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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 15 @ 8:17 PM ET
It's an excellent goal song.

I don't overly care what people think of the song itself, but as a goal song, it's perfect.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Adam
@ElSeldo
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13m
If I was the Maple Leafs I would announce on Twitter that they have a new goal song, hype it up all day, then play "Never gonna give you up" after the first goal is scored

Then go back to Hall & Oates.

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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 15 @ 8:21 PM ET
It's an excellent goal song.

I don't overly care what people think of the song itself, but as a goal song, it's perfect.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Haha - ya man it’s a fun song for sure. I’m sure of it ticked off the players they’d change it - so obviously they are fine with it. I guarantee they have say if something has to go or not.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 15 @ 8:48 PM ET
there’s been some talk about goal and change room music on this thread

hall and oates hasn’t brought us any luck in terms of playoff success🤦🏿‍♂️

who in the (frank) would cue this for a contact sport🤦‍♂️?

Here are some alternatives by genre based upon my personal preferences

Metal: Iron Maiden
https://youtu.be/WxnN05vOuSM

or “die with your boots on” by maiden

south of heaven by slayer will give you 10% more power in the gym as well

https://youtu.be/iYSXHlra5Vk

probably more of a build up for pregame when the boyz come out for the fan sk8

Rap:straight outta compton from nwa rip easy e

https://youtu.be/TMZi25Pq3T8

classical:ride of the valkeries by the Berlin philharmonic

edit: https://youtu.be/DfAJsPce8lk


there’s something about those shrill voices from those chicks that stirs my loins

country/western:best for reflection after a loss

https://youtu.be/1aYv_9QfXw8
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:58 PM ET
Might be a prime time for our brass to apologize to Tukka for the Raycroft trade. Kind of ease the tension in the room when we pick him up for the play-off run.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
I think 6 to 8 weeks. Lets hope it's less.
- dmnted

One of my big concerns about this season. Neither guy has a track record of carrying the mail. How do you blow your groin in game 1, anyway? Now we got one guy who has never played more than 30 odd games. I like Jack Campbell. But this team is in a WORLD of hurt if he goes down. Btw, didn't someone around this team used to say "start on time"?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
One of my big concerns about this season. Neither guy has a track record of carrying the mail. How do you blow your groin in game 1, anyway? Now we got one guy who has never played more than 30 odd games. I like Jack Campbell. But this team is in a WORLD of hurt if he goes down. Btw, didn't someone around this team used to say "start on time"?
- fifty__missions


If Vasilevsky goes down or Helly in Winnipeg go down the teams are also in a world of hurt.

When starters go down on teams they all suffer. Leafs aren't the only one.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
Holl proved yesterday that he shouldn't be playing.

Put Liljegren on Muzzin's pair and let him skate. Something that Holl can't do. Also lets Muzzin not skate so much.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I'm thinking Holl @ 2M has been incorrectly assessed as a bargain for a Top 4 RHD. Frankly, I think he's overrated AF.

Muzzin has played very poorly in his first two games and guess who has also played like poop? Justin Holl. Coincidence? I think not.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 15 @ 9:41 PM ET
I'm thinking Holl @ 2M has been incorrectly assessed as a bargain for a Top 4 RHD. Frankly, I think he's overrated AF.

Muzzin has played very poorly in his first two games and guess who has also played like poop? Justin Holl. Coincidence? I think not.

- mjones242



Leafs look to be playing a bit different in their own zone this year. They tweaked coverage a bit and it’s throwing guys off a bit I think. They will figure it out…At least Muzzin will. He’s a good dman. Holl is a bit day-to-day with his play to be honest. He’s a decent #4 dman when he’s at his best.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 15 @ 9:42 PM ET
I'm thinking Holl @ 2M has been incorrectly assessed as a bargain for a Top 4 RHD. Frankly, I think he's overrated AF.

Muzzin has played very poorly in his first two games and guess who has also played like poop? Justin Holl. Coincidence? I think not.

- mjones242

how has muzzin played poorly?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:01 PM ET
how has muzzin played poorly?
- Skalapy

Muzzin has not looked good at all in the first two games of this season.

I'm not saying he won't return to form but it's been a rough start.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
Leafs look to be playing a bit different in their own zone this year. They tweaked coverage a bit and it’s throwing guys off a bit I think. They will figure it out…At least Muzzin will. He’s a good dman. Holl is a bit day-to-day with his play to be honest. He’s a decent #4 dman when he’s at his best.
- Big23Questions

Unfortunately, he's not at his best very much.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:05 PM ET
how has muzzin played poorly?
- Skalapy

i fell asleep before last night’s game but I thought that he was the best DEFENSEman against the habs

dermott looked pretty good too

hole was invisible but he made a pretty good defensive play that I liked at some point
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 15 @ 10:08 PM ET
i fell asleep before last night’s game but I thought that he was the best DEFENSEman against the habs

dermott looked pretty good too

hole was invisible but he made a pretty good defensive play that I liked at some point

- Skalapy


Yet Muzzin was too far up leaving Holl alone in a 2 on 1 leading to the habs goal

Muzzin has been routinely out of position for some reason
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:09 PM ET
Muzzin has not looked good at all in the first two games of this season.

