As long as they have JC teaching them the "right way to win" and he says they're progressing, why not believe him?

After all, his resume as both a player and coach speaks for itself.

The numbers could be misleading. The last two games the teams built 3 goal leads and then went into a very defensive posture.
- Ztra

I responded to you about this at the end of the last blog - which you either didn’t read (which is fine) or failed to comprehend.

The last two games, the oppo built multi-goal leads in the third period. Looking at the naturalstateicks stats and heat charts after the first and second periods of each game, they show stats decidedly favoring the Hawks, and heat charts showing NYI and Van SATs consistently from the top is or above the circles.

I’ll give you “score adjusted” stats for the third periods - not for the first two.

I hope they deal him to Toronto...just add to my disdain of the Leafs.

Sure Pierre LeBrun will mark said hypothetical trade as a "steal" for the Leafs even if they gave up multiple assets for him.
- SteveRain

Don't see strome as fit in Toronto but anything could happen what the return would be ? He did not help himself last night by taking a lazy penalty and being unnoticeable again.

This is what a rebuild looks like.

I could be wrong but I doubt Bowman ever gets fired. He is going to leave when he decides. The franchise was worth $300 million when he started and it is worth over $1 billion now. There are 3 banners in the rafters and the big picture here is awesome. Biggest turnaound in sports history.

The Wirtz family owns things for 100 years and my guess is they figure they are in year 5 of a 10 year rebuild and they would rather let the guy they know brings them Cups take a shot over some retread or junior GM who could easily backfire.

Some of you are old enough to remember another Chicago team that won and won and won but the GM was treated as a joke and routinely made fun of. Even the players publictly blasted him. However, since he left, the team has been circling the toilet and none of the players ever won again.

Sad to see people calling for a veteran coach who is going to try to win 1-0. Not only is it boring to watch but will coach all of the creativity out of the players so when the time comes to contend they will not have the extra gear for the offense needed to win the Cup.

As for the poster calling for the Hunters to take over, they are notorious cheaters in Juniors. This is the NHL. Can't pay players under the table here. Hunter showed he could not coach in the NHL and why would anyone want those guys here?

Sorry PE, no way in hell are any of them doing that intentionally. If the vets on this Team like Kane and Toews want JC fired all they need to do is go to management and say get this fool out of here.
- TheTrob

Maybe they did go to management and told them that, and management is sticking to their guns. We don't know what is going on, but I find it hard to believe players just forget how to play for no reason. Maybe the players know that losing games is the only way management will "listen", so they are making sure they lose games. Maybe they do not respect Marc Crawford (like some of us fans don't). Remember, the players get paid win or lose.

I hope they deal him to Toronto...just add to my disdain of the Leafs.

Sure Pierre LeBrun will mark said hypothetical trade as a "steal" for the Leafs even if they gave up multiple assets for him.
- SteveRain

Don't see strome as fit in Toronto but anything could happen what the return would be ? He did not help himself last night by taking a lazy penalty and being unnoticeable again.

This is what a rebuild looks like.

I could be wrong but I doubt Bowman ever gets fired. He is going to leave when he decides. The franchise was worth $300 million when he started and it is worth over $1 billion now. There are 3 banners in the rafters and the big picture here is awesome. Biggest turnaound in sports history.

The Wirtz family owns things for 100 years and my guess is they figure they are in year 5 of a 10 year rebuild and they would rather let the guy they know brings them Cups take a shot over some retread or junior GM who could easily backfire.

Some of you are old enough to remember another Chicago team that won and won and won but the GM was treated as a joke and routinely made fun of. Even the players publictly blasted him. However, since he left, the team has been circling the toilet and none of the players ever won again.

Sad to see people calling for a veteran coach who is going to try to win 1-0. Not only is it boring to watch but will coach all of the creativity out of the players so when the time comes to contend they will not have the extra gear for the offense needed to win the Cup.

As for the poster calling for the Hunters to take over, they are notorious cheaters in Juniors. This is the NHL. Can't pay players under the table here. Hunter showed he could not coach in the NHL and why would anyone want those guys here?

This is what a rebuild looks like.

