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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:21 PM ET
Bunting and Nylander have been great together. They’ve developed a nice chemistry on the forecheck and cycle. But don’t kid yourself, if management decides Richie is slowing down Marner and Matthews, he’s gone and Bunting seems like the natural replacement.

I absolutely don’t get the point about wanting Nylander to fail. Isn’t having two strong scoring lines a good thing?

- Canada Cup

Bunting should be on the top line. Yeet Ritchie to the ECHL dude can’t keep up and looks like a dendrophiliac out there.

Willy and JT will be fine with whoever they put with them.

This team has limited options because of the cap. This is the reality of things. They’re super lucky to get Bunting at the price they did.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:25 PM ET
Bunting should be on the top line. Yeet Ritchie to the ECHL dude can’t keep up and looks like a dendrophiliac out there.

Willy and JT will be fine with whoever they put with them.

This team has limited options because of the cap. This is the reality of things. They’re super lucky to get Bunting at the price they did.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Thankfully the leafs actual coach is smart enough not to break up the second line if it’s ticking nicely.

Can’t wait to watch you whine all year about it
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 19 @ 6:25 PM ET
Bunting should be on the top line. Yeet Ritchie to the ECHL dude can’t keep up and looks like a dendrophiliac out there.

Willy and JT will be fine with whoever they put with them.

This team has limited options because of the cap. This is the reality of things. They’re super lucky to get Bunting at the price they did.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Why? He's doing great where he is.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 19 @ 6:26 PM ET
If Bunting continues his success with JT and Willie, I can't see them deciding to (frank) with that chemistry to help out poor AM34 and Mitchy-Mitch.

If the Ritchie experiment fails, it'll be time for Dubas to look outside of the org for a replacement.

- mjones242


I doubt that’s the first move. I don’t know why they wouldn’t try Zach Bunting on the first line first and then try Richie in the second or third line. They need to know what they’re shopping for. Maybe nobody if all the pieces fit somewhere else. Maybe a second line winger. But check out internal options first.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
Thankfully the leafs actual coach is smart enough not to break up the second line if it’s ticking nicely.

Can’t wait to watch you whine all year about it

- Dozzer

I’ll bet you Ritchie is off the top line within 5 games.

These guys haven’t gelled yet, so it’s not like he’s married to the idea of keeping Mikey-B with JT & Willy.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
Why? He's doing great where he is.
- mjones242


Because he hates Ritchie so much he’s willing to break up a line that plays really good together

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:29 PM ET
I’ll bet you Ritchie is off the top line within 5 games.

These guys haven’t gelled yet, so it’s not like he’s married to the idea of keeping Mikey-B with JT & Willy.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


He literally played with his line for the first time, including preseason, in a game.

He’s only supposed to be the guy that hits and parks his ass in front of the net to screen the goalie and bang in rebounds and he’s been doing rather well at that. It’s the other two at fault for not creating chances for him.

It’s up to Matthews and Marner to get their asses going to get that line moving and nothing more.
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
Bunting and Nylander have been great together. They’ve developed a nice chemistry on the forecheck and cycle. But don’t kid yourself, if management decides Richie is slowing down Marner and Matthews, he’s gone and Bunting seems like the natural replacement.

I absolutely don’t get the point about wanting Nylander to fail. Isn’t having two strong scoring lines a good thing?

- Canada Cup



Some people, maybe one constantly make suggestions of having Nylander playing with worse players.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:31 PM ET
Because he hates Ritchie so much he’s willing to break up a line that plays really good together
- Dozzer

Hate is a strong word. It’s not in my lexicon.

I’m not impressed with his game. He needs to muck it up to be effective, ala Wilson.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
I’ll bet you Ritchie is off the top line within 5 games.

