Keith HAS TO BE LYING!!!!!
- Shady1962

Of course he is. Sopel and Boynton say everyone knew.
Statements from Kane and Toews complete bullpoop as well. You can tell by body language and lack of eye contact they are lying.

Of course he is. Sopel and Boynton say everyone knew.
Statements from Kane and Teows complete bullpoop as well. You can tell by body language and lack of eye contact they are lying.
- TurdFergeson

All 3 of those guys are supposed to be great “leaders” they needed to stand up here

All 3 of those guys are supposed to be great “leaders” they needed to stand up here
- doon

Add Patrick Sharp and half a dozen other guys from that roster. Disgusting.

most hockey players are perverts. makes sense that they would enable rape culture.

Honestly! I'm embarrassed that I was born and raised In a liberal dump like Illinois, I grew up a Blackhawks fan and I Idolized Bobby Hull and then I grew up and realized he was a foul mouthed, Sexist, Wife beating drunk!!! If my memory Is correct I think my home state has put 3 or 4 sitting governors In prison In my lifetime. And the beat goes on.
- Shady1962

I don’t think being a scumbag predator is exclusive to liberals...lol

Of course he is. Sopel and Boynton say everyone knew.
Statements from Kane and Teows complete bullpoop as well. You can tell by body language and lack of eye contact they are lying.
- TurdFergeson

KAne and Toews made statements?

KAne and Toews made statements?
- HonkyTonkMan

On tv after the game tonight. Complete bullpoop. Kane says he didn’t know. Toews says he found out at training camp the following fall. Liars. The bunch of them.

So Quenneville decided to push the rape of one of his players by one of the coaching staff aside so they could best focus on the Stanley Cup finals!?! Wow. That’s deplorable. Complete lack of humanity. He just went from being one of my all time favourite coaches to now being added to the human garbage pile in my mind. He deserves to be banned from any position in any sport for the rest of his life for his negligence and failure to even try to protect those under his watch, even if it’s a one off situation. He neglected someone’s life for a championship. That’s brutal.
- Flamin_Irishmin

Rape? What actually happened between the two guys? I haven't read anything about the actual events.

Rape? What actually happened between the two guys? I haven't read anything about the actual events.
- Tweaterben

Read the report. He forced his mouth on Beaches Richard then jerked off on his back. That’s rape.

Like Ek knows what the players are saying, lol
- HonkyTonkMan

Well he probably has a sense. In the past he's said players text him with their views. This is a big story so assuming players have reached out.

these are grown men playing kids games....in their minds it's more important to carry around a trophy than help someone in need. like I said before, they are all perverts.

It’s all pretty despicable. But this isn’t new in pro or college sports unfortunately. These organizations have always been protective of athletes and coaches. It’s not just hockey. While I despise a lot of the pc crap going on these days it’s about time some of these cover ups and double standards are being addressed. All of the guys present in that meeting should be gone from hockey.
- TurdFergeson

Your correct this seems to repeat itself, let’s not forget the Sheldon Kennedy story that was a nightmare!

I don’t think being a scumbag predator is exclusive to liberals...lol
- HonkyTonkMan

The poster you responded to was just using yet any other reason to score cheap political points. It’s typical.

Bettman, Fehr and the old guard should also be gone.

They all knew and did nothing.

Surprised by how many people's response is "anyone who knew or was involved should be banned from everything forever!" The fault starts at the top. They are ultimately responsible for doing the right thing. According to the investigation, that falls on John McDonough. Anyone else who knew in management, again according to the report, pushed it up the ladder to their immediate supervisors. Should these people have done more? Yes. However, the report states that the team did not follow its own policy for sexual assault allegations. That falls ultimately on McDonough, but also on any type of HR arm of the organization. Banning anyone and everyone associated with the team at that time to the flames of hell is an overreaction. It's more important to get this information out there and setup the means to prevent this from happening again. The people that ultimately made these decisions need to bear the responsibility, but that's not as wide of a shot as most people are making it out to be.

I think the Hawks, even though way too late, finally did the right thing to remove the executive team that was around at that time. Unfortunately, outside of that, there isn't much more that can be done. You can't change the past, but you can take action to ensure that this doesn't happen again. It's much more productive to make the changes than to argue about who is most to blame. It is an embarrassing day for humankind, particularly in sports.

My two cents. There are people who disagree. We're not all going to agree on everything. However, I think we can all agree that the product on the ice still stinks after last night.

Surprised by how many people's response is "anyone who knew or was involved should be banned from everything forever!" The fault starts at the top. They are ultimately responsible for doing the right thing. According to the investigation, that falls on John McDonough. Anyone else who knew in management, again according to the report, pushed it up the ladder to their immediate supervisors. Should these people have done more? Yes. However, the report states that the team did not follow its own policy for sexual assault allegations. That falls ultimately on McDonough, but also on any type of HR arm of the organization. Banning anyone and everyone associated with the team at that time to the flames of hell is an overreaction. It's more important to get this information out there and setup the means to prevent this from happening again. The people that ultimately made these decisions need to bear the responsibility, but that's not as wide of a shot as most people are making it out to be.

I think the Hawks, even though way too late, finally did the right thing to remove the executive team that was around at that time. Unfortunately, outside of that, there isn't much more that can be done. You can't change the past, but you can take action to ensure that this doesn't happen again. It's much more productive to make the changes than to argue about who is most to blame. It is an embarrassing day for humankind, particularly in sports.

My two cents. There are people who disagree. We're not all going to agree on everything. However, I think we can all agree that the product on the ice still stinks after last night.
- pspork

The Hawks did the "right thing" because they were forced to.

They had this report for years and chose to do the wrong thing.

I hope Beach sues the Hawks for everything they have.

The Hawks did the "right thing" because they were forced to.

They had this report for years and chose to do the wrong thing.

I hope Beach sues the Hawks for everything they have.
- ImThatGuy

This report literally just came out yesterday. They had knowledge of the incident, yes. I'm confused as what you would like them to do at this point. The incident happened and it's terrible. Should they just say nothing, fire everyone, and disband the team? Or should they try to do something even if it means something very little to make the situation right and ensure it doesn't happen again?

The easy thing is to be critical of everyone and you say things like fire everyone and take the team down. It's much harder to come up with solutions to ensure this doesn't happen again. What would be the right thing to do at this point in time? I'm sure if they could change what happened, both to Beach and how they handled it, they would. In my mind, apologies, support to the victim, and changing the culture are the only things that can be done.

This report literally just came out yesterday. They had knowledge of the incident, yes. I'm confused as what you would like them to do at this point. The incident happened and it's terrible. Should they just say nothing, fire everyone, and disband the team? Or should they try to do something even if it means something very little to make the situation right and ensure it doesn't happen again?

The easy thing is to be critical of everyone and you say things like fire everyone and take the team down. It's much harder to come up with solutions to ensure this doesn't happen again. What would be the right thing to do at this point in time? I'm sure if they could change what happened, both to Beach and how they handled it, they would. In my mind, apologies, support to the victim, and changing the culture are the only things that can be done.
- pspork

"Winning the cup is more important than reporting rape"
~Coach Q

Toews, Kane, Keith all new and are denying it, no apologies, just flat out said they didn't know it happened.

Kick them out of the league, send a message.

This report literally just came out yesterday. They had knowledge of the incident, yes. I'm confused as what you would like them to do at this point. The incident happened and it's terrible. Should they just say nothing, fire everyone, and disband the team? Or should they try to do something even if it means something very little to make the situation right and ensure it doesn't happen again?

The easy thing is to be critical of everyone and you say things like fire everyone and take the team down. It's much harder to come up with solutions to ensure this doesn't happen again. What would be the right thing to do at this point in time? I'm sure if they could change what happened, both to Beach and how they handled it, they would. In my mind, apologies, support to the victim, and changing the culture are the only things that can be done.
- pspork

avery got suspended right away by the nhl for "sloppy seconds"


why was q behind the bench 30 hours after it came out?




is saying sloppy seconds more offensive then what a person hired by an nhl team did to beach ?

"Winning the cup is more important than reporting rape"
~Coach Q

Toews, Kane, Keith all new and are denying it, no apologies, just flat out said they didn't know it happened.

Kick them out of the league, send a message.
- ImThatGuy

You really shouldn't make up your own quotes. While what was in the report implies that Q's view is that, he never said what you quoted.

Again, how do you know that they knew? If you had all of this knowledge, why didn't you come forward? See how ridiculous that sounds? Circumstances of the time make it seem at least possible that they didn't know. An AHL player on the black aces may not have really discussed with the leadership in the locker room. Sounds like it took a few years to come out in Rockford. Also sounds like everyone knew the guy was a creep and it was somewhat of a joke for a bit until something like this happened and made it real.

I am with you in the anger of the situation but I don't personally believe kicking them out of the league will result in the message you are thinking of.

Of course he is. Sopel and Boynton say everyone knew.
Statements from Kane and Toews complete bullpoop as well. You can tell by body language and lack of eye contact they are lying.
- TurdFergeson

heck Dany Carcillo knew .....and was playing for the flyers at the time

You really shouldn't make up your own quotes. While what was in the report implies that Q's view is that, he never said what you quoted.

Again, how do you know that they knew? If you had all of this knowledge, why didn't you come forward? See how ridiculous that sounds? Circumstances of the time make it seem at least possible that they didn't know. An AHL player on the black aces may not have really discussed with the leadership in the locker room. Sounds like it took a few years to come out in Rockford. Also sounds like everyone knew the guy was a creep and it was somewhat of a joke for a bit until something like this happened and made it real.

I am with you in the anger of the situation but I don't personally believe kicking them out of the league will result in the message you are thinking of.
- pspork

What should be done then?

You really shouldn't make up your own quotes. While what was in the report implies that Q's view is that, he never said what you quoted.

Again, how do you know that they knew? If you had all of this knowledge, why didn't you come forward? See how ridiculous that sounds? Circumstances of the time make it seem at least possible that they didn't know. An AHL player on the black aces may not have really discussed with the leadership in the locker room. Sounds like it took a few years to come out in Rockford. Also sounds like everyone knew the guy was a creep and it was somewhat of a joke for a bit until something like this happened and made it real.

I am with you in the anger of the situation but I don't personally believe kicking them out of the league will result in the message you are thinking of.
- pspork

it's not like we are talking about sloppy seconds

You really shouldn't make up your own quotes. While what was in the report implies that Q's view is that, he never said what you quoted.

Again, how do you know that they knew? If you had all of this knowledge, why didn't you come forward? See how ridiculous that sounds? Circumstances of the time make it seem at least possible that they didn't know. An AHL player on the black aces may not have really discussed with the leadership in the locker room. Sounds like it took a few years to come out in Rockford. Also sounds like everyone knew the guy was a creep and it was somewhat of a joke for a bit until something like this happened and made it real.

I am with you in the anger of the situation but I don't personally believe kicking them out of the league will result in the message you are thinking of.
- pspork

Q brushed aside the assault allegations and confirmed they were less significant than winning.

He's a coach. Of an NHL team. In 2021. And his players' well being comes second to winning. (frank). You. Q.

You really shouldn't make up your own quotes. While what was in the report implies that Q's view is that, he never said what you quoted.

Again, how do you know that they knew? If you had all of this knowledge, why didn't you come forward? See how ridiculous that sounds? Circumstances of the time make it seem at least possible that they didn't know. An AHL player on the black aces may not have really discussed with the leadership in the locker room. Sounds like it took a few years to come out in Rockford. Also sounds like everyone knew the guy was a creep and it was somewhat of a joke for a bit until something like this happened and made it real.

I am with you in the anger of the situation but I don't personally believe kicking them out of the league will result in the message you are thinking of.
- pspork

Former Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Brent Sopel said his 2009-10 teammates should be "telling the truth publicly" about being aware of the allegations of sexual assault against then-video coach Brad Aldrich.

In an interview with TSN's Rick Westhead, the retired NHL veteran said most of the players and coaches knew during the 2010 Western Conference Final that two Blackhawks players had accused Aldrich of sexual assault.

"...I'd say pretty much every player said, 'Holy s--t' and was shocked by it," Sopel said. "We were all in the same dressing room. It was something that was discussed for at least two or three days. [Then head coach Joel] Quenneville was in the same office as [Aldrich]. We heard about it."

https://bleacherreport.co...ed-alleged-sexual-assault