I'm not saying he won't return to form but it's been a rough start.

- mjones242

he looked good to me in the win against the habs

what has he been doing wrong as a defenseman?
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:15 PM ET
Yet Muzzin was too far up leaving Holl alone in a 2 on 1 leading to the habs goal

Muzzin has been routinely out of position for some reason

- Dozzer


oh with caufield?

yeah he got caught

He’s still their best DEFENSEman and that’s telling
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 15 @ 10:16 PM ET
Unfortunately, he's not at his best very much.
- mjones242



Haha - he’s not that bad man. I do agree he would be an ideal bottom pairing guy but Leafs don’t have a better suited 2nd pairing guy than Holl. Sandin maybe next year after growing pains this full 82. But not right now…positive ways for you guys is if you do keep Rielly (not starting that debate at all just if it works out like that)

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Sandin

Is a nice Top 4
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:18 PM ET
he looked good to me in the win against the habs

what has he been doing wrong as a defenseman?

- Skalapy

Are you kidding me? Muzzin-Holl looked fairly terrible against the Dvorak line all game.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
oh with caufield?

yeah he got caught

He’s still their best DEFENSEman and that’s telling

- Skalapy


Yup, wishing him and Holl would just become one of those pairs that sit back, get the puck, and make a forward to come back and get it to move forward.

Be a true stay at home pairing
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
Haha - he’s not that bad man. I do agree he would be an ideal bottom pairing guy but Leafs don’t have a better suited 2nd pairing guy than Holl. Sandin maybe next year after growing pains this full 82. But not right now…positive ways for you guys is if you do keep Rielly (not starting that debate at all just if it works out like that)

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Sandin

Is a nice Top 4

- Big23Questions

He's less than mediocre as a Top 4 defender. He'd be reasonable enough on the 3rd pair.

The cap situation we have in Toronto means we have very little choice but to play him as our second pair RHD as there hasn't been anyone in the system who can reasonably replace him. I'm hoping Lilybust will be that guy at some point...
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
Haha - he’s not that bad man. I do agree he would be an ideal bottom pairing guy but Leafs don’t have a better suited 2nd pairing guy than Holl. Sandin maybe next year after growing pains this full 82. But not right now…positive ways for you guys is if you do keep Rielly (not starting that debate at all just if it works out like that)

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Sandin

Is a nice Top 4

- Big23Questions


Except Holl-Dermott as a 3rd pairing would be outright terrifying for a leafs fan lol
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:29 PM ET
Except Holl-Dermott as a 3rd pairing would be outright terrifying for a leafs fan lol
- Dozzer

Would be great to see Sandin really step up this season and be the heir apparent to Rielly. That would give the team a lot of flexibility to let Rielly walk (or trade his rights away) and use that cap space to sign/trade for a Muzzin type in the off-season and a bottom pair LHD better than Dermott:

Sandin-Brodie
Muzzin-Muzzinesque RHD
Better Than EzraDermott-Lilybust

Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 15 @ 10:30 PM ET
Except Holl-Dermott as a 3rd pairing would be outright terrifying for a leafs fan lol
- Dozzer



Holl WITH Dermott - yes. A bit scary I imagine.

Holl with a more stay at home type guy (a bit like Bogosian style) would be great. A quiet boring pairing to throw out.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 15 @ 10:37 PM ET
Would be great to see Sandin really step up this season and be the heir apparent to Rielly. That would give the team a lot of flexibility to let Rielly walk (or trade his rights away) and use that cap space to sign/trade for a Muzzin type in the off-season and a bottom pair LHD better than Dermott:

Sandin-Brodie
Muzzin-Muzzinesque RHD
Better Than EzraDermott-Lilybust


- mjones242


I’m hoping the exact same thing regarding Sandin tbh. However I was assuming Muzzin/Holl would be the effective shut down pairing letting Sandin do the 3rd pairing and maybe 2nd PP kinda thing. If they’re considering themselves cup contenders putting a rookie in the second primarily defensive pairing as the offensive talent is a big risk. I guess here’s hoping he proves it’s a good call to play him with more primary ice time
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 15 @ 10:40 PM ET
Holl WITH Dermott - yes. A bit scary I imagine.

Holl with a more stay at home type guy (a bit like Bogosian style) would be great. A quiet boring pairing to throw out.

- Big23Questions


I’d be fine with having a boring third pairing tbh lol

Holl with Dermott tho… a meh defensive guy paired with a meh offensive guy… that alone bothers me
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 15 @ 10:46 PM ET
3 points (1+2) for Niemelä earlier today.

12 points (2+10) in 12 games. Leads all D in points. 6th overall in points. 7th highest PPG.

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