TMDIH is claiming that the statement of Bergevin's reset being a success because they went to the SCF is false, because the plan wasn't to get the last seed after firing their coach and franchise goalie playing like trash. The reset was to build a contender in 2018. He didn't do that.

Correct me if I'm wrong, TMDIH
- mr.peanut

More or less

Bah, I got work to do and little patience for all these 504s.

Have fun.

I really think this team is due for a management change from top to bottom...even though I don't think the team sucks as bad as what they've showed those past 4 games.
- BashCH

I think fresh eyes may help...new ownership is the pipe dream

I think fresh eyes may help...new ownership is the pipe dream
- Takemedrunkimhome

With how much the team's value has grown over the years...I don't expect him to sell this team, like...ever...

I think fresh eyes may help...new ownership is the pipe dream
- Takemedrunkimhome

Molson saw Gillette turn the team into a profitable brand. I know Jaffy "lottery sperm" Molson isn't that bright, but I think he has a high enough IQ to not sell.

TMDIH is claiming that the statement of Bergevin's reset being a success because they went to the SCF is false, because the plan wasn't to get the last seed after firing their coach and franchise goalie playing like trash. The reset was to build a contender in 2018. He didn't do that.

Correct me if I'm wrong, TMDIH
- mr.peanut

Tha plan was to make a quick reset to make the most of Weber/Price instead of a full rebuild which would take both guys out the equation as main pieces.

And it almost worked.

Now Weber is almost dead, Price is away from the team and the team looks like a mess.

He, or whoever is GM, will soon have to make a similar call than the one did in 2018. "Rebuild or Reset"

Molson saw Gillette turn the team into a profitable brand. I know Jaffy "lottery sperm" Molson isn't that bright, but I think he has a high enough IQ to not sell.
- mr.peanut

Business wise I'm aware. But in pro sports a lot of winners are driven by their owners, a lot of losers the same. I'm not fond of Molson and hus desire to win

EVERYBODY AGREE TO DISAGREE!

i mean CALM DOWN!!

Tha plan was to make a quick reset to make the most of Weber/Price instead of a full rebuild which would take both guys out the equation as main pieces.

And it almost worked.

Now Weber is almost dead, Price is away from the team and the team looks like a mess.

He, or whoever is GM, will soon have to make a similar call than the one did in 2018. "Rebuild or Reset"
- Scabeh

It also required a once in a century pandemic to get in the playoffs twice. MB responsible for covid?

Can't rule it out

Business wise I'm aware. But in pro sports a lot of winners are driven by their owners, a lot of losers the same. I'm not fond of Molson and hus desire to win
- Takemedrunkimhome

Why Stan Kroenke is hated by all his team's fanbases

Didn't quite get the "cop out" thing as well TBH...
- BashCH

Shutting down a debate essentially with "yeah but here are the results, they were good so your process argument doesn't matter" is an obvious cop out but I'm over it

It also required a once in a century pandemic to get in the playoffs twice. MB responsible for covid?

Can't rule it out
- mr.peanut

that crafty sonofabiitch

EVERYBODY AGREE TO DISAGREE!

i mean CALM DOWN!!
- kicksave856

Might be the smart move because while the remaining 78 probably won't be as bad they probably will be bad enough for this to continue endlessly

It also required a once in a century pandemic to get in the playoffs twice. MB responsible for covid?

Can't rule it out
- mr.peanut

The narrative that the Habs wouldn't have made the playoffs last year in a "normal" season is purely hypothetical.

When the Habs traded for Anderson, signed Toffoli, signed Edmundson, etc in 2020, the pandemic was a thing and the canadian division was a thing.

I'm not in his head, but just like the Leafs thought about the opportunity of an easier trip to the conference final, it's not crazy to think Bergevin saw it as an opportunity as well.

Business wise I'm aware. But in pro sports a lot of winners are driven by their owners, a lot of losers the same. I'm not fond of Molson and hus desire to win
- Takemedrunkimhome

To me, he looks more like a businessman who wants to make money than a guy who wants his team to win. Coincidentally, winning makes him more money, but if you talk to him about losing for a couple of years and losing money to win later and make more, I don't think he's gonna be OK with it.

Why Stan Kroenke is hated by all his team's fanbases
- mr.peanut

That St L thing may get (frank)ing expensive...but LA football will pay it off

To me, he looks more like a businessman who wants to make money than a guy who wants his team to win. Coincidentally, winning makes him more money, but if you talk to him about losing for a couple of years and losing money to win later and make more, I don't think he's gonna be OK with it.
- BashCH

And while I can understand it as a fan of a team he owns this is why I hold him in such negative regard

Might be the smart move because while the remaining 78 probably won't be as bad they probably will be bad enough for this to continue endlessly
- Takemedrunkimhome

It's 4 games in, of course everyone has their 2¢ to give on the subject.

I'm surprised people here barely said anything about Ducharme yet, I don't think it's because of Bergevin and Molson that the team this year has scored only 3 goals in 4 games (although I know everyone will argue it is lol)
- Pat1993

ouan...

Lets promote Bouchard...

oh wait


(frank)

It also required a once in a century pandemic to get in the playoffs twice. MB responsible for covid?

Can't rule it out
- mr.peanut

MB wouldn't know how to spread syphilis if he had it (seems like he does and it already affected his mental capacities).

The narrative that the Habs wouldn't have made the playoffs last year in a "normal" season is purely hypothetical.

When the Habs traded for Anderson, signed Toffoli, signed Edmundson, etc in 2020, the pandemic was a thing and the canadian division was a thing.

I'm not in his head, but just like the Leafs thought about the opportunity of an easier trip to the conference final, it's not crazy to think Bergevin saw it as an opportunity as well.
- Scabeh

The division plans weren't a thing yet

Might be the smart move because while the remaining 78 probably won't be as bad they probably will be bad enough for this to continue endlessly
- Takemedrunkimhome

omg there are 78 left?

omg there are 78 left?
- kicksave856

Been fun so far

And while I can understand it as a fan of a team he owns this is why I hold him in such negative regard
- Takemedrunkimhome

Completely agree with you. I mean, some things in life are more important than money, and if I owned a team like the Habs, being a real hockey passionate, money would be the least of my worries, winning and legacy would be #1 on my mind.

Been fun so far
- mr.peanut