but only based on his time in Calgary, there really wasn't anything there to suggest he'd be an upgrade to Chytil.

I'm not convinced center is his best position either, but it's still very early. The fact that he's shown chemistry with the guy who we drafted #1 OV and a player that our coach clearly likes in Blais works in Chytil's favor.

Bennett looks like he might be breaking out in Florida, but only based on his time in Calgary, there really wasn't anything there to suggest he'd be an upgrade to Chytil.
- 2sticks1puck

I guess I'm referring to the notion that Gallant eants to play north/South. Banner does, Chytil does not.

What no 6th rounder too??


- Brukie

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No 6th needed, the Hawks are dying to trade what will likely be a 1st ballot HoF that led them to 3 cups and still can avg almost a ppg. They should be sending us back picks.
- 2sticks1puck

To be clear, the ONLY way I trade for Toews is if they retain 50%. It’s the only way it would work for us. And Kravtsov has to be the guy going to the Hawks

But what with is going on now, I don’t think it’s a wise move any longer lol. He basically stated publicly how much Bowman and Macissac have helped throughout his career. Defending them essentially. That no bueno. If you feel that way you keep it to yourself. Rangers don’t need any bad PR, and anyone associated with that team is tainted forever imo

Apparently Beach was bullied by some of his teammates back then with derogatory stuff. Sopel and Boynton have both backed that fact up, as Beach stated. As captain he needed to do more for Beach and he didn’t

To be clear, the ONLY way I trade for Toews is if they retain 50%. It’s the only way it would work for us. And Kravtsov has to be the guy going to the Hawks

But what with is going on now, I don’t think it’s a wise move any longer lol. He basically stated publicly how much Bowman and Macissac have helped throughout his career. Defending them essentially. That no bueno. If you feel that way you keep it to yourself. Rangers don’t need any bad PR, and anyone associated with that team is tainted forever imo

Apparently Beach was bullied by some of his teammates back then with derogatory stuff. Sopel and Boynton have both backed that fact up, as Beach stated. As captain he needed to do more for Beach and he didn’t
- Slimtj100

Captain Coverup would look great in a Rangers jersey

Captain Coverup would look great in a Rangers jersey
- eichiefs9

Kane was accused of stuff (assault) in Buffalo wasn’t he? I think it was in Buffalo. He’s another that probably dropped the ball

To be clear, the ONLY way I trade for Toews is if they retain 50%. It’s the only way it would work for us. And Kravtsov has to be the guy going to the Hawks

But what with is going on now, I don’t think it’s a wise move any longer lol. He basically stated publicly how much Bowman and Macissac have helped throughout his career. Defending them essentially. That no bueno. If you feel that way you keep it to yourself. Rangers don’t need any bad PR, and anyone associated with that team is tainted forever imo

Apparently Beach was bullied by some of his teammates back then with derogatory stuff. Sopel and Boynton have both backed that fact up, as Beach stated. As captain he needed to do more for Beach and he didn’t
- Slimtj100

Cap issues aside, the idea of trading for Toews isn't bad. The thing is though, Chicago would want the world for him whether they retain or not. He still is about a ppg player, this isn't someone injury prone like Malkin, or someone who is showing signs of being washed. What do you think Joe Thornton would have been worth 10 years younger? (Toews is still somehow only 33). That would be a starting point.

To be clear, the ONLY way I trade for Toews is if they retain 50%. It’s the only way it would work for us. And Kravtsov has to be the guy going to the Hawks

But what with is going on now, I don’t think it’s a wise move any longer lol. He basically stated publicly how much Bowman and Macissac have helped throughout his career. Defending them essentially. That no bueno. If you feel that way you keep it to yourself. Rangers don’t need any bad PR, and anyone associated with that team is tainted forever imo

Apparently Beach was bullied by some of his teammates back then with derogatory stuff. Sopel and Boynton have both backed that fact up, as Beach stated. As captain he needed to do more for Beach and he didn’t
- Slimtj100

Both Kane and Toews claim that they were not fully aware of the situation until the following season. It is possible that some members of the team had less exposure to what happened or simply tried to ignore it. Either way it looks bad given what Sopel and Boynton are saying.

But remember, Beach was never a full member of the team during regular season or playoffs. It's possible that the story was more rampant between the "black aces" and other players that he would have more commonly been practicing/playing with. It looks like Boynton may have been with him in Rockford. Sopel's time with the team ended after the Stanley cup season so his account would have been during the actual time it happened.

Either way Toews likely had to have known. But he was also only like 23-24 at the time, same with Kane. Hard to know exactly what went down in that locker room or who is at fault. It would be super poopty to hear that Toews or Kane was in on the bashing though.

Captain Coverup would look great in a Rangers jersey
- eichiefs9

Yeah, not so sure about this idea anymore.

Kane was accused of stuff (assault) in Buffalo wasn’t he? I think it was in Buffalo. He’s another that probably dropped the ball
- Slimtj100

There's another Kane running around in the NHL. Perhaps you are thinking of that one?

Both Kane and Toews claim that they were not fully aware of the situation until the following season. It is possible that some members of the team had less exposure to what happened or simply tried to ignore it. Either way it looks bad given what Sopel and Boynton are saying.

But remember, Beach was never a full member of the team during regular season or playoffs. It's possible that the story was more rampant between the "black aces" and other players that he would have more commonly been practicing/playing with. It looks like Boynton may have been with him in Rockford. Sopel's time with the team ended after the Stanley cup season so his account would have been during the actual time it happened.

Either way Toews likely had to have known. But he was also only like 23-24 at the time, same with Kane. Hard to know exactly what went down in that locker room or who is at fault. It would be super poopty to hear that Toews or Kane was in on the bashing though.
- JRR1285

Him kind of defending two of the cover-uppers (new word haha) is a terrible look.

There's another Kane running around in the NHL. Perhaps you are thinking of that one?
- mames11

No. Long time ago. Patrick, was not on the Sabres, but he may have lived there? I can’t remember the circumstances of it all. I just recall something like that with Patrick Kane in some trouble legally. It obviously didn’t amount to anything

Edit: here’s the story.

https://www.chicagotribun...story.html?outputType=amp

Him kind of defending two of the cover-uppers (new word haha) is a terrible look.
- Slimtj100

Yeah, I just read what he said after saying decent things about the situation. No need to defend them like you said. Keep that poop buried, there's never going to be a right time to laud two men who were complicit in what happened, regardless of what he believes.

Yeah, I just read what he said after saying decent things about the situation. No need to defend them like you said. Keep that poop buried, there's never going to be a right time to laud two men who were complicit in what happened, regardless of what he believes.
- JRR1285

I would understand him saying it back then, but now? Cmon Johnathen.

There's another Kane running around in the NHL. Perhaps you are thinking of that one?
- mames11

No, it was Patty Kane being accused of rape at one point during the offseason of 2015.