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Been reading Canucksarmy about what they said about him over the years. There was a reason why Jay Beagle and Brandon Sutter always played before him, even though Gaudette was considered a much better offensive player - LAHawk
Yes, both Sutter [3rd C] and Beagle [4th C] were much better than Gaudette defensively. Both were better at FO's and just overall defensive play.
Gaudette had that one breakout season and there was a hope amongst Canuck's management that Gaudette might be able to lock down the 3rd C position.
The hope was that they could move Sutter up into the top 6 to unleash some more offense, without sacrificing defense. His size and rugged style of play would also help. At this time Vancouver was lacking two-way forwards in their top 6.
Ferland was injured, Baertschi had a bad concussion, was super skilled but very inconsistent, also wasn't a hard player to play against. Virtanen was frustrating them with his inconsistent play and couldn't lock down a top 6 spot.
Things didn't work out. Beagle was expected to be playoff Beagle, and his point totals dropped below half of what he had in Washington. Sutter missed significant time and his scoring disappeared. A lot of forwards underperformed.
Gaudette was one of them. His scoring disappeared and he was not defensively sound.
Canucks management lost faith in him and traded him for Highmore.
Not really sure if it was totally on him, the whole team really was a mess. There were a lot of young players, a lot of injuries over the last couple seasons. They are rebuilding. Additionally there are a lot of calls in Vancouver to ditch the coach and GM.
The Vancouver fan base is a bit excessive as well. An example was the situation when Vancouver played well in the playoffs against Vegas. The fans expectation was they were really close to being competitive in the playoffs again. They weren't a very good team at all and only had a goalie who was hot for a series. Yet they still believe they are much closer than they really are. |
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Ek has Strome going to Vegas or Montreal. Montreal would make more sense, they have more 3rd round picks in the upcoming draft. - DarthKane
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0.1% chance of that being accurate unless verified by a LEGIT source. EK is NOT a legit source. - SteveRain
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What???? Since when???? - DarthKane
HAHAHA you know....
I know "BOB" worked some magic on this board in previous years, but let us all not forget EK pimped the infamous "dallas dave" for a legit source who turned out to be.....2 dudes making crap up.
So I'd say around then...or even 2009 when he had the Hawks "all in" on Kovalchuk.
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Yes, both Sutter - SchwiftyHawk[3rd C] and Beagle [4th C] were much better than Gaudette defensively. Both were better at FO's and just overall defensive play.
Gaudette had that one breakout season and there was a hope amongst Canuck's management that Gaudette might be able to lock down the 3rd C position.
The hope was that they could move Sutter up into the top 6 to unleash some more offense, without sacrificing defense. His size and rugged style of play would also help. At this time Vancouver was lacking two-way forwards in their top 6.
Ferland was injured, Baertschi had a bad concussion, was super skilled but very inconsistent, also wasn't a hard player to play against. Virtanen was frustrating them with his inconsistent play and couldn't lock down a top 6 spot.
Things didn't work out. Beagle was expected to be playoff Beagle, and his point totals dropped below half of what he had in Washington. Sutter missed significant time and his scoring disappeared. A lot of forwards underperformed.
Gaudette was one of them. His scoring disappeared and he was not defensively sound.
Canucks management lost faith in him and traded him for Highmore.
Not really sure if it was totally on him, the whole team really was a mess. There were a lot of young players, a lot of injuries over the last couple seasons. They are rebuilding. Additionally there are a lot of calls in Vancouver to ditch the coach and GM.
The Vancouver fan base is a bit excessive as well. An example was the situation when Vancouver played well in the playoffs against Vegas. The fans expectation was they were really close to being competitive in the playoffs again. They weren't a very good team at all and only had a goalie who was hot for a series. Yet they still believe they are much closer than they really are.
I think Gaudette can succeed in Chicago, but not on the 4th line if that line is given a checking/defensive assignment. I’d replace Johnson in the top 9 with Gaudette, at least on a trial basis. That’s not to say Gaudette should centre Kane and DeBrincat, I’d place Dach there with Gaudette on the 3rd line.
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HAHAHA you know....
I know "BOB" worked some magic on this board in previous years, but let us all not forget EK pimped the infamous "dallas dave" for a legit source who turned out to be.....2 dudes making crap up.
So I'd say around then...or even 2009 when he had the Hawks "all in" on Kovalchuk.
Fun times.....poor Eli had to defend him. Rough gig. - SteveRain
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I’m still waiting for the Hawks to acquire Malkin. - DarthKane
or suter
or whitney
or parise
or kessler
Fun times to be had by all. I saw JJ is no longer affiliated with the rink in regards to writing articles. IF you guys ever met that Osborn guy, that site would have all of 2 followers. What a sieve that dude is.... |
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Hey ALL: went over to the RