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TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
What did he do to deserve that? Completely asinine.
- Fenrir


That signing has been rough so far. I would have preferred Brendan Smith for another year but they tried to get cute. Hopefully he changes my mind like Goodrow is finally starting to do.

Worse case, should be trade-able if needed.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
What did he do to deserve that? Completely asinine.
- Fenrir

Well, it still leaves 23 teams to trade with. And, I assume without that clause, his AAV would've been higher.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
That signing has been rough so far. I would have preferred Brendan Smith for another year but they tried to get cute. Hopefully he changes my mind like Goodrow is finally starting to do.

Worse case, should be trade-able if needed.

- TC88


Smith at 1 season for $800k would've been fine in that role. I don't want to talk about it
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
Smith at 1 season for $800k would've been fine in that role. I don't want to talk about it
- picklerick


$1.7M bonus for speaking Swedish?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:05 PM ET
$1.7M bonus for speaking Swedish?
- Tonybere

Nils had a lot to do with that signing. But still we gotta give that pair sometime too.

The thing with Nemeth now is, he will never be a fan favorite because of one horrendous giveaway vs Calgary in an October game. His Rangers career is now defined as awful by that one play. Because our fans suuuuuuck

tell me I’m wrong
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:07 PM ET
Nils had a lot to do with that signing. But still we gotta give that pair sometime too.

The thing with Nemeth now is, he will never be a fan favorite because of one horrendous giveaway vs Calgary in an October game. His Rangers career is now defined as awful by that one play

tell me I’m wrong

- Slimtj100


i'll say you're wrong because i've called out his terrible breakout passes before last game. That wasn't the first one, just the first one that directly resulted in a goal
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
i'll say you're wrong because i've called out his terrible breakout passes before last game. That wasn't the first one, just the first one that directly resulted in a goal
- picklerick

I’ll be sure to point out when he’s good
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
I’ll be sure to point out when he’s good
- Slimtj100


he's the type who's good when we don't have to mention his name
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:18 PM ET
he's the type who's good when we don't have to mention his name
- picklerick

Yea exactly. One mistake and forget it. That’s my point tho. Give him a chance too, before he’s labeled the next Malik, Poti, Hamrlik, Holden, etc. He’s a Ranger for all of two weeks haha

The other night he was just one example of everyone collectively sucking on the back end, on the same night

picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
Yea exactly. One mistake and forget it. That’s my point tho. Give him a chance too, before he’s labeled the next Malik, Poti, Hamrlik, Holden, etc. He’s a Ranger for all of two weeks haha
- Slimtj100


it's more about him being a $2.5m over 3 years obstacle for Jones and Robertson
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:24 PM ET
it's more about him being a $2.5m over 3 years obstacle for Jones and Robertson
- picklerick

He could easily slide into the 7th D role next year tho (Replacing tinordi)

And not for nothing. A Nils - Zac Jones pair is a recipe for disaster. Are they even 11 ft tall combined? Lol

Jones isn’t long for the Rangers org, he would part of a trade of some sort down the road imo
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:26 PM ET
He could easily slide into the 7th D role next year tho (Replacing tinordi)

And not for nothing. A Nils - Zac pair is a recipe for disaster

- Slimtj100


Ideally your 7th D man isn't making $2.5m though. There's nothing to do about it now. i just wish we had gone a much cheaper route, like bringing back Smith
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:30 PM ET
Ideally your 7th D man isn't making $2.5m though. There's nothing to do about it now, i just wish we had gone a much cheaper route, like bringing back Smith
- picklerick

The idea was to make Nils life a little easier, with a fellow Swedish partner.

You’re proving my point lol give him more than a couple weeks man. Sheesh

Smith had been relentlessly killed too. I don’t understand Tinordi over Smith tho.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:32 PM ET
The idea was to make Nils life a little easier, with a fellow Swedish partner.

