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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 18 @ 12:09 PM ET
Hopefully Matthews can help my poop fantasy team too

Lost 8 out of 10 categories last week.

- Santo_44


Could be worse. I lost because the guy I'm facing in one league picked up Ottawa's goalie and it swayed 3 categories in his favour last second.

How insane is that?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
Wonder if Mikheyev and Dermott become expendable as the season goes on...3.15M on the cap could be used elsewhere.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
Could be worse. I lost because the guy I'm facing in one league picked up Ottawa's goalie and it swayed 3 categories in his favour last second.

How insane is that?

- GreatGigInTheSky

Worse than Bettman
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
Hopefully I'm not to intoxicate to see the Leafs win on my bday.



- dmnted


mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
They'll use that LTIR capspace to get Eichel, then let him get his surgery, and he'll be back along with Kucherov for game 1 of the playoffs. If you're going to go all-in on LTIR, give 'er. You can't make a "$26M over the cap" t-shirt if you don't invest.
- Monkeypunk

Imagine?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 18 @ 12:21 PM ET
Wonder if Mikheyev and Dermott become expendable as the season goes on...3.15M on the cap could be used elsewhere.
- Santo_44

Kerfoot, and his 3.5M cap hit, seems like a good bet to be moved. But yes, I'm thinking Soup's days are numbered.

Not so sure Dermott is moved unless there's a d-man coming back.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
Kerfoot, and his 3.5M cap hit, seems like a good bet to be moved. But yes, I'm thinking Soup's days are numbered.

Not so sure Dermott is moved unless there's a d-man coming back.

- mjones242


I think they will end up adding Subban when its all said and done. Wether fans would like it or not.

NJD retaining half and another team retaining 2.25M. I think he is a candidate to sign in Toronto for much less than he is worth too, even just in general with being so overpaid the last 3-4 years. Fit is probably his main concern and will probably end up making him the most money in the long run anyways.

Kerfoot is too versatile, I think that's an offseason move.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
Wonder if Mikheyev and Dermott become expendable as the season goes on...3.15M on the cap could be used elsewhere.
- Santo_44


Mikheyev yes but Dermott no.

All the d men they have is Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Holl, Dermott, Sandin, and Liljegren

Two of those guys are rookies and beyond that it drops off pretty severely. Unless another d man is brought in none of those guys are going anywhere
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
Mikheyev yes but Dermott no.

All the d men they have is Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Holl, Dermott, Sandin, and Liljegren

Two of those guys are rookies and beyond that it drops off pretty severely. Unless another d man is brought in none of those guys are going anywhere

- Dozzer


I am talking months away. I dont really care about the two rookies thing, especially with Sandin climbing the D ranks pretty fast.

Swap out Dermott and add a UFA D at the TDL and maybe even another Hutton type and roll with Liljegren and Hutton like D as your 7th and 8th D.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
I think they will end up adding Subban when its all said and done. Wether fans would like it or not.

NJD retaining half and another team retaining 2.25M.

Kerfoot is too versatile, I think that's an offseason move.

- Santo_44


I'm not sure if he ends up here this year - but I wouldn't bet against next year. He'll have earned $85m (well, he's been very generous with his money, but regardless his career earnings are still pretty significant). He'll be 33. His value isn't where it was, so he would likely be comparatively affordable. I don't think he's what we need, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a UFA signing.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
Kerfoot, and his 3.5M cap hit, seems like a good bet to be moved. But yes, I'm thinking Soup's days are numbered.

Not so sure Dermott is moved unless there's a d-man coming back.

- mjones242


I don't really love Dermott, but in the first 3 games, he's been pretty decent. He's been better than Muzzin (not hard to do), Holl (not hard to do), Rielly in at least one of the games, if not two . . . at this point, while he's softer than you like, and he still makes some bad decisions here and there, he's probably been the second best defenseman, and third most reliable back-end player behind Brodie and Sandin (noting that Sandin has struggled on the D-side of things at times, but his offensive and passing instincts are great).

Realistically, Muzzin, Rielly and Holl all find their grooves, but Dermott is showing that he can be a 5/6 guy who can slot into the 4-spot well enough if required.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
I am talking months away. I dont really care about the two rookies thing, especially with Sandin climbing the D ranks pretty fast.

Swap out Dermott and add a UFA D at the TDL and maybe even another Hutton type and roll with Liljegren and Hutton like D as your 7th and 8th D.

- Santo_44


Why bother? They wouldn’t be able to bring in someone any better than Dermott if they want a 13th forward and a 7th D (there won’t be an 8th this season the cap space simply isn’t there)

And there’s no way a team that considers themselves cup contenders will rely on two rookie d men. The D won’t change, and moving Mikheyev is what it will take to have a 7th d man. Otherwise it will just be Liljegren playing for the marlies and being brought up only when they need him.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:36 PM ET
I'm not sure if he ends up here this year - but I wouldn't bet against next year. He'll have earned $85m (well, he's been very generous with his money, but regardless his career earnings are still pretty significant). He'll be 33. His value isn't where it was, so he would likely be comparatively affordable. I don't think he's what we need, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a UFA signing.
- Monkeypunk

There is a really solid chance I think. There is an opportunity for him to be a long term fit here(1-2 year deals at a time) and would set him nicely for his post playing career.

