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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:45 PM ET
having a job is not a problem. all these guys can be let go of if they have a chance to become gm elsewhere.
- fidopro


well the question is do they want to leave, if they're happy where they are and aren't aspiring for that position in MTL (which is possible) the conversations might be rather quick.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:45 PM ET
having a job is not a problem. all these guys can be let go of if they have a chance to become gm elsewhere.
- fidopro


Especially earlier in the season, rather than going into the trade deadline or the draft / free agency.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:46 PM ET
well the question is do they want to leave, if they're happy where they are and aren't aspiring for that position in MTL (which is possible) the conversations might be rather quick.
- Pat1993

nah. all of them would come home walking if necessary. gm of the habs! you don't turn that down.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:46 PM ET
...and you never know!!



- Pat1993


(frank)ing hate that philosophy... let's not drive to be a great team, just good enough to get into the playoffs and maybe we get some lucky bounces and a few wins.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:47 PM ET
nah. all of them would come home walking if necessary. gm of the habs! you don't turn that down.
- fidopro


really..? meh, being GM for the habs doesn't sound like such a great job to me
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:48 PM ET
really..? meh, being GM for the habs doesn't sound like such a great job to me
- Pat1993

gm of the most prestigious team in history? I know they've sucked for a long time, but come on.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:50 PM ET
really..? meh, being GM for the habs doesn't sound like such a great job to me
- Pat1993


There are only 32 positions in the NHL.

If you have a shot at one, i think you take it.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:51 PM ET
gm of the most prestigious team in history? I know they've sucked for a long time, but come on.
- fidopro


Wonder if we can get Yzerman into some French classes ASAP....
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:51 PM ET
gm of the most prestigious team in history? I know they've sucked for a long time, but come on.
- fidopro


it's looks like a stressful AF job, and you work all the time without any schedule, the constant media scrutiny, etc... I think you're underestimating the negative aspects, and I'd totally understand a guy who wants to keep his position in the organization he's in and eventually get promoted rather than taking that job.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:52 PM ET
it's looks like a stressful AF job, and you work all the time without any schedule, the constant media scrutiny, etc... I think you're underestimating the negative aspects, and I'd totally understand a guy who wants to keep his position in the organization he's in and eventually get promoted rather than taking that job.
- Pat1993

oh for sure, it's not an easy job. they get paid accordingly. but it's a very prestigious one.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:53 PM ET
it's looks like a stressful AF job, and you work all the time without any schedule, the constant media scrutiny, etc... I think you're underestimating the negative aspects, and I'd totally understand a guy who wants to keep his position in the organization he's in and eventually get promoted rather than taking that job.
- Pat1993


But if you are in hockey, or any pro sports, that is expected - either as a player or coach or gm.

Sure, some markets have more media scrutiny than others, but pressures are pretty much the same anywhere.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:53 PM ET
There are only 32 positions in the NHL.

If you have a shot at one, i think you take it.

- Mashadar


maybe so. I guess the next GM that brings a cup to MTL will literally get a god status.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:53 PM ET
maybe so. I guess the next GM that brings a cup to MTL will literally get a god status.
- Pat1993

certainly makes his place in history yes.

and that being said, I tell you right now, if the next guy keeps Timmins for more than a week I'll start complaining.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:55 PM ET
But if you are in hockey, or any pro sports, that is expected - either as a player or coach or gm.

Sure, some markets have more media scrutiny than others, but pressures are pretty much the same anywhere.

- Mashadar


yeah as I was hinting in my other post if you're able to win in MTL you'll be covered in gold, so I guess it has its interesting potential perks.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:57 PM ET
Ugh.

504s.

And getting late.

Have a good one guys.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:58 PM ET
Ugh.

504s.

And getting late.

Have a good one guys.

- Mashadar


yeah same here, cheers
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:59 PM ET
yeah as I was hinting in my other post if you're able to win in MTL you'll be covered in gold, so I guess it has its interesting potential perks.
- Pat1993

even if you don't do that good. read earlier today that 65% of fans want MB to be back. the guy is about to miss the playoffs for the 4th time in the past 5 years if we don't count the 2 covid seasons. (and for both of these covid seasons he made it by the back door)
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Oct 22 @ 12:29 AM ET
(frank)ing hate that philosophy... let's not drive to be a great team, just good enough to get into the playoffs and maybe we get some lucky bounces and a few wins.
- Mashadar


You know something, in early years 2000, we were complaining about the Habs having a decent team and always explaining not having a great one by the fact that we were always making the playoffs and never recruiting in top 5…

When I look at Bergevin era, he drafted 3 times in top 10 which is much more than any previous Habs GM…

We had 2-3 good runs in the playoffs and always had a club that was dependant on their goalie…. Last 5 years, we did the playoffs because of CoVID…

Never had a true 1st Centre since Pierre Turgeon…

Long story short, not as disastrous as it looks like but not fantastic either…

I think he had more better trades than bad ones…. Better signatures than bad ones but the MAIN failure is drafting/player development…

I just look at Caufield, how ordinary he was in training camp but was guaranteed a spot on the top 6(same crap with KK to a certain extent…) and I just have mixed feelings with that…
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 22 @ 12:51 AM ET
well, Bergevin hinted that he wanted to be back, which would mean Molson is the one who is hesitating and possibly considering other candidates. the discussion should be less about "hey, let's fire MB" and more about "hey, let's hire this guy".
- Pat1993


Why can't it be a little of both?
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Oct 22 @ 2:20 AM ET
I can't say this is a very fun situation.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 22 @ 7:55 AM ET
Very Leafy outcome
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Oct 22 @ 8:22 AM ET
Very Leafy outcome
- AdamFrench

Molson and MB deserve credit...it isn't easy to burn through the goodwill of a fun Cinderella playoff run and completely embarrass a franchise so quickly. It's actually impressive, not sure if they actively tried to do worse that they could have
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:41 AM ET
Molson and MB deserve credit...it isn't easy to burn through the goodwill of a fun Cinderella playoff run and completely embarrass a franchise so quickly. It's actually impressive, not sure if they actively tried to do worse that they could have
- Takemedrunkimhome

You have to give Bergy credit...he's not boring.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Oct 22 @ 8:41 AM ET
Molson and MB deserve credit...it isn't easy to burn through the goodwill of a fun Cinderella playoff run and completely embarrass a franchise so quickly. It's actually impressive, not sure if they actively tried to do worse that they could have
- Takemedrunkimhome


Well, I think this is more about players underachieving than anything else. I don't think they are this bad.

Yesterday was a frustrating one to watch. I don't know if they would have won if they didn't turnover that Gallagher goal, but it seems they were deflated after that.

Unfortunately, I don't see this team string a few wins together, so this losing streak has probably killed their playoff hopes.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Oct 22 @ 8:43 AM ET
You have to give Bergy credit...he's not boring.
- AdamFrench

When the Carolina Hurricans keep making you look like a minor league baseball team and the public butt of jokes, you know you've tumbled down the mountain
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