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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
problem is black ace aka John Doe, was outed in report by listing his age at the time....20 so it wont be hard to narrow him down quickly with past rosters, etc....

I am not touching it. I don't care who it is, and outing him does nothing at this point.

- SteveRain

You know someone will.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
problem is black ace aka John Doe, was outed in report by listing his age at the time....20 so it wont be hard to narrow him down quickly with past rosters, etc....

I am not touching it. I don't care who it is, and outing him does nothing at this point.

- SteveRain


Agreed, they all but doxxed him. A limited number of people will "just have to know" and figure it out, but if it had gone to court, a whole lot more people would know.
rtang415
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.07.2009

Oct 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Not in todays' society. I'll be shocked if either survives. Q maybe has a chance as it was pay grades above him, but still a member of his team.

Who knows...glad it's out and over with, as in no more speculation about it.

- SteveRain


Unless you took steps to let others know outside the organization you are complicit in the coverup.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
You know someone will.
- paulr


I know but it's not going to be me and anyone who does is an @sshole for doing so. Report is out....107 pages.

SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
Lastly, I'll say this....

as much poop I give this team and the Wirtz's I can say they did the right thing here. They hired an independent investigation firm, let them do their thing, report back, and made the correct decisions. Removing anyone in that room, and not fighting the law suits any longer by reaching out to settle.

They are no means perfect but how many times have we seen places dig in and cover up to hide this sort of thing? Looking directly at you, Penn State.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:44 PM ET


Sorry, StanBo - this (assuming that McD would take care of it) claim might have worked if Aldrich was not still hanging around the team and the victim for weeks after you supposedly kicked it upstairs.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Oct 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
Full report
https://t.co/51Z2y5I3CD
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
@wyshynski
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3m
Sounds like if there's a USA Hockey statement on this Stan Bowman news, it won't be until later today. Bowman is currently the GM of the US men's national team for the 2022 Olympics.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
Wonder if/when McD will have something to say?
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Oct 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
No one should take joy in Bowman being fired...er resigning. I wish it was based on performance but knowing someone suffered because of his and others inaction...very sad. I think it's the right resolution but this is nothing to celebrate.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:48 PM ET
As for the effect in Florida and WPG:

@mikeystephens81
Notably, the Blackhawks investigation reveals that Joel Quenneville & Kevin Cheveldayoff were aware of the allegations when they worked for the team.

Both have denied knowledge previously.


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Lying to the press is not a crime, so that last point is a bit moot assuming they told the truth in the depositions. Depends on how much culpability for Aldrich being allowed to remain around the team they get, I guess.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
Lastly, I'll say this....

as much poop I give this team and the Wirtz's I can say they did the right thing here. They hired an independent investigation firm, let them do their thing, report back, and made the correct decisions. Removing anyone in that room, and not fighting the law suits any longer by reaching out to settle.

They are no means perfect but how many times have we seen places dig in and cover up to hide this sort of thing? Looking directly at you, Penn State.

- SteveRain

Well said. A sad way to cap off the best period in the Blackhawk’s history.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
Wonder if/when McD will have something to say?
- scottak


Will his ego allow him to not respond to Stan's statement? His lawyers, however, are probably counseling him to shut his mouth forever on this.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
Wonder if/when McD will have something to say?
- scottak


F him....Met him on multiple occasions at season ticket holders events. I have NEVER met a more pompous wiener in my entire life....professionally and/or socially.

He deserves everything and anything thrown his way. McEgo wasn't pulled out of the sky, and I hope his mouth piece Barry Rozner, is eating a nice $hit sandwich right about now.
rtang415
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.07.2009

Oct 26 @ 2:50 PM ET


Sorry, StanBo - this (assuming that McD would take care of it) claim might have worked if Aldrich was not still hanging around the team and the victim for weeks after you supposedly kicked it upstairs.