These guys haven’t gelled yet, so it’s not like he’s married to the idea of keeping Mikey-B with JT & Willy.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Some things have gelled. Willie-Bunting have gelled. They’ll keep it if they can but they need the top line to work. It’s only one game for Austin so there’s no need to worry but at some point if it doesn’t work with Richie, they’ll try Bunting and then try different combos,

They need the top two lines rolling
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
Some people, maybe one constantly make suggestions of having Nylander playing with worse players.
- jribout


Nylander is more dangerous if there’s a threat on the other wing 100%
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
Some people, maybe one constantly make suggestions of having Nylander playing with worse players.
- jribout


As long as it’s not the coach, I don’t care
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
So amI hearing right? Move bunting to the first line because Mitch and Matthews need the help. But Tavares and Nylander good enough they do not need him?😀
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Some people, maybe one constantly make suggestions of having Nylander playing with worse players.
- jribout

c'mon, that's nothing but hearsay
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Some things have gelled. Willie-Bunting have gelled. They’ll keep it if they can but they need the top line to work. It’s only one game for Austin so there’s no need to worry but at some point if it doesn’t work with Richie, they’ll try Bunting and then try different combos,

They need the top two lines rolling

- Canada Cup

I’d wager on the under at 5 games.

I had high hope for thicc nick, but he looks much slower than I thought he would. He’s not even playing physical.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Hate is a strong word. It’s not in my lexicon.

I’m not impressed with his game. He needs to muck it up to be effective, ala Wilson.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Ritchie is leading the team in hits with 15 while second is Rielly who is only at 9

He has been “mucking” it up more than anyone on the bloody team
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:38 PM ET
Ritchie is leading the team in hits with 15 while second is Rielly who is only at 9

He has been “mucking” it up more than anyone on the bloody team

- Dozzer

I haven’t seen him in any scrums, or throwing big hits.

He just sorta lumbering around.
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:38 PM ET
Ritchie is leading the team in hits with 15 while second is Rielly who is only at 9

He has been “mucking” it up more than anyone on the bloody team

- Dozzer


Yeah that line looked fine last night. Matthews had what 16 shot attempts
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 19 @ 6:39 PM ET
Agreed. Goalies seem to develop fully a couple of years later so it’s so hard to draft a goalie early while feeling guaranteed he’ll develop into an NHLer
- Dozzer


While I agree that drafting a goalie early is a risk, Many picks in the first round after say #10 don't pan out. Forwards and D-men also need to develop unless they are top three picks. Look at these terrible 1st round Leaf picks.

Frederik Gauthier
Tyler Biggs
Luke Schenn (he was top five but luckily for the Leafs turned in JVR)
Jeff Ware
Bendan Convery
Scot Thornton

Even with a success rate of say 40%, Drafting the potential best goalie in the draft might be a good move.

Current Top ten goalies (round drafted)

Vasilevskiy (1st)
Lehner (2nd)
Helleybuyck (5th)
Kuemper ( 6th)
Sorokin (3rd)
Sheterkin (4th)
MAF (1st)
Spencer Knight (1st)
Campbell (1st) (added to piss off a few people)
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:40 PM ET
Yeah that line looked fine last night. Matthews had what 16 shot attempts

- jribout

Matthews and Marner are elite talents, they’re amongst the very best hockey players on the planet. We’re extremely lucky to have both those players
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:40 PM ET
I haven’t seen him in any scrums, or throwing big hits.

He just sorta lumbering around.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Because he’s huge, it doesn’t look like a big hit because he were to do poop like that he’s get tossed in the penalty box for roughing

He leads the team in hits and notably so.

He has been the only guy on that line doing his job properly. Like I said, once Matthews has his rust off watch out, even Ritchie will start to bang in rebounds. That line needs the star players to get going, not the augmentation winger.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:42 PM ET
Four games
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:42 PM ET
Yeah that line looked fine last night. Matthews had what 16 shot attempts

- jribout


But only 8 on net. He’s doing nothing more than knocking the rust off but doing so extremely quickly by shooting a ton. Wait til the preciseness kicks in as well.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:42 PM ET
Matthews and Marner are elite talents, they’re amongst the very best hockey players on the planet. We’re extremely lucky to have both those players
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Yep we got 4 of them.

No need to break a good thing up to try and cater to M & M
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:43 PM ET
But only 8 on net. He’s doing nothing more than knocking the rust off but doing so extremely quickly by shooting a ton. Wait til the preciseness kicks in as well.
- Dozzer


Exactly!
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