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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:57 PM ET
Damn rights praise Q. So glad they were able to inform me I am going to get AIDS by the end of the year. That way I have some time to get my affairs in order.
- leonkennedy

That one made me chuckle.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:06 PM ET
Just heard from Q -

Remain patient. Within a few weeks Trump is going to announce a surgery for a Tampa Bay Lightning forward that will keep him out indefinitely (Until the playoffs)

As soon as he arrests the pedo’s he’s going to demand a team trade them a replacement elite level forward who will put them 25 mil over the cap come playoff time.

All will be right in the world
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:26 PM ET
Your first statement is factually incorrect. The fatality rate across all age groups is around 1.5% and borders on the statistically insignificant at younger end of the spectrum. Secondly, now that vaccines have been publicly available to everyone for over 6 months and most vulnerable age group, 65+ is nearing full vaccination status (the only age group where vaccination rates really matter based on the data), it’s no longer a public health debate.

The debate now shifts to personal choice as people now have to assume risk now that vaccines are widely available. That’s the crux of the matter. The rest of your post is just pablum.

- Sublime55


Read this - educate yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/coron...data/covidview/index.html


The debate only "shifts" in your mind.


Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:29 PM ET
What's yours, dummy? CNN or MSDNC?
No wonder you are clueless!
Praise your masters!

- StargateSG1



Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:29 PM ET
Damn rights praise Q. So glad they were able to inform me I am going to get AIDS by the end of the year. That way I have some time to get my affairs in order.
- leonkennedy



Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 24 @ 1:20 AM ET
Kinda funny since most "democrats" are pedophiles.
- StargateSG1


I can't even describe how much I appreciate these kinds of conversations on HB, they're so intellectually stimulating.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 24 @ 1:48 AM ET
I can't even describe how much I appreciate these kinds of conversations on HB, they're so intellectually stimulating.
- Pat1993


You used intellectual(ly) and HB in the same sentence.

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 24 @ 1:59 AM ET
You used intellectual(ly) and HB in the same sentence.
- Minnyhock



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yeah lol, well I just find this thread has reached a very special kind of enlightenment.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 24 @ 6:13 AM ET
Vaccinated players in the NHL are in the minority. The NHL can say what they want, 85%+ are unvaccinated.
- CGYFlames13


I have seen your posts on this thread, I must ask, because you legitimately seem to be serious about all this, have you ever asked for any help?

Sounds like you'd do well in 1930's-1940's Germany, scary

HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Oct 24 @ 7:48 AM ET
Bertuzzi the anti-vaxxer just cost the Wings two points. When will his selfishness end?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 9:19 AM ET
Kevin, this is a thoroughly dishonest take with an absolute lack of integrity. Just because he chose not to get this specific vaccination, you made a conscious decision to slander him as anti-vax, when in actuality, you have no idea. You have no idea why he chose not to. It could be he is allergic to some of the ingredients. It could be he has family who had adverse reactions to it. It may even be religious and he doesn’t want anything derived from fetal cells in his body. It’s his choice and you made the conscious decision to infer he made that decision for nefarious reasons. The fact is, he hasn’t revealed the reason behind his decision, yet you think you know, and you do not.

It amazes me how many grown adults have their feelings hurt by the medical decisions of people they don’t know and in most cases, by people they’ll never meet. His teammates are supporting his decision. His team and management are supporting his decision, yet YOU think YOU know what’s best for his health, when in truth, you know NOTHING.

- bluelineenforcer


Sounds like a typical anti-vaxxer response.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
Kevin, your point is taken and worthwhile. The world of professional sports has changed dramatically over the past several decades. Baseball, which is what I played, used to have the Reserve Clause and Curt Floods courage changed that to the Free Agency systems we see today. (Baseball back then paid Single A players $500 a month and had no idea what a Rotator Cuff was amongst other things) Now with the Bertuzzi, Price, Eichel, and other situations, we are seeing an evolution in how players will be treated in the future and what additional says they have in their own care. That's not a bad thing. Baseball has greatly evolved since I played so many decades ago to where the treatment of prospects, medically and otherwise has changed form "There are thousands of other just like you so Seeya Later Bye to the care we see today..and the evolution of medical science and their wondrous breakthroughs.

Liberals and The Media have divided the Nations with their Anti Vaxxer rhetoric. The CDC has posted on their website that taking a vaccine does not prevent one from becoming infected or infecting someone else. It is not a magic bullet. Like any other medicine, there are side effects, some of which can cause serious harm or death. One huge potential dangerous side effect is not just the vaccine itself and how it might seriously harm the body directly but also this: How might this vaccine interact with other medications or supplements that the person is taking?(Grapefruit and certain medications can cause you to become very ill or die as an example) I can point to numerous cases where physicians had no clue how the various medications they prescribed would interact with each other and those synergies caused people to be hospitalized or die. I just had a case where a dentist prescribed an antibiotic after a root canal and crown procedure and had no clue how it interacted with the patients other medications. Said person ended up in the hospital with GI bleeding..It happens more often than you think. You have to be your own patient advocate these days and learn what questions to ask...

- hockeygm


Typical ignorant response from a Trumper.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
Read this - educate yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/coron...data/covidview/index.html


The debate only "shifts" in your mind.

- Nasty_Duck


Trumpers don’t like facts.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
I have seen your posts on this thread, I must ask, because you legitimately seem to be serious about all this, have you ever asked for any help?