- pdx2ord


This does not wash.
rtang415
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.07.2009

Oct 26 @ 2:51 PM ET
Wonder if/when McD will have something to say?
- scottak


If I were him I would hide. He could end up in a civil lawsuit.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:51 PM ET
Well said. A sad way to cap off the best period in the Blackhawk’s history.
- paulr



100%....very sad day as a fan....I know fully expect this blog to blow up with trolls galore and we all need to take deep breaths in responding....talking mainly to myself here......
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
There may not be fallout in Winnipeg and Florida, simply because of the fact those guys weren't the ones running the show.
- breadbag

Obviously everyone knew that the Blackhawks probably woukd admit to some degree the mishandling of the incident. Who can say if most companies/corporations would try to sweep thus under the rug if they thought the evidence was weak or non threatening. I believed from the get go that McDonough used his influence and strongly suggested to Bowman what to do. McIsaac (guessing) and McDonough both are intense money driven brand loyal type whom would look first very hard to usher out the problem and either bs or challenge the claim. In the end maybe they thought the player would be too humiliated to carry through with a lawsuit

Whether it is a hedge fund capitalist, An independent laundry cleaner shoo, or a multiple McDonald's store owner, they usually are ultra aggressive and would praticly sell their mother down the river for a profit. They won't handle a wrongdoing lawsuit properly unless scared and worried it is a daunting worse burden if they ignore it

At the end of the day we all answer to whatever belief we hold. Making lots of money and brand loyalty supeecedes often. Just the facts officer Joe Fruday would say. And the facts often ignored
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
No one should take joy in Bowman being fired...er resigning. I wish it was based on performance but knowing someone suffered because of his and others inaction...very sad. I think it's the right resolution but this is nothing to celebrate.
- NamedSources


Yep......nothing to celebrate. Somber day as a fan. Only one's celebrating are the those who were affected 10+ years ago as they finally got justice.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
100%....very sad day as a fan....I know fully expect this blog to blow up with trolls galore and we all need to take deep breaths in responding....talking mainly to myself here......
- SteveRain

Hadn’t thought of that. Yeah it’s best for all of us to try to refrain from responding.
rtang415
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.07.2009

Oct 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
100%....very sad day as a fan....I know fully expect this blog to blow up with trolls galore and we all need to take deep breaths in responding....talking mainly to myself here......
- SteveRain


Agreed Steve. Looking forward to moving on from this.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:54 PM ET
@CRoumeliotis
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1m
Gary Bettman says in statement through NHL that if Jay Blunk, Stan Bowman, John McDonough and Al MacIsaac wish to re-enter the league, it will require a meeting with the commissioner in advance of them accepting a job. #Blackhawks
rtang415
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.07.2009

Oct 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
Obviously everyone knew that the Blackhawks probably woukd admit to some degree the mishandling of the incident. Who can say if most companies/corporations would try to sweep thus under the rug if they thought the evidence was weak or non threatening. I believed from the get go that McDonough used his influence and strongly suggested to Bowman what to do. McIsaac (guessing) and McDonough both are intense money driven brand loyal type whom would look first very hard to usher out the problem and either bs or challenge the claim. In the end maybe they thought the player would be too humiliated to carry through with a lawsuit

Whether it is a hedge fund capitalist, An independent laundry cleaner shoo, or a multiple McDonald's store owner, they usually are ultra aggressive and would praticly sell their mother down the river for a profit. They won't handle a wrongdoing lawsuit properly unless scared and worried it is a daunting worse burden if they ignore it

At the end of the day we all answer to whatever belief we hold. Making lots of money and brand loyalty supeecedes often. Just the facts officer Joe Fruday would say. And the facts often ignored

- jhawk59


I can see McD being arrogant enough to think this would never come out.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:58 PM ET
@PR_NHL
The
@NHLBlackhawks
fined $2 Million for inadequate procedures and mishandling of the 2010 matter related to the conduct of former video coach Brad Aldrich. https://media.nhl.com/public/news/15337

$1M to go to survivors' organizations
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Oct 26 @ 2:59 PM ET
Bettman scheduling discussions with Q and Chevy
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