Aside from the Mailloux fiasco, what exactly has he done since July that's been "an epic and embarrassing failure"?

It's way too early to judge on most of he decisions imo.
- Scabeh

What else was he supposed to say?

"This team sucks, the players suck and I suck"?
- Scabeh

He could just shut his mouth.

But I firmly believe he thinks the Habs area a really good team that will make the playoffs.

I'm sure Mashadar would find a way to blame him anyway.

"Wow, he doesn't even believe in his own team or himself! Fire him!"
- Scabeh

He should be fired for the poopshow of a team he put together, let alone his belief that this is a solid playoff team.

That is all.

- Takemedrunkimhome

it isn't too early in MTL, that's for sure...

it isn't too early in MTL, that's for sure...
- Pat1993

I felt this way before the season started and never hid it. Through 4 games it's been reinforced like a nuclear bunker

I felt this way before the season started and never hid it. Through 4 games it's been reinforced like a nuclear bunker
- Takemedrunkimhome

I know. I just find your current hate towards MB to be slightly exaggerated, the same way you probably think my lack of hate is illogical lol

I felt this way before the season started and never hid it. Through 4 games it's been reinforced like a nuclear bunker
- Takemedrunkimhome

Oh it was telling during camp we'd have a difficult season.

Still didn't expect to go 0-4 while getting destroyed by the Sabres and Sharks.

What do the Montreal Canadiens, Danton Heinen, Brandon Tanev and Jared McCann have in common?





Check the column on the left

Aside from the Mailloux fiasco, what exactly has he done since July that's been "an epic and embarrassing failure"?

It's way too early to judge on most of he decisions imo.
- Scabeh

What exactly has he done to make this a playoff team? He knew Danault was leaving, KK wanted out (and lowballed him to make that happen), knew Weber was done and despite what they claim, knew Price was going to be an issue way before it was announced.

He signed a winger that does not fit with anyone, he traded picks for a center (albeit on a decent contract) that does not make the team that much better/playoff bound, signed a slow defencemen to add to the pack of slow defencemen he already had, and then a couple of 4th line plugs no one else wanted.

Can't see how no one saw this as a successful off season in any way.

He should be fired for the poopshow of a team he put together, let alone his belief that this is a solid playoff team.

That is all.
- Mashadar

Can't wait for the Geoff Molson presser tomorrow:

"Despite bringing the team to the SCF for the first time since 1993, we felt confident after 4 games that Bergevin didn't do his job properly this summer and should be fired.

We want to thank special consultant Mashadar for his relentless hate towards Marc these past 8 years."

What exactly has he done to make this a playoff team? He knew Danault was leaving, KK wanted out (and lowballed him to make that happen), knew Weber was done and despite what they claim, knew Price was going to be an issue way before it was announced.

He signed a winger that does not fit with anyone, he traded picks for a center (albeit on a decent contract) that does not make the team that much better/playoff bound, signed a slow defencemen to add to the pack of slow defencemen he already had, and then a couple of 4th line plugs no one else wanted.

Can't see how no one saw this as a successful off season in any way.
- Mashadar

again, to be fair I'm pretty sure this is your opinion, not a fact

I know. I just find your current hate towards MB to be slightly exaggerated, the same way you probably think my lack of hate is illogical lol
- Pat1993

I get the lack of hate. It's understandable. I think significantly less of Molson than I do MB...so there's that

again, to be fair I'm pretty sure this is your opinion, not a fact
- Pat1993

Opinion sure but one I share. I doubt he was blind sided by it

Can't wait for the Geoff Molson presser tomorrow:

"Despite bringing the team to the SCF for the first time since 1993, we felt confident after 4 games that Bergevin didn't do his job properly this summer and should be fired.

We want to thank special consultant Mashadar for his relentless hate towards Marc these past 8 years."
- Scabeh

The fact you don't think this is a tire fire is really your issue.

The same roster as last year was a coin toss (as best) to make the playoffs this year. This is a much weaker roster.

But sure, throw money and picks at vets that don't move the needle, rather than try to hold on to picks, get more picks / prospects and look to next season / the season after makes a lot of sense.

Get ready for the same discussion in 12 months.

And 24 months from now.

Because it is the same poop over and over.

again, to be fair I'm pretty sure this is your opinion, not a fact
- Pat1993

Maybe.

But I just do not see how an organization is shocked and only knew 24 hours before.

What exactly has he done to make this a playoff team? He knew Danault was leaving, KK wanted out (and lowballed him to make that happen), knew Weber was done and despite what they claim, knew Price was going to be an issue way before it was announced.

He signed a winger that does not fit with anyone, he traded picks for a center (albeit on a decent contract) that does not make the team that much better/playoff bound, signed a slow defencemen to add to the pack of slow defencemen he already had, and then a couple of 4th line plugs no one else wanted.

Can't see how no one saw this as a successful off season in any way.
- Mashadar

Not overpaying Danault, despite hurting the team in the short term, was the right move imo.

It's way too early to tell if his handling of the KK situation was the right one (if he busts in Carolina, getting a first and a third for him isn't so bad)

It was close to impossible to replace Weber once it was obvious he couldn't play anymore, what did you expect him to do?

You have absolutely no idea how the Price situation went down, none. No one does except the people involved.

Hoffman played a whooping 1 game so far. Kinda early to judge him "gelling" with the team.

