https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1453075094239121408?s=20

Does Q survive this?
- LAHawk

No him and Chevy most likely be suspended rest of the year and fined. It's unfortunate bowman and dismal from the Blackhawks organization had come at the expense of a young man and the actions of a sexual predator. Sad and disappointing day for the hawks.

Looking forward, I would like to see Kevin Weekes as VP of hockey operations or GM
- LAHawk

Agree I think he would be a good choice or lou's son from the islanders I'm which I m not mistaken is the assistant gm. So what other candidates could be considered for each role?

So, a manager at the company you work for gets work of a harrassment issue and reports it to his boss, as he should have done. Now there's a new requirement that he tells the boss "despite informing you, I'm gonna need for to handle this fast and report back to me on how it was handled". Seems crazy to me.
- mohel

Actually ten years ago at the company I was employed at we had meetings explaining how we were to report any harassment, bullying or verbal abuse to our direct supervisor or manager who in turn was to report it upwards. It was the responsibility of the person reporting it to follow up. This was done because his immediate supervisor was to email HR and the executive committee and Cc: the person who reported it to him. If the initial person did not receive this email it was his/her responsibility to directly report the issue to HR and the executive. We were told it’s everyone’s responsibility to follow it through and ensure the issue isn’t “forgotten “.

No him and Chevy most likely be suspended rest of the year and fined. It's unfortunate bowman and dismal from the Blackhawks organization had come at the expense of a young man and the actions of a sexual predator. Sad and disappointing day for the hawks.
- Scott1977

IDK about that. Based on that performance review, sounds like Q would have had no problem having him as video coach again, despite what he knew.

A quote from one of America’s best song writers…

“My daddy told me, I believe he told me true, that the right thing’s always the hardest thing to do…”

It’s absolutely easier for us to say it, than for Stan to do it, but it’s high time we all start demanding more, especially from those in positions of power.

Here’s another quote, Canadian this time…

“And the men who hold high places must be the ones who start…”
- Ogilthorpe2

To build a new reality …

This isn’t the first time you’ve quoted them. You sound as if you’re as big a fan as I am.

I heard Boyle on the radio....he gave out 2 names

Jim Rutherford
or
Marian Hossa

They need a fresh set of eyes on this team and job has to be intriguing as you can bring in your entire staff and easily replace a coach who has only this job as his experience.

Just have to consider the negativity publicity associated with all this as a deterrent. Nobody here knows how powerful that could be.....I wouldn't expect any major moves until the season is over.
- SteveRain

Not so fast...love him, but Hossa sold us on Dano and Panik

Yes, it may have been difficult and extremely awkward for Bowman and/or Q to challenge/hype McD about the issue and pressure him to address it immediately(this may have included a threat to resign or take the issue to the police themselves)….but IMO the lesson here is that is what would have been the RIGHT thing to do. No matter how awkward. No matter the cost. Ultimately justice would have been served, and I’m sure Bowman or whoever else would have moved on and gotten paid elsewhere.

But by sticking to the “well I technically did my duty and told my supervisor, and now it’s in his hands so that’s that” mindset you’re not doing the right thing. Even if it seems like you are, in this situation(accusations of sexual assault)more should be expected and required of us as human beings. Even if it means challenging our bosses/those that write our checks.

Actually ten years ago at the company I was employed at we had meetings explaining how we were to report any harassment, bullying or verbal abuse to our direct supervisor or manager who in turn was to report it upwards. It was the responsibility of the person reporting it to follow up. This was done because his immediate supervisor was to email HR and the executive committee and Cc: the person who reported it to him. If the initial person did not receive this email it was his/her responsibility to directly report the issue to HR and the executive. We were told it’s everyone’s responsibility to follow it through and ensure the issue isn’t “forgotten “.
- paulr

That's the expectation/rule I've been used to operating under at my employers

@PR_NHL
The
@NHLBlackhawks
fined $2 Million for inadequate procedures and mishandling of the 2010 matter related to the conduct of former video coach Brad Aldrich. https://media.nhl.com/public/news/15337

$1M to go to survivors' organizations
- pdx2ord

How can they be fined? So many here said the poor person affected was an adult and the team had no responsibility in reporting it. I guess the league feels different. Don't know if the Wirtzs knew or not but I'm glad they confronted this now and came to a resolution instead of tormenting these individuals further.