I could be wrong but I doubt Bowman ever gets fired. He is going to leave when he decides. The franchise was worth $300 million when he started and it is worth over $1 billion now. There are 3 banners in the rafters and the big picture here is awesome. Biggest turnaound in sports history.

The Wirtz family owns things for 100 years and my guess is they figure they are in year 5 of a 10 year rebuild and they would rather let the guy they know brings them Cups take a shot over some retread or junior GM who could easily backfire.

Some of you are old enough to remember another Chicago team that won and won and won but the GM was treated as a joke and routinely made fun of. Even the players publictly blasted him. However, since he left, the team has been circling the toilet and none of the players ever won again.

Sad to see people calling for a veteran coach who is going to try to win 1-0. Not only is it boring to watch but will coach all of the creativity out of the players so when the time comes to contend they will not have the extra gear for the offense needed to win the Cup.

As for the poster calling for the Hunters to take over, they are notorious cheaters in Juniors. This is the NHL. Can't pay players under the table here. Hunter showed he could not coach in the NHL and why would anyone want those guys here?
- stevefrmglencoe

Steven, I think everything you typed is correct.

Maybe they did go to management and told them that, and management is sticking to their guns. We don't know what is going on, but I find it hard to believe players just forget how to play for no reason. Maybe the players know that losing games is the only way management will "listen", so they are making sure they lose games. Maybe they do not respect Marc Crawford (like some of us fans don't). Remember, the players get paid win or lose.
- powerenforcer

Your funny, you're funny, you are funny. We never really landed on the moon either it was all a conspiracy.

I don't and is not a concern of mine. Why do you participate in this blog if you never listen to what anyone says?
- LAHawk

I started watching him a few days ago as he mindlessly posts nonsense. It’s become obvious he has no idea what he’s talking about and he really doesn’t understand the game. Last year it was Murphy sucks! Murphy sucks! Murphy sucks! And this year it’s JC has no structure, house, house house, JC has no structure, house, house house, JC has no structure, house, house house. He’s best off left alone to post his inane ramblings in his own little world.

This is what a rebuild looks like.

I could be wrong but I doubt Bowman ever gets fired. He is going to leave when he decides. The franchise was worth $300 million when he started and it is worth over $1 billion now. There are 3 banners in the rafters and the big picture here is awesome. Biggest turnaound in sports history.

The Wirtz family owns things for 100 years and my guess is they figure they are in year 5 of a 10 year rebuild and they would rather let the guy they know brings them Cups take a shot over some retread or junior GM who could easily backfire.

Some of you are old enough to remember another Chicago team that won and won and won but the GM was treated as a joke and routinely made fun of. Even the players publictly blasted him. However, since he left, the team has been circling the toilet and none of the players ever won again.

Sad to see people calling for a veteran coach who is going to try to win 1-0. Not only is it boring to watch but will coach all of the creativity out of the players so when the time comes to contend they will not have the extra gear for the offense needed to win the Cup.

As for the poster calling for the Hunters to take over, they are notorious cheaters in Juniors. This is the NHL. Can't pay players under the table here. Hunter showed he could not coach in the NHL and why would anyone want those guys here?
- stevefrmglencoe

Will not dispute this statement even a smidgen.
Will add the single most important, yet often overlooked factor, is the salary cap simply didn't rise near as much as anticipated, and this stymied the Blackhawks big time.
After 61 years on this planet, no way in hades I'm walking away from the Blackhawks after the 3 Cups in 5 years not so long ago.

Well the irony is hearing JC in the presser talk about how you can't give up a goal that easily, the 2nd goal against, yet he continues to play this moronic system where 3 guys go to the boards, Toews follows Hughes along the blue line, 19s stick is no where near the shooting lane, There is no kind of defensive pressure on the puck because its at center ice, then you have deHaan not taking away the stick of the guy who's in front of the net? These are all coaching points, if you give up 4 points a game you can't win in this league, but you're just stuck on offense, what are you JCs cousin
- BetweenTheDots


I said he should be fired, or did I type that in a language that you do not understand. So if Toews stick is no where near the shooting lane, Is that a system problem, or a mistake by the Hawk player, because you are insinuating that he was in position to get his stick in the shooting lane. Same with deHaan's stick. Yes they are coaching points, but probably more so execution by the players failure.
- LAHawk

So you are going to make this argument, yes fire the coach and yes the problem is the players aren't executing? Well no poop. Okay then cover all your bases, while I'm making the argument the coach is not putting his players in position to succeed. Like when i made the argument about protecting the house and you countered with I'd own center ice on you,

I believe with a coach who knows what they are doing this could be a better team and you are saying doesn't matter who the next coach is. That's what I'm taking from all this.

