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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
Nylander
- TheMussel


The winger? Why do people keep suggesting he can play a position that the leafs have never tried him in? Lol
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:44 PM ET


Already?

- Garnie


I have very little to hold on to after 3 games Garnie.


I guess Drouin looks like he's feeling better?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
Who cares about this season anyway?

ON WITH THE DRAFT!

- Scabeh


Why so pessimistic?

Last time the Habs started 0-3 Patrick Roy ended up putting on a show and winning the cup
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
I respectfully disagree on both counts.

I think Kerfoot's versatility is overestimated - he's not a legit 2F and there are cheaper options at 3LW. I think he's moved just before the TDL to bring in a Top 6 winger or d-man.

I don't think PK Subban is a player they will want in the dressing room nor will they be willing to pay the price to have a 3rd team assist with taking on his cap hit. Again, there are better options on D out there that can be had for cheaper and fit the team's needs more (e.g. Josh Manson). Subban is a shell of his former self and has always taken far too many risks defensively. To wit: Keefe's mind would explode watching PK play.

Who knows though? It's so early in the season it's hard to know what this team's needs will be going down the stretch. 🤷

- mjones242

For someone who is so focused on playoff results over regular season results I am confused...Kerfoot was great in JTs absence. If they didn't have Kerfoot the Leafs would be screwed at C last playoffs.

Love Kampf but he is not a fit on the 2C.

As for team fit for Subban I'd say there is one. He won't be playing 20 mins a night. He doesn't have to be the Subban of 3-5 years ago.

One things for sure the Leafs will need a LW. Thats a fact.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
Why so pessimistic?

Last time the Habs started 0-3 Patrick Roy ended up putting on a show and winning the cup

- TheMussel


Interesting.

You think Montembault is gonna do it?


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
I just know that the leafs still consider Liljegren the 7th guy and he’s the one guy they can bounce back and forth without risk.

Like I said once Mikheyev is back they can only afford one extra player (leaving only about $80K in cap space) so unless they move someone like him there will be no changes to the D and Liljegren will be sent down so they’re cap compliant. He’s the one guy they got that doesn’t need to clear waivers.

- Dozzer


I'm talking February, when all these moves can happen at once.

Doubtful they trade Mikheyev right away, let him prove he isn't (frank)ed from all these injuries...At least get a mid round pick for him.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
I’m less sure about Brodie so far. There have been moments where he’s had me clenching more than the sound of my doctor snapping on his surgical gloves.
- Canada Cup


Brodie's defensive zone play handling the rush has been probably the best on the team - in terms of positioning and use of his stick. His outlet passing has been poor, and his d-zone positional play once the offensive zone possession has been established has been relatively poor.

The whole team has had bad gap control and allowed the middle of the ice to be open on zone entries - which is something they started last year doing and closed relatively quickly.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
Interesting.

You think Montembault is gonna do it?



- Scabeh


He'd have to get traded to the Avs first I guess
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
I'm talking February, when all these moves can happen at once.

Doubtful they trade Mikheyev right away, let him prove he isn't (frank)ed from all these injuries...At least get a mid round pick for him.

- Santo_44


Yup, I’m not against the idea but I also think any injuries the leafs are being forced to deal with will have a big influence on what moves they make since they’re so damn tight to the cap.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Oct 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
new blog everyone
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:51 PM ET
He'd have to get traded to the Avs first I guess
- TheMussel


haha yeah he would have to be traded to the...

...

WAITAMINUTE!
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
AA is that you?

Somebody (Kipper?) compared Nylander to Kessel. He’s good when he’s secondary guy on the team, no pressure. Kessel couldn’t handle being THE guy here.

- Canada Cup


I like Kipper but when has Nylander ever been the main guy?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 18 @ 1:04 PM ET
Interesting.

You think Montembault is gonna do it?



- Scabeh


Mmmm yummy Habs tears!
Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

Oct 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
Sorry but the reaction to Marner’s contract began the second he signed it. He negotiated hardball because the other two didn’t need to.