You’re proving my point lol give him more than a couple weeks man. Sheesh

Smith had been relentlessly too

- Slimtj100


$1.7m and 2 less years would be the difference
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 27 @ 2:32 PM ET
Yea exactly. One mistake and forget it. That’s my point tho. Give him a chance too, before he’s labeled the next Malik, Poti, Hamrlik, Holden, etc. He’s a Ranger for all of two weeks haha

The other night he was just one example of everyone collectively sucking on the back end, on the same night

- Slimtj100

I never really had a problem with Holden...
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
$1.7m and 2 less years would be the difference
- picklerick


So you’re not going to give him a chance then? Lol
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
I never really had a problem with Holden...
- Tonybere

There was one play I never forgave him for lol in the Ottawa series he did that snow angel thing on the crease resulting in OT loss if I recall(playoff game)
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
$1.7m and 2 less years would be the difference
- picklerick

Tinordi over Smith is your better argument imo. Tinordi is real real bad
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
So you’re not going to give him a chance then? Lol
- Slimtj100


well, like i'm saying, there really isn't much he can do outside of wildly outperforming the contract he signed (would never happen) that would make me happy with him due to the fact that his contract is prohibitive in regards to length, term, and our LD pipeline. Someone such as (but not necessarily) Smith on a 1yr deal would not be and the difference in their level of play would be negligible at an absolute minimum.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:38 PM ET
Tinordi over Smith is your better argument imo. Tinordi is real real bad
- Slimtj100


Tinordi and Smith have similar contracts so swapping one for the other wouldnt change the next 2 seasons. This isn't the hill i'm willing to die on in regards to this team and what it could have done differently but it seems like low hanging fruit.

EDIT: nevermind, tinordi is for 2 years which.. why? but it's $900k so it doesn't really matter much
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Oct 27 @ 2:43 PM ET
To troll us into talking about it
- picklerick

Yep... a bit of fun, and it worked. Lucic is not anything close to what he used to be and Flames fans are still butt-hurt on the Fox snub. Meh, we haven't had a lot of positives the last few years..
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:43 PM ET
Tinordi and Smith have similar contracts so swapping
one for the other wouldnt change the next 2 seasons. This isn't the hill i'm willing to die on in regards to this team and what it could have done differently but it seems like low hanging fruit

- picklerick

Nemeth is the problem of the day I get it. Tomorrow. The next day. The day after. We’ll be someone new

Again, in two weeks you’ve already decided he isn’t worth a dime and nothing can change your mind. It’s the epitome of my distain for Rangers fans. Perfect example.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 27 @ 2:44 PM ET
Yep... a bit of fun, and it worked. Lucic is not anything close to what he used to be and Flames fans are still butt-hurt on the Fox snub. Meh, we haven't had a lot of positives the last few years..
- geta02it

Did you happen notice how quick he was to retrieve the puck?
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
well, like i'm saying, there really isn't much he can do outside of wildly outperforming the contract he signed (would never happen) that would make me happy with him due to the fact that his contract is prohibitive in regards to length, term, and our LD pipeline. Someone such as (but not necessarily) Smith on a 1yr deal would not be and the difference in their level of play would be negligible at an absolute minimum.
- picklerick


Well said. This is my thought exactly with my original post bringing up Smith.

Absolutely willing to give Nemeth a chance though. To TJ’s point, it’s only been a few games but if he’s just here to eat minutes and mentor Nils he’s gotta protect the puck a little better.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
Nemeth is the problem of the day I get it. Tomorrow. The next day. The day after. We’ll be someone new

Again, in two weeks you’ve already decided he isn’t worth a dime and nothing can change your mind. It’s the epitome of my sustain for Rangers fans. Perfect example.

- Slimtj100


ok before we go completely off the rails again let me try this one more time. His contract is dumb and we should have signed a cheaper, shorter term option for our 3rd pairing, but it's not the biggest concern we have. It doesn't keep me up at night. How he performs doesn't really matter unless he all of a sudden becomes Victor Hedman because it's a bad contract and he's going to at best be a solid plug, which you can get for much cheaper and less term.

In summary, it's about what the 6th defenseman on your team is worth, especially on a team that is about to be up against the cap, not necessarily about the player (Nemeth in this case).

But again, there are bigger fish to fry
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