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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Q meeting with Bettman tomorrow in NYC
- Stripes77


I don't see how Q or Chevy are any less complicit than Bowman. I really don't.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:51 AM ET
If I say, hey, 36, I see here you want pain pills. Sure, here's some hydros.

If I provide those pain pills without proving you need them, and it is the best course of action (probably not regardless but just for example), I could get sued for malpractice, especially if something happens to you.

These doctors will not blindly say yes. With a case this high profile and under contention, saying the wrong thing is career suicide. They need to prove their case, which I am sure they have.

- TheSabresTaco

I am not saying they haven't, but the street goes both ways
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
if either of his agents, current or former, thought eichel would have had at least a shot of winning medical arbitration it would have already happened IMO
- homiedclown


My thoughts exactly home slice 👍
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
I don't see how Q or Chevy are any less complicit than Bowman. I really don't.
- TheSabresTaco



Anyone involved has to be canned.

Is a disgrace to the sport.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
Very creative ref.

This could work, maybe he waives this July as the Ntc, punts it for 1 more season.

In season trade most definitely include some retention of salary IMO ....

which contending team would be able to eat 10 million, even prorated this season?

Vegas?

- Boss34


I really think Vegas and Calgary are the only two teams that can make this work mid-season
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
I don't see how Q or Chevy are any less complicit than Bowman. I really don't.
- TheSabresTaco



Yeah I think they both resign by the end of the week
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
This is well described taco... 🛎

How many independent doctors reports and/or "testimony " are needed to overturn the CBA?

Then, how many doctors are more respected than the #1 guy in the spine/neck field?

Just not seeing any ruling going Jack's way.

Too many hurdles, and jack eichel knows jack eichel isnt gonna win. It's a black eye on jack eichel , caused by jack eichel. Jack eichel will not like jack eichels result of the objections... IMO.

That's why they havent gone this route....

- Boss34


If that case goes to arbitration, you know his side believes there's ample evidence in support of his choice. Hence why he hasn't gone yet. I'm not sure if Dr. Cap is the "#1 guy" as much as perhaps a leading surgeon of the procedure. Semantics aside, the Sabres have the CBA on their side so the burden of proof is on Jack. How many leading ADR surgeons are required? Who knows? My guess, they need several to dispute the team's doctor, and to convince a medical board that Jack's side is correct.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
Anyone involved has to be canned.

Is a disgrace to the sport.

- DirtyDan

"I will reserve judgment on next steps, if any, with respect to them,” Bettman’s statement read"
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
Anyone involved has to be canned.

Is a disgrace to the sport.

- DirtyDan


NHL fined teh Devils 3 Mil for cap circumvention and took away draft picks.

NHL fined Chicago 2 mil for this.

{Shrugs}
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
I am not saying they haven't, but the street goes both ways
- Buff36


what do you mean?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
If that case goes to arbitration, you know his side believes there's ample evidence in support of his choice. Hence why he hasn't gone yet. I'm not sure if Dr. Cap is the "#1 guy" as much as perhaps a leading surgeon of the procedure. Semantics aside, the Sabres have the CBA on their side so the burden of proof is on Jack. How many leading ADR surgeons are required? Who knows? My guess, they need several to dispute the team's doctor, and to convince a medical board that Jack's side is correct.
- TheSabresTaco

Guess will find out soon enough if they think they have a case.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
NHL fined teh Devils 3 Mil for cap circumvention and took away draft picks.

NHL fined Chicago 2 mil for this.

{Shrugs}

- ImThatGuy


There is going to be a major lawsuit hitting the Hawks organization.

Aldrich went on to sexually assault minors after the Hawks let him go (with a letter of recommendation btw).

Had they followed through, he wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near children...

The Hawks royally messed this up, and anyone with knowledge of it is in the crosshairs.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
If that case goes to arbitration, you know his side believes there's ample evidence in support of his choice. Hence why he hasn't gone yet. I'm not sure if Dr. Cap is the "#1 guy" as much as perhaps a leading surgeon of the procedure. Semantics aside, the Sabres have the CBA on their side so the burden of proof is on Jack. How many leading ADR surgeons are required? Who knows? My guess, they need several to dispute the team's doctor, and to convince a medical board that Jack's side is correct.
- TheSabresTaco

Realistically they only need one to make a compelling enough case.


ALso, as much as Dr Capp should be respected, he works for the team.

Id be curious as to what his thoughts are if he didn't.

I should also note, i have zero trust in medical field in the US. There is a reason its constantly ranked as one of teh worst in the world.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
"I will reserve judgment on next steps, if any, with respect to them,” Bettman’s statement read"
- homiedclown



It'll be a bunch of resignations.

Names should struck from the Cup. Chicago should be fined a much higher penalty. Picks taken. The whole shebang.



TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
Anyone involved has to be canned.

Is a disgrace to the sport.

- DirtyDan


It would certainly set a strong precedence. That sexual assault and being complicit in covering it up/ignoring can't and won't be tolerated. I think league fans and media will rain hellfire on Chevy and Q if no or little action is taken.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
what do you mean?
- TheSabresTaco

I mean what you said about pills and stuff like that, because there are doctors out there that do shady stuff. And would side with Eichel even if it might not be right.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
NHL fined teh Devils 3 Mil for cap circumvention and took away draft picks.

NHL fined Chicago 2 mil for this.

{Shrugs}

- ImThatGuy

quenneville is coaching tonight, which is all you need to know
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
My thoughts exactly home slice 👍
- Boss34

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...arly-takeaways-every-team

sabres up to 19th in power rankings
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
quenneville is coaching tonight, which is all you need to know
- homiedclown



The fans won't let it slide.

March 7th Panthers are in Buffalo and I'll be the first to berate the SOB if he's still on the bench in my gad damn arena
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
quenneville is coaching tonight, which is all you need to know
- homiedclown

Isn't his meeting tomorrow
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
There is going to be a major lawsuit hitting the Hawks organization.

Aldrich went on to sexually assault minors after the Hawks let him go (with a letter of recommendation btw).

Had they followed through, he wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near children...

The Hawks royally messed this up, and anyone with knowledge of it is in the crosshairs.

- Stripes77


"In his prepared statement — neither of the Wirtzes took questions from the media — Danny Wirtz said the team was going to try to settle the lawsuits filed against it, the ones it had spent months trying to dodge. He promised real change in the organization and set the right tone."
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
Isn't his meeting tomorrow
- Buff36



Tonight's the last game of his coaching career
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
Tonight's the last game of his coaching career
- DirtyDan

Should be
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
Realistically they only need one to make a compelling enough case.


ALso, as much as Dr Capp should be respected, he works for the team.

Id be curious as to what his thoughts are if he didn't.

I should also note, i have zero trust in medical field in the US. There is a reason its constantly ranked as one of teh worst in the world.

- ImThatGuy


Again the insinuation you're making would be medical malpractice.

I am certain the team wants a resolution, but Adams is not qualified to force that decision.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
I really think Vegas and Calgary are the only two teams that can make this work mid-season
- Stripes77


Matthew tkachuk just really sticks in my head as a guy who is most likely moved soon.

Not sure if he's the type of leader the Sabres need?

He's gonna need a new expensive contract, also something I'm not interested in.

I could see a creative 3 way trade involving st. Louis or Ottawa. Where the Sabres end up with prospects and picks. Other teams get the " 2 best players "in the trade.

Both guys need a team to probably unload bad deals.
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