How many here saying Bowman ain't going anywhere. It'll be nice another gm comes in here and they launch JC

Actually ten years ago at the company I was employed at we had meetings explaining how we were to report any harassment, bullying or verbal abuse to our direct supervisor or manager who in turn was to report it upwards. It was the responsibility of the person reporting it to follow up. This was done because his immediate supervisor was to email HR and the executive committee and Cc: the person who reported it to him. If the initial person did not receive this email it was his/her responsibility to directly report the issue to HR and the executive. We were told it’s everyone’s responsibility to follow it through and ensure the issue isn’t “forgotten “.
- paulr

The Blackhawks policy at the time of the incident was last changed in November of 2005, so it's entirely likely (if not probable) that it just needed to be "reported up the chain". In addition, the people in the meeting didn't know of any alleged assault.

All of the participants
recalled being informed that there was an incident between Aldrich and John
Doe involving an unwelcome sexual advance, but, for the most part, the
participants reported that they only learned about the incident at a high
level—that Aldrich, a coach, tried to “get under the sheets” with John Doe, a
player. Gary recalled telling everyone in the meeting what he said John Doe
told him—that Aldrich was pressuring John Doe to have sex with him and that
Aldrich told John Doe that if John Doe did not submit to Aldrich’s advances, he
could harm John Doe’s career. None of the participants recalled being told
about the type of clearly non-consensual sexual conduct that is described by
John Doe in his lawsuit or was described during John Doe’s interview with us.

I heard Boyle on the radio....he gave out 2 names

Jim Rutherford
or
Marian Hossa

They need a fresh set of eyes on this team and job has to be intriguing as you can bring in your entire staff and easily replace a coach who has only this job as his experience.

Just have to consider the negativity publicity associated with all this as a deterrent. Nobody here knows how powerful that could be.....I wouldn't expect any major moves until the season is over.
- SteveRain

Rutherford is the obvious choice. Hossa could be offered an assistant GM position, not sure you want a rookie GM at this time?

Offer GM position to Dale Hunter with the carrot of being promoted to VP if he performs well.

I appreciate you and some others defending this team and a bowman or Q but I think that time has come to an end. There is no spinning this.....yes said person was an "adult" but now reading through this thing.....there's no denying who knew what and when....and the Hawks chose to not bring a dark light on to themselves during their cup run and infancy stages of the rebuild vs morally doing what was best for the player and team long term.....tunnel vision.....and the media has every right to question the past and I am sure 19/88 will need podiums on road trips when/if they are available to media...especially Toews.....not fair on them to shoulder it all, and I am sure Keith in a Canadian market will also be poked.

It sucks....but the best way to handle this thing TODAY....I feel they did....and I hope they settle with this ex player and the hs kid, and move on. I can see Q and Chevy at best having 50/50 odds at survival....Chevy probably less due to a Canadian market.....and it sucks for a lot of these guys that John McDonough will end up being THE reason they are black balled from hockey for life...but I bet all will admit today they should have/could have done more......
- SteveRain

Not just Hockey but ANY employment. Who is gonna hire Stan now? You even gonna hire him as a staff accountant with this hanging over his head? He better hope that if he wants to work again his Notre Dame alumni network is still backing him.

Rutherford is the obvious choice. Hossa could be offered an assistant GM position, not sure you want a rookie GM at this time?

Offer GM position to Dale Hunter with the carrot of being promoted to VP if he performs well.
- paulr

Think either Bread or Boiler mentioned Bergevin. Let's wait until he's axed at that tough Montreal organization and snatch him up like Nashville did with Hynes.

Rutherford is the obvious choice. Hossa could be offered an assistant GM position, not sure you want a rookie GM at this time?

Offer GM position to Dale Hunter with the carrot of being promoted to VP if he performs well.
- paulr

I have heard great things about Hunter as a personnel guy. God knows he has demons for KO-ing Pierre Turgeon in the playoffs but at this point....I would prefer a young set of eyes vs a guy who has been recycled in the league a few times and spit out in Rutherford.

This falls directly on McD’s head.
- rtang415

Yes, everyone else is "collateral" damage. I doubt Stan would be out if they started off 6-0 and looked all world.

Please point to where in the part you quoted it says or suggests that Stan was responsible for doing the investigation.

Also, some of us have also worked for large Forune 100 companies, which have employee manuals that state specifically that the manager's responsibility is to report the issue to their boss. They do not authorize or require the manager to ensure that the rest of the company does their job. What happened to Stan was that the rules were changed after the fact. Eleven years after. That ain't right.

