You want Krebs. Fine. Take 2 seconds to look at the Knights cap space. They have a 20 man roster and no cap space. Krebs is not a roster player. So who on the Knights are the Sabres taking to clear 10 mill of space? And how many players would they have to take to make that space since all of the big contracts have NTC clauses. Then what happens when Eichel comes to the knights and goes to LTIR. Are they going to play with a 17-18 man roster?

It is almost impossible to make a trade between Vegas and the Sabres work.

Wrong.

Eichel, goes on LTIR at $10m.
Olofsson (50% retained), $1.5 provides immediate scoring capability on either wing.
One of John Hayden ($0.75m), Drake Caggiula ($0.75m), Vinny Hinostroza ($1.0m)
[TOTAL CAP = $12.25m to $12.5m, HOWEVER Jack on LTIR nets them an additional $'s they can leverage from LTIR credit, while also reducing their Cap hit immediately by about $2.5m to $2.75m ($5.0 - $1.5m - [$0.75 or $1.0m])

Tuch ($4.75m)
Smith ($5.0m) [form of a Cap dump]
Krebs, non-rostered
Korcazk, non-rostered
Vegas '22-1st, no conditions, no protection
Vegas '23-2nd, conditional..becomes '23-1st if VGK makes WCF in '22 PO 's

Jack has surgery in late December, recovery of 4.5 months ... perfect "Kucherov" scenario for return in Playoffs...VGK just needs to do their part to "get in".

If Vegas wanted Eichel so bad then why did they blow their final $5m of cap space on Dadanov?

Many readers have asked to speculate on a plausible trade offer and none is ever provided. They have no cap space, a bunch of high priced guys on NTCs, but somehow they can make room for $10m Eichel??
- HockeyBuzzed

Yup.
Yes sir, they can.

Wrong.

Eichel, goes on LTIR at $10m.
Olofsson (50% retained), $1.5 provides immediate scoring capability on either wing.
One of John Hayden ($0.75m), Drake Caggiula ($0.75m), Vinny Hinostroza ($1.0m)

- IonSabres[TOTAL CAP = $12.25m to $12.5m, HOWEVER Jack on LTIR nets them an additional $'s they can leverage from LTIR credit, while also reducing their Cap hit immediately by about $2.5m to $2.75m ($5.0 - $1.5m - [$0.75 or $1.0m])

Tuch ($4.75m)
Smith ($5.0m) [form of a Cap dump]
Krebs, non-rostered
Korcazk, non-rostered
Vegas '22-1st, no conditions, no protection
Vegas '23-2nd, conditional..becomes '23-1st if VGK makes WCF in '22 PO 's

Jack has surgery in late December, recovery of 4.5 months ... perfect "Kucherov" scenario for return in Playoffs...VGK just needs to do their part to "get in".

That additional LTIR credit is huge...let's them trade for Dylan Strome to get additional help at C...which then enables them to trade him and/or others at the TDL to restock their futures a bit

So, what's the recovery on neck spinal surgery these days? Couple days?
- sokosteve

two-tree days

Ups the offer? What was the original offer and what's in the improved offer?

SHOW US THE DOMINOS
- Only_A_Ladd

Sabers get 10 000 gambling chips at the Caesar's

You want Krebs. Fine. Take 2 seconds to look at the Knights cap space. They have a 20 man roster and no cap space. Krebs is not a roster player. So who on the Knights are the Sabres taking to clear 10 mill of space? And how many players would they have to take to make that space since all of the big contracts have NTC clauses. Then what happens when Eichel comes to the knights and goes to LTIR. Are they going to play with a 17-18 man roster?

It is almost impossible to make a trade between Vegas and the Sabres work.
- TurdFergeson

No it isn't. It took me about 10 minutes to come up with a reasonable proposal on CF, where the cap/rostering is legal for both teams. Yes it needs to get a little creative and Alex Tuch probably needs to be involved.

Wrong.

Eichel, goes on LTIR at $10m.
Olofsson (50% retained), $1.5 provides immediate scoring capability on either wing.
One of John Hayden ($0.75m), Drake Caggiula ($0.75m), Vinny Hinostroza ($1.0m)

- IonSabres[TOTAL CAP = $12.25m to $12.5m, HOWEVER Jack on LTIR nets them an additional $'s they can leverage from LTIR credit, while also reducing their Cap hit immediately by about $2.5m to $2.75m ($5.0 - $1.5m - [$0.75 or $1.0m])

Tuch ($4.75m)
Smith ($5.0m) [form of a Cap dump]
Krebs, non-rostered
Korcazk, non-rostered
Vegas '22-1st, no conditions, no protection
Vegas '23-2nd, conditional..becomes '23-1st if VGK makes WCF in '22 PO 's

Jack has surgery in late December, recovery of 4.5 months ... perfect "Kucherov" scenario for return in Playoffs...VGK just needs to do their part to "get in".