I started watching him a few days ago as he mindlessly posts nonsense. It’s become obvious he has no idea what he’s talking about and he really doesn’t understand the game. Last year it was Murphy sucks! Murphy sucks! Murphy sucks! And this year it’s JC has no structure, house, house house, JC has no structure, house, house house, JC has no structure, house, house house. He’s best off left alone to post his inane ramblings in his own little world.
- paulr

Thanks Paulr, well since he admits he doesn't listen to anyone else, and he believes his opinions are facts and gospel, no sense wasting the keystrokes to engage.

So you are going to make this argument, yes fire the coach and yes the problem is the players aren't executing? Well no poop. Okay then cover all your bases, while I'm making the argument the coach is not putting his players in position to succeed. Like when i made the argument about protecting the house and you countered with I'd own center ice on you,

I believe with a coach who knows what they are doing this could be a better team and you are saying doesn't matter who the next coach is. That's what I'm taking from all this.
- BetweenTheDots

If you read my posts which you admit you don't, I am saying the coach needs to go, not because of his systems, but because I believe (I do not know) he has lost the room. I believe the players have tuned him out. I don't know why, but it does happen, even with successful coaches.

Damn, just broke my own rule,

Your funny, you're funny, you are funny. We never really landed on the moon either it was all a conspiracy.
- rpeters01

Not sure how you got to the moon from my comment, but it's your life.

Quick Poll

If there was a gun to your head and you had to say which coach was 20 games under .500 4 years into his career and which coach was 1 game under .500 4 years into his career, Al Arbour or JC. Which one would you pick?

99% of fans would say JC was 20 games under .500 but I think he is 1 game under .500 at this point.

He looked pretty good several months ago when the Hawks upset Edmonton in the bubble, a team with a veteran coach, a retread GM and a lot of top 5 overall draft picks.

I don't want to watch Marc Crawford kicking anyone on our bench. Julien seems like yesterday news. Boudreu didn't look so great without Ovi and Holtby. Some of the stories about Babcock make me uncomfortable. If I would not want a guy coaching my kid, I don't want him coaching the Hawks.

If you remember Q, he was animated on the bench but just like JC he never said a negative word about any player in the papers and was as boring, uninteresting, cliche ridden and disconnected in the post game press conference as JC.

I don't think he's going to be the coach 4 years from now when the rebuild is complete but firing him gives the young players an excuse and safety net. They may think that when things get bad, the coach takes the heat and they get to keep cashing checks as the fans blame the coach and GM for the players not getting better day after day.

Rebuilds are frustrating.

Will not dispute this statement even a smidgen.
Will add the single most important, yet often overlooked factor, is the salary cap simply didn't rise near as much as anticipated, and this stymied the Blackhawks big time.
After 61 years on this planet, no way in hades I'm walking away from the Blackhawks after the 3 Cups in 5 years not so long ago.
- 35Tony0

Thanks.

I am also amazed at how many times people said the Seabrook contract "could never be traded." "Worst contract in hockey." In a few months, at the deadline, the Hawks will trade Johnson for a couple of 2nd round picks. Seabrook will then turn into 3 2nd round picks.

Quick Poll

If there was a gun to your head and you had to say which coach was 20 games under .500 4 years into his career and which coach was 1 game under .500 4 years into his career, Al Arbour or JC. Which one would you pick?

99% of fans would say JC was 20 games under .500 but I think he is 1 game under .500 at this point.

He looked pretty good several months ago when the Hawks upset Edmonton in the bubble, a team with a veteran coach, a retread GM and a lot of top 5 overall draft picks.