Was that Fortune 100 thing "womansplaining"?
- mohel

Fine.

He did the minimum required.

Makes him not legally or civilly responsible for any of it.

Also doesn’t make him a good human being.

He should have intervened forcefully when Aldrich wad allowed the celebrations weeks after the meeting - AND GOT HIS NAME ON THE CUP and had his day with the Cup.

THAT would have said that Bowman - AND Q AND the others in the meeting - we’re fulfilling their responsibilities as ethical and responsible human beings. (As for the players who knew - I wish they had spoken up more - but they weren’t in positions of power and responsibility.)

Would I have acted as I’m saying Bowman should have? I don’t know - I hope so - I think I would have, but I have not been in a situation with similar facts (the situations I was in I had authority and responsibility to make sure that action was taken, which I made sure happened.)

Not so fast...love him, but Hossa sold us on Dano and Panik

- pdx2ord

& Panarin

Yes, it may have been difficult and extremely awkward for Bowman and/or Q to challenge/hype McD about the issue and pressure him to address it immediately(this may have included a threat to resign or take the issue to the police themselves)….but IMO the lesson here is that is what would have been the RIGHT thing to do. No matter how awkward. No matter the cost. Ultimately justice would have been served, and I’m sure Bowman or whoever else would have moved on and gotten paid elsewhere.

But by sticking to the “well I technically did my duty and told my supervisor, and now it’s in his hands so that’s that” mindset you’re not doing the right thing. Even if it seems like you are, in this situation(accusations of sexual assault)more should be expected and required of us as human beings. Even if it means challenging our bosses/those that write our checks.
- SimpleJack

Agreed - there are flies buzzing all over several of the quoted SB comments on this.

I heard Boyle on the radio....he gave out 2 names

Jim Rutherford
or
Marian Hossa

They need a fresh set of eyes on this team and job has to be intriguing as you can bring in your entire staff and easily replace a coach who has only this job as his experience.

Just have to consider the negativity publicity associated with all this as a deterrent. Nobody here knows how powerful that could be.....I wouldn't expect any major moves until the season is over.
- SteveRain

Good god please not Rutherford. Guy signed Jack Johnson to a five year deal, Brandon Tanev to a six year deal, and traded FOR Mike Matheson despite him having one of the league’s worst contracts. He did it in the name of win now, but as we’ve seen of how his moves turned out, it might as well have been Suck Now.

& Panarin
- I Am The Breadman

OK, never mind, I'll take those odds

Imo I don't think Hossa coming in as coach gm etc.. would be a good look since he was on that team when incident happen. Also does investigation into what and how many players knew of this and gave denied it might be the next step. I think Also this is not over. But I m sure is not the only team sports league that this happens in. Hugh blackeye on the hawks. One last thing does the league strip the hawks of their 3 cup championships?

I appreciate you and some others defending this team and a bowman or Q but I think that time has come to an end. There is no spinning this.....yes said person was an "adult" but now reading through this thing.....there's no denying who knew what and when....and the Hawks chose to not bring a dark light on to themselves during their cup run and infancy stages of the rebuild vs morally doing what was best for the player and team long term.....tunnel vision.....and the media has every right to question the past and I am sure 19/88 will need podiums on road trips when/if they are available to media...especially Toews.....not fair on them to shoulder it all, and I am sure Keith in a Canadian market will also be poked.

It sucks....but the best way to handle this thing TODAY....I feel they did....and I hope they settle with this ex player and the hs kid, and move on. I can see Q and Chevy at best having 50/50 odds at survival....Chevy probably less due to a Canadian market.....and it sucks for a lot of these guys that John McDonough will end up being THE reason they are black balled from hockey for life...but I bet all will admit today they should have/could have done more......
- SteveRain

So, that's how it is, eh? I don't give a crap if it is Stan or you, making up the rules years later to achieve a desired outcome is wrong in my book. I am defending what I believe is right. Sorry if that bothers anyone.

Bowman is now officially out at team USA also.

Imo I don't think Hossa coming in as coach gm etc.. would be a good look since he was on that team when incident happen. Also does investigation into what and how many players knew of this and gave denied it might be the next step. I think Also this is not over. But I m sure is not the only team sports league that this happens in. Hugh blackeye on the hawks. One last thing does the league strip the hawks of their 3 cup championships?
- Scott1977

Wow.

Bowman out at USA Hockey, too

Ogi got it first...