Lol. They become a much much worse team under this scenario. This is a terrible deal for Vegas. Completely laughable.

No it isn't. It took me about 10 minutes to come up with a reasonable proposal on CF, where the cap/rostering is legal for both teams. Yes it needs to get a little creative and Alex Tuch probably needs to be involved.
- TheSabresTaco

Is it possible? Yes. That is why I said almost impossible. Is it probable? Hell no. Vegas is trying to make a push to win the cup. Any scenario that works cap wise makes them worse. Krebs, a first or two, Smith, Tuch for A guy that will need surgery and likely miss 6 months or more while adding some crap bottom 6 players is a complete waste of time for Vegas. It’s ridiculous.

Good to know that Vegas needs "HELPS" and not help...

must be looking at other immediate impact players, Shea Weber, Jack Eichel, ....

So just to recap...

The Vegas owner spent the entire summer knowing that Chandler Stephenson was his #1 center.

He gives MAF away, opening up $7m of cap space.

Rather than acquire a 1C the plan was to blow $5m of that on Dadanov, a winger who really wasn't needed. Then enter the season with $0 cap space.

After a 1-1 start the pressure to WIN NOW builds and the owner won't rest at night until he can add Eichel.

All makes sense to me...

No it isn't. It took me about 10 minutes to come up with a reasonable proposal on CF, where the cap/rostering is legal for both teams. Yes it needs to get a little creative and Alex Tuch probably needs to be involved.
- TheSabresTaco

You guys are going to be so underwhelmed with the return when you finally trade Eichel.

You guys are going to be so underwhelmed with the return when you finally trade Eichel.
- Cptmjl

It pretty much feels like every trade rumor involving a big name...they want 2 gold bars and some silver, but end up getting a ruby, glitter and a bag of boogers.

History never lies.

You guys are going to be so underwhelmed
with the return when you finally trade Eichel.
- Cptmjl

Nah. They still think Adams is going to get 4 first round equivalents and take no salary.

You guys are going to be so underwhelmed with the return when you finally trade Eichel.
- Cptmjl

Eichel, risto, 2nd.
Lindholm, Zad, 2 1sts.

pieces.

nope, dumb, try again

Eichel, risto, 2nd.
Lindholm, Zad, 2 1sts.

pieces.
- wreckage

Risto doesn’t play for Buffalo any longer. And that wouldn’t work cap wise.

Risto doesn’t play for Buffalo any longer. And that wouldn’t work cap wise.
- TurdFergeson

who is their new risto


and


pieces.

who is their new risto


and


pieces.
- wreckage

it's was meant as thats the type of return.

a decent C. a filler, 2 nice picks.

Jack

a filler

additional fillers.

We all leave yawning after the 2 years of build up.

It pretty much feels like every trade rumor involving a big name...they want 2 gold bars and some silver, but end up getting a ruby, glitter and a bag of boogers.

History never lies.
- Glak18

Stuart, Primeau & Marco Sturm respectively.

Stuart, Primeau & Marco Sturm respectively.



- glove_was_stuck

This guy gets it

Eklund: Vegas Ups the Offer for Eichel as Knights Need Helps Soon. (E4)
- Eklund

Don’t you think Eichel will be out? Probably longer than Stone and patches?!

Stuart, Primeau & Marco Sturm respectively.



- glove_was_stuck

It pretty much feels like every trade rumor involving a big name...they want 2 gold bars and some silver, but end up getting a ruby, glitter and a bag of boogers.

History never lies.
- Glak18

Yep

Stuart, Primeau & Marco Sturm respectively.



- glove_was_stuck

5 premium pieces.
Treasure trove.

Nah. They still think Adams is going to get 4 first round equivalents and take no salary.
- TurdFergeson

For a guy that may not play this year due to needing surgery, that surgery may or may not have a negative impact on his play/career, clearly has an attitude problem, and by all accounts doesn’t seem to be much of a team player. What team in their right mind is trading anything worthwhile for this package of crap?