Sounds like you'd do well in 1930's-1940's Germany, scary

- dmarsden2988


We are in very scary times.
dpeltsman
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2013

Oct 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
Saying liberals and democrats are truly terrible people shouldn't be seen as political. It's a fact.
- CGYFlames13


Wow I’m non biased and can give a rats ass if your conservative or liberal. Grow the duck up and stop whimpering like a pansy every chance you can about the “evil soulless Democrats” that you never met. You’re pathetic, public health should never have been a political topic or opinion of opposition. Go back to your brainwashing qanon sites and oan conspiracy nutbags. Hockey is hockey, leave your biases at the door. If you don’t understand, then my door is always open. Nothing better then smoking a cracked out calgary flaming fan. Confront me I dare you…. Duck trump, duck Biden. Duck establishmentism, duck politics clown
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
Wow I’m non biased and can give a rats ass if your conservative or liberal. Grow the duck up and stop whimpering like a pansy every chance you can about the “evil soulless Democrats” that you never met. You’re pathetic, public health should never have been a political topic or opinion of opposition. Go back to your brainwashing qanon sites and oan conspiracy nutbags. Hockey is hockey, leave your biases at the door. If you don’t understand, then my door is always open. Nothing better then smoking a cracked out calgary flaming fan. Confront me I dare you…. Duck trump, duck Biden. Duck establishmentism, duck politics clown
- dpeltsman


Those evil soulless democrats who want to make sure everyone has healthcare and quality education. THOSE EVIL (frank)S!
Theathletic is for libs
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.27.2020

Oct 24 @ 10:05 AM ET
All about the team got most of those same players severe concussion issues. Bleh. Only players can decide their health choices
dpeltsman
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
Those evil soulless democrats who want to make sure everyone has healthcare and quality education. THOSE EVIL (frank)S!
- Rinosaur


That wasn’t me picking a side man, I’m here for hockey. I have most of my family as trumpies and they have all been vaccinated. I guess that just makes them rinos who are actually soulless evil leftists. Calgary sucks and I’m still issuing my invitation for you clown. It’s not a debate you need, it’s a bump on your head by a jack hammer
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
Why in the (frank) is there such a politically charged article on the main screen? Tanner made some politically charged comments and got fired for it. This is a totally politically charged topic, let alone a comment. Headline thru story.... charged. (frank) ek and Allen for posting this poop!
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
Why in the (frank) is there such a politically charged article on the main screen? Tanner made some politically charged comments and got fired for it. This is a totally politically charged topic, let alone a comment. Headline thru story.... charged. (frank) ek and Allen for posting this poop!
- wreckage



Oh, and (frank) that cgyflames13 guy. I would like to meet him in the streets one day with his attitude. Come to Calgary any day dude.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
whether you're in favor of the vaccine or not I find it amusing that people continue arguing relentlessly here with each other, as if anyone from either side will ever change their mind.
dpeltsman
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
A man is stranded in the ocean.
And he begins praying to God. "Dear god, please, surely you will save me."

A couple minutes later, a boat comes by. "Hey buddy, do you need a ride or something?"

The man responds "No, no, I'm waiting for our holy lord to save me, but thank you."

Another boat comes driving up. This one from the coast guard. "Hey, are you ok out here? We can boat you back into shore."

To which the man responds "No thank you, I am waiting for our holy father to save me from this dilemma."

The coast guard cruises away. Then, a man in a rowboat comes rowing up. He says "Hey, I was out fishing, when I noticed you look a little stranded. Need a hand?"

The man replies, almost annoyed, "No, I do not need help. God almighty will save me from this predicament."

The boater rows away.

After a while, the man gets frustrated that he had no been saved. "God, why have you not saved me? I have waited and waited, but still nothing."

To which God replies "Well, I sent three boats your way, but you didn't use any of them."

-FOR MY NEW FAVORITE TROLL, CALGARY FAN IM STILL WAITING FOR YOU…
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
It sure sounds like those who are unvaccinated are living in fear. Worrying about all your freedoms being taken away, the big bad pharma bros coming for you and giving you aids, and the crazy corruption that is stopping you from becoming a millionaire…
- louis8973



😂😂. It seems that people who haven’t taken vaccine are living exactly the same as they did their whole life while you guys are going on vaccine number 4, wearing double masks and hiding in your basements…
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:28 AM ET
If you are not vaccinated I do not want to attend events with you. I don't want to meet you socially and I don't want you going into the same restaurants that I choose.

I am happy to give you first choice.

You are free to choose whatever you want. But, so am I. And, if you choose not to be vaccinated I am free to insist that I will not be present under the same roof as you.

- spatso



Now this is the scared person. 😂😂. Triple vaccinated and still afraid to be out in public
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:29 AM ET
A man is stranded in the ocean.
And he begins praying to God. "Dear god, please, surely you will save me."

A couple minutes later, a boat comes by. "Hey buddy, do you need a ride or something?"

The man responds "No, no, I'm waiting for our holy lord to save me, but thank you."

Another boat comes driving up. This one from the coast guard. "Hey, are you ok out here? We can boat you back into shore."

To which the man responds "No thank you, I am waiting for our holy father to save me from this dilemma."

The coast guard cruises away. Then, a man in a rowboat comes rowing up. He says "Hey, I was out fishing, when I noticed you look a little stranded. Need a hand?"

The man replies, almost annoyed, "No, I do not need help. God almighty will save me from this predicament."

The boater rows away.

After a while, the man gets frustrated that he had no been saved. "God, why have you not saved me? I have waited and waited, but still nothing."

To which God replies "Well, I sent three boats your way, but you didn't use any of them."

-FOR MY NEW FAVORITE TROLL, CALGARY FAN IM STILL WAITING FOR YOU…

- dpeltsman


He's not a troll. He's just ignorant and stupid.
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