There was no way management was going to let another Toronto boy free agent slip away. JT was going to get paid and he got paid well essentially to be the 2C. Obviously, not a normal 2C but that was his role. Matthews was going to get more as a genuine league superstar and as the guy ahead of JT and he got paid big time when you consider $ and term.

When it came to Marner’s contract, he had just come off leading the team in points but it sorry, we’re out of money. The fan reaction to his hardball negotiations was that a good Toronto boy should be happy to be playing for his hometown team and take a discount. Since then he, not Matthews has taken the poop for contracts and for every playoff failure. All I hear (in general, not directed at you) is that Auston couldn’t score because he was tired from carrying Marner around.

Dubas gave three elite players elite contracts. We’ve seen how the team can play at times when they are playing their best. None of them have stepped up sufficiently in the playoffs, but it’s all the fault of the one who’s paid the least.

- Canada Cup


Let's take a step back. I AGREE WITH EVERY THING YOU POSTED.

And I want this to be clear for once.....I didn't hate the contracts signed by Marner, Matthews or Tavares at the time they were signed. JT -UFA. Matthews-duh. Marner-almost duh. But life is fluid and things change.

A few key things have happened.

1. 3 Forwards now with very big contracts....I know, great problem to have. 3 amazing players finally on this team that deserve to get paid and they all got every possible penny they could. But, it kinda threw the balance of the line up out of whack.

2. Lack of playoff success after those contracts were signed. (not playoff success and then the demand of top dollar)

3. Covid/Flat Cap. Just such a leafy way to get (frank)ed. A (frank)ing global pandemic


4. With one injury to JT we saw just how easy it is to neutralize the Leafs potent offense and the D isn't good enough to hold low scoring, close games.

Now the Leafs are in the worst case scenario, flat cap for the amount of time our star center is signed and ready to go UFA...and we're losing other assets to FA due to lack of $$$. So far NONE OF THIS IS JUST MARNER'S FAULT for the record.

The simple problem is either balancing out the money better in the line up OR ride this group and hope they step up to win the Cup.

Some of us don't have the confidence this team is built right on the back end or bottom 6 or G to do that....and then losing assets just because some think the Leafs are going for it each year, well that's just a poop storm that hits this team in a bad way later down the road.

If they don't find more success this season, a tough decision will have to be made and I don't think it's going to be one of the $11m top notch centers, one with a NTC too. The slightly overpaid winger and his $11m is the best/easiest-hardest/most effective way to solve all the issues.

Had Marner taken $1-1.4m less and scored a little more in the playoffs, no one would even look in his direction. If he was $9.333M/5yrs, not a hint of poop would be sent his way. But if you fight for Patty Kane money, be Patty Kane in the playoffs.

There are a few $7M/70pt wingers around the league that do quite well in the playoffs too, we have one of them.

I don't care about winning 8-2 in the regular season. I care about winning 2-1 in game 7s of the Cup Final. Period.

Marner at $10.9M OR $7M winger with jam, $4M extra cap, +$1.2M Kessel + $2.75 (lose Engvall/Dermott).

I'd take the $7M winger and a $4m #4RHD and extend Rielly (= $3m raise) and a little raise for Campbell.

Ritchie, Matthews, $7MWinger
Bunting, Tavares, Nylander
Kerfoot, Kampf, Kase
Amadia, Spezza, Simmonds

Rielly, Brodie
Muzzin, $4MRHD
Sandin, Holl
Liljegren

Campbell
Mrazek

IMHO a team with balance like that will win way more than ours if we lose one of our Centers again....especially in the playoffs when a $10.9 Winger goes soft and our other Center gets 2 on 1 coverage.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
It was on for about 2 minutes, then snapped up.

Judging by how many seats will be empty, I wouldn't recommend buying lower bowl. Get the cheapest seats you can buy, and sit in empty seats after the first period.

- Atomic Wedgie


Hmm looks like all prices are US. Hmm...
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
Who cares about this season anyway?

ON WITH THE DRAFT!

- Scabeh




This year and next are the 2 to do it, if you're gonna.
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