The constant chatter of the Leafs being interested comes from somewhere, there likely is mutual interest.

The trade makes sense to me if NJD isnt a playoff team. Won't cost much and the Leafs and Devils can muster up some value for a team to take 2M off his cap after they retain half his cap.

Would be nice to have 3D legitimately capable of QBing a PP as well for playoffs in case of injury.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think they will end up adding Subban when its all said and done. Wether fans would like it or not.

NJD retaining half and another team retaining 2.25M. I think he is a candidate to sign in Toronto for much less than he is worth too, even just in general with being so overpaid the last 3-4 years. Fit is probably his main concern and will probably end up making him the most money in the long run anyways.

Kerfoot is too versatile, I think that's an offseason move.

- Santo_44


Agreed. Also who do they have to play C in the top 6 if Matthews or Tavares gets hurt? Nobody.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:38 PM ET
Why bother? They wouldn’t be able to bring in someone any better than Dermott if they want a 13th forward and a 7th D (there won’t be an 8th this season the cap space simply isn’t there)

And there’s no way a team that considers themselves cup contenders will rely on two rookie d men. The D won’t change, and moving Mikheyev is what it will take to have a 7th d man. Otherwise it will just be Liljegren playing for the marlies and being brought up only when they need him.

- Dozzer


I don't care about the rookie D man thing. Especially when both are rounding out the 5-7D spots.

And of course they could, the TDL is for adding UFA's, which includes D men.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
I don't really love Dermott, but in the first 3 games, he's been pretty decent. He's been better than Muzzin (not hard to do), Holl (not hard to do), Rielly in at least one of the games, if not two . . . at this point, while he's softer than you like, and he still makes some bad decisions here and there, he's probably been the second best defenseman, and third most reliable back-end player behind Brodie and Sandin (noting that Sandin has struggled on the D-side of things at times, but his offensive and passing instincts are great).

Realistically, Muzzin, Rielly and Holl all find their grooves, but Dermott is showing that he can be a 5/6 guy who can slot into the 4-spot well enough if required.

- Monkeypunk


I’m less sure about Brodie so far. There have been moments where he’s had me clenching more than the sound of my doctor snapping on his surgical gloves.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
Agreed. Also who do they have to play C in the top 6 if Matthews or Tavares gets hurt? Nobody.
- Dozzer

Yeah and I'd rather stay out of the UFA C market at the TDL, too pricey. Get a decent LW option.

Robby Fabbri? I know the TDL is far away but he would be a nice add to any team looking for a scoring 2nd/3rd line winger.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
I’m less sure about Brodie so far. There have been moments where he’s had me clenching more than the sound of my doctor snapping on his surgical gloves.
- Canada Cup


Brodie with the puck this year has been a bit cringy
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think they will end up adding Subban when its all said and done. Wether fans would like it or not.

NJD retaining half and another team retaining 2.25M. I think he is a candidate to sign in Toronto for much less than he is worth too, even just in general with being so overpaid the last 3-4 years. Fit is probably his main concern and will probably end up making him the most money in the long run anyways.

Kerfoot is too versatile, I think that's an offseason move.

- Santo_44

I respectfully disagree on both counts.

I think Kerfoot's versatility is overestimated - he's not a legit 2F and there are cheaper options at 3LW. I think he's moved just before the TDL to bring in a Top 6 winger or d-man.

I don't think PK Subban is a player they will want in the dressing room nor will they be willing to pay the price to have a 3rd team assist with taking on his cap hit. Again, there are better options on D out there that can be had for cheaper and fit the team's needs more (e.g. Josh Manson). Subban is a shell of his former self and has always taken far too many risks defensively. To wit: Keefe's mind would explode watching PK play.

Who knows though? It's so early in the season it's hard to know what this team's needs will be going down the stretch. 🤷
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Agreed. Also who do they have to play C in the top 6 if Matthews or Tavares gets hurt? Nobody.
- Dozzer


Nylander
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Who cares about this season anyway?

ON WITH THE DRAFT!
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
Who cares about this season anyway?

ON WITH THE DRAFT!

- Scabeh

Great season to tank!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
Great season to tank!
- mjones242


Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 18 @ 12:43 PM ET
I don't care about the rookie D man thing. Especially when both are rounding out the 5-7D spots.

And of course they could, the TDL is for adding UFA's, which includes D men.

- Santo_44


I just know that the leafs still consider Liljegren the 7th guy and he’s the one guy they can bounce back and forth without risk.

Like I said once Mikheyev is back they can only afford one extra player (leaving only about $80K in cap space) so unless they move someone like him there will be no changes to the D and Liljegren will be sent down so they’re cap compliant. He’s the one guy they got that doesn’t need to clear waivers.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
Who cares about this season anyway?

ON WITH THE DRAFT!

- Scabeh





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