Dvorak isn't perfect, but I do like what he brings to the table and his contract moving forward.

I agree that Savard wasn't the guy I would have went after in the offseason. Still a early to judge on his impact.

Perreault and Paquette have been underwhelming, I agree.

Bottom line, I don't know what you'd expect another GM to do in a similar situation but it sounds like a whole lot of unrealistic dream to me.

The fact you don't think this is a tire fire is really your issue.

The same roster as last year was a coin toss (as best) to make the playoffs this year. This is a much weaker roster.

But sure, throw money and picks at vets that don't move the needle, rather than try to hold on to picks, get more picks / prospects and look to next season / the season after makes a lot of sense.

Get ready for the same discussion in 12 months.

And 24 months from now.

Because it is the same poop over and over.
- Mashadar

He hasn't adressed the lack of a puck moving LD since Markov left.

Maybe.

But I just do not see how an organization is shocked and only knew 24 hours before.
- Mashadar

if we're talking about mental health issues, it's very well possible, there aren't necessarily any tell-tale signs.

Not overpaying Danault, despite hurting the team in the short term, was the right move imo.

It's way too early to tell if his handling of the KK situation was the right one (if he busts in Carolina, getting a first and a third for him isn't so bad)

It was close to impossible to replace Weber once it was obvious he couldn't play anymore, what did you expect him to do?

You have absolutely no idea how the Price situation went down, none. No one does except the people involved.

Hoffman played a whooping 1 game so far. Kinda early to judge him "gelling" with the team.

Dvorak isn't perfect, but I do like what he brings to the table and his contract moving forward.

I agree that Savard wasn't the guy I would have went after in the offseason. Still a early to judge on his impact.

Perreault and Paquette have been underwhelming, I agree.

Bottom line, I don't know what you'd expect another GM to do in a similar situation but it sounds like a whole lot of unrealistic dream to me.
- Scabeh

being a GM is so easy, all the solutions were there all along!!

Not overpaying Danault, despite hurting the team in the short term, was the right move imo.

It's way too early to tell if his handling of the KK situation was the right one (if he busts in Carolina, getting a first and a third for him isn't so bad)

It was close to impossible to replace Weber once it was obvious he couldn't play anymore, what did you expect him to do?

You have absolutely no idea how the Price situation went down, none. No one does except the people involved.

Hoffman played a whooping 1 game so far. Kinda early to judge him "gelling" with the team.

Dvorak isn't perfect, but I do like what he brings to the table and his contract moving forward.

I agree that Savard wasn't the guy I would have went after in the offseason. Still a early to judge on his impact.

Perreault and Paquette have been underwhelming, I agree.

Bottom line, I don't know what you'd expect another GM to do in a similar situation but it sounds like a whole lot of unrealistic dream to me.
- Scabeh

Should've traded for Crosby and McDavid. He sucks.

He hasn't adressed the lack of a puck moving LD since Markov left.
- M. Arachide

He got Mark Streit man. Isn't that enough ?

Not overpaying Danault, despite hurting the team in the short term, was the right move imo.

It's way too early to tell if his handling of the KK situation was the right one (if he busts in Carolina, getting a first and a third for him isn't so bad)

It was close to impossible to replace Weber once it was obvious he couldn't play anymore, what did you expect him to do?

You have absolutely no idea how the Price situation went down, none. No one does except the people involved.

Hoffman played a whooping 1 game so far. Kinda early to judge him "gelling" with the team.

Dvorak isn't perfect, but I do like what he brings to the table and his contract moving forward.

I agree that Savard wasn't the guy I would have went after in the offseason. Still a early to judge on his impact.

Perreault and Paquette have been underwhelming, I agree.

Bottom line, I don't know what you'd expect another GM to do in a similar situation but it sounds like a whole lot of unrealistic dream to me.
- Scabeh

Who was the other option? Dougie Hamilton? Old man Suter?

yeah that prediction is looking sooooo bad right now lol
- Pat1993

I was thinking 4, actually.

Not overpaying Danault, despite hurting the team in the short term, was the right move imo.

It's way too early to tell if his handling of the KK situation was the right one (if he busts in Carolina, getting a first and a third for him isn't so bad)

It was close to impossible to replace Weber once it was obvious he couldn't play anymore, what did you expect him to do?

You have absolutely no idea how the Price situation went down, none. No one does except the people involved.

Hoffman played a whooping 1 game so far. Kinda early to judge him "gelling" with the team.

Dvorak isn't perfect, but I do like what he brings to the table and his contract moving forward.

I agree that Savard wasn't the guy I would have went after in the offseason. Still a early to judge on his impact.

Perreault and Paquette have been underwhelming, I agree.

Bottom line, I don't know what you'd expect another GM to do in a similar situation but it sounds like a whole lot of unrealistic dream to me.
- Scabeh

I would expect a GM to look at the team and realize he does not have the pieces to compete, and put himself in a position so the team can compete next year or the year after.

Trading away a 1st round pick+ does not help that.

Bloating your cap with unnecessary contracts, unless you are eating someone's salary dump in exchange for prospects / picks makes no sense.

He had flexibility to do a lot of things, but decided to just make the team a little better rather than leverage that flexibility as the season goes on.

Who was the other option? Dougie Hamilton? Old man Suter?
- M. Arachide

Victor Mete. He good with transition. Not much else but his transition game is nice.