I don't want to watch Marc Crawford kicking anyone on our bench. Julien seems like yesterday news. Boudreu didn't look so great without Ovi and Holtby. Some of the stories about Babcock make me uncomfortable. If I would not want a guy coaching my kid, I don't want him coaching the Hawks.

If you remember Q, he was animated on the bench but just like JC he never said a negative word about any player in the papers and was as boring, uninteresting, cliche ridden and disconnected in the post game press conference as JC.

I don't think he's going to be the coach 4 years from now when the rebuild is complete but firing him gives the young players an excuse and safety net. They may think that when things get bad, the coach takes the heat and they get to keep cashing checks as the fans blame the coach and GM for the players not getting better day after day.

Rebuilds are frustrating.
- stevefrmglencoe

Not many here would, but I would take that.

Thanks.

I am also amazed at how many times people said the Seabrook contract "could never be traded." "Worst contract in hockey." In a few months, at the deadline, the Hawks will trade Johnson for a couple of 2nd round picks. Seabrook will then turn into 3 2nd round picks.
- stevefrmglencoe

A bit overly optimistic I would say but anything is more than nothing in terms of Seabrook.

Not sure how you got to the moon from my comment, but it's your life.
- powerenforcer

Simple, the multiple conspiracy theories you proposed in your last post.

I thought when a team is rebuilding they keep their #1 draft picks and their promising defenseman?

Silly me

Not many here would, but I would take that.
- rpeters01

It would be pretty cool if he can stick it out and win.

I think he coaches a very aggresive style. He has his beliefs and he is sticking to them.

I don't understand the personal attacks on him. I know he replaced a legend but he's a 34 year old guy who has managed to make it to the pinnacle of his profession. Pretty impressive young man.

A bit overly optimistic I would say but anything is more than nothing in terms of Seabrook.
- rpeters01

They already got 1 2nd rounder and based on what rentals get at the deadline, a two time Stanley Cup winner who can play all 3 forward positions should get a couple 2nd rounders.

Thanks.

I am also amazed at how many times people said the Seabrook contract "could never be traded." "Worst contract in hockey." In a few months, at the deadline, the Hawks will trade Johnson for a couple of 2nd round picks. Seabrook will then turn into 3 2nd round picks.
- stevefrmglencoe

Tyler Johnson has cleared waivers twice in the last year or so, doubt any team will trade for him and his $5M cap hit that still has two more years to go, but I hope that you’re right.

Quick Poll

If there was a gun to your head and you had to say which coach was 20 games under .500 4 years into his career and which coach was 1 game under .500 4 years into his career, Al Arbour or JC. Which one would you pick?

99% of fans would say JC was 20 games under .500 but I think he is 1 game under .500 at this point.

He looked pretty good several months ago when the Hawks upset Edmonton in the bubble, a team with a veteran coach, a retread GM and a lot of top 5 overall draft picks.

I don't want to watch Marc Crawford kicking anyone on our bench. Julien seems like yesterday news. Boudreu didn't look so great without Ovi and Holtby. Some of the stories about Babcock make me uncomfortable. If I would not want a guy coaching my kid, I don't want him coaching the Hawks.

If you remember Q, he was animated on the bench but just like JC he never said a negative word about any player in the papers and was as boring, uninteresting, cliche ridden and disconnected in the post game press conference as JC.

I don't think he's going to be the coach 4 years from now when the rebuild is complete but firing him gives the young players an excuse and safety net. They may think that when things get bad, the coach takes the heat and they get to keep cashing checks as the fans blame the coach and GM for the players not getting better day after day.

Rebuilds are frustrating.
- stevefrmglencoe

Julien seems like yesterday’s news but he’s also won a cup, gotten the same team back to a cup, and consistently kept his teams in contention. He’s likely the most respected coach available.

Boudreau has taken many good teams and gotten them into the playoffs, his main knock is not getting into the finals with multiple good teams. I get that, but it’s a problem that requires you to get deep into the playoffs to have. Plenty of coaches have never won a playoff round, some haven’t even made the playoffs. If I had my pick I’d go with Julien, because I respected him a lot in the 2013 cup. I watched the Bruins a lot while he was the coach and he definitely got more soup out of the stone than they deserved after the Seguin debacle trade.