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cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Oct 20 @ 11:22 AM ET
Was along the lines of "it's his turn"... and that's fine. If Hart starts two of every three games this season on average, he'll get 55 starts.
- bmeltzer


Hart will get two of the three starts in Western Canada after this home stand.

I'm warming to the fact that it's Jones' turn. Still would have ridden Hart. But that's why I'm behind a computer and not the bench.

Let's go boys!
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 20 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think I’d rather see our better option in net in there Saturday vs a very good Florida team.
Had to get Jones in there in one of these first four games.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 20 @ 11:24 AM ET
Hart had a rough time against Boston last season. But Jones, who hasn't seen the Bruins in a few years minus the preseason this year, struggled against Boston even while playing generally well against the rest of the league during his best years in San Jose (1-3-2, 4.09 GAA, .867 SV%) against Boston for his career.
-bmletzer

I think a lot of goalies struggle against the Bruins. The key tonight is getting up in the game early, scoring some goals, being physical and as you stated Bill, staying out of the box as much as possible and killing whatever penalties we do get. Its a good test tonight, but more than that, its a chance for the Flyers to demonstrate that this is a different season and a different team by beating a team that owned the Flyers last year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
Keep backup in game ready shape, 1 out of 3 or 4 games for Jones is what they want. If they gave Hart this one and the weekend, it would be almost 2 weeks without a game for jones
- Shrike

I think the Flyers plan on Jones getting around 30-35 starts this year. Remember it will be a condensed schedule again because of the Olympics.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 20 @ 11:28 AM ET
Did Ullmark sign with Boston to be a backup?
- backfire

No. Ullmark is there to allow their young goalie Swayman to get his legs in the NHL. Bruce Cassidy when asked this question recently answered with one name, Carter Hart! He stated look what happened to Carter Hart last year in Philly. We wanted to be sure we didn't let that happen to Swayman this year.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Oct 20 @ 11:29 AM ET
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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 20 @ 11:31 AM ET
No. Ullmark is there to allow their young goalie Swayman to get his legs in the NHL. Bruce Cassidy when asked this question recently answered with one name, Carter Hart! He stated look what happened to Carter Hart last year in Philly. We wanted to be sure we didn't let that happen to Swayman this year.
- jd250


Shots fired.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Oct 20 @ 11:33 AM ET
I asked AV yesterday about starting Hart with off-days between every game of the homestand and coming off a strong outing on Monday where he made some huge early saves before the Flyers took control. He didn't really say much except that he's going with Jones tonight.

It could work out fine tonight or not work out. We'll see.

Hart had a rough time against Boston last season. But Jones, who hasn't seen the Bruins in a few years minus the preseason this year, struggled against Boston even while playing generally well against the rest of the league during his best years in San Jose (1-3-2, 4.09 GAA, .867 SV%) against Boston for his career.

- bmeltzer

I got a bad feeling about this....
Jones has 3 goal hook in play...Or leave him in to let them kick the extra point...Was hoping this guy has a renaissance but there were no signs but poor positioning and a lazy glove that is never up in position in any preseason game.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
No. Ullmark is there to allow their young goalie Swayman to get his legs in the NHL. Bruce Cassidy when asked this question recently answered with one name, Carter Hart! He stated look what happened to Carter Hart last year in Philly. We wanted to be sure we didn't let that happen to Swayman this year.
- jd250


Link?
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Oct 20 @ 11:35 AM ET
I think a lot of goalies struggle against the Bruins. The key tonight is getting up in the game early, scoring some goals, being physical and as you stated Bill, staying out of the box as much as possible and killing whatever penalties we do get. Its a good test tonight, but more than that, its a chance for the Flyers to demonstrate that this is a different season and a different team by beating a team that owned the Flyers last year.
- jd250

Owned may be a bit light.
They treated us like a crack Ho violating us in every orifice.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:36 AM ET
I forgot how bad the Flyers PK was against Boston last season. They really need to play smart tonight.

Weird how AV couldn't give Bill a clear cut answer for starting Jones.

- Pelle31Forever



I liken it to Shero's stock answer of why Bernie wasn't starting on any given night.

"It's his turn"
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 10/20/21 vs. BOS
- bmeltzer


Does Pasta or Marchand get a hatty tonight?
lindros's lung
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 06.20.2017

Oct 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
Good ole Patrick Bergeron
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Oct 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
Shots fired.
- Peter Richards


lol
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Does Pasta or Marchand get a hatty tonight?
- corduroy


Don’t know. Am excited to see Risto plant someone though. He is elusive but the rat will work.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
Does Pasta or Marchand get a hatty tonight?
- corduroy

i find it funny we're not playing hart against the good team
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 20 @ 11:55 AM ET
i find it funny we're not playing hart against the good team
- 2Real


Getting him ready for when Fedotov comes over in a year or two and wins the starting position.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
Does Pasta or Marchand get a hatty tonight?
- corduroy


Farabee does.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Farabee does.
- arichardson22

Kids got some swagger , the forecheck on that line is great, all of em relentless.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
Kids got some swagger , the forecheck on that line is great, all of em relentless.
- ClaudeFather


Agreed! Depending how Brassard holds up between now and Hayes’ return, I’d consider keeping that line together. And when Kevin returns that line could get some very favorable match ups.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Agreed! Depending how Brassard holds up between now and Hayes’ return, I’d consider keeping that line together. And when Kevin returns that line could get some very favorable match ups.
- arichardson22

Yea it’s a bit far away, lot can happen. That third line is just not good. Idk about everyone else but Laughton has been brutal, bad turn overs galore. He’s not helping that line.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 20 @ 12:10 PM ET
Yea it’s a bit far away, lot can happen. That third line is just not good. Idk about everyone else but Laughton has been brutal, bad turn overs galore. He’s not helping that line.
- ClaudeFather


Also agree about Laughton. It could have been all the beers I had opening night but I really didn’t notice him much. 2nd game I noticed him more, but not in a Good way lol
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Also agree about Laughton. It could have been all the beers I had opening night but I really didn’t notice him much. 2nd game I noticed him more, but not in a Good way lol
- arichardson22

In the first game he just said F it and started hitting everything that moved which I don’t mind to spark guys but play some hockey at some point. Monday night he was terrible
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
Link?
- Ftown19125

https://nesn.com/2021/08/...rk-jeremy-swayman-tandem/

This is a summary of the presser, I happened to hear it as it happened on a local radio station as I was driving.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 1:12 PM ET
I think a lot of goalies struggle against the Bruins. The key tonight is getting up in the game early, scoring some goals, being physical and as you stated Bill, staying out of the box as much as possible and killing whatever penalties we do get. Its a good test tonight, but more than that, its a chance for the Flyers to demonstrate that this is a different season and a different team by beating a team that owned the Flyers last year.
- jd250



So in other words the key to tonight is the same as the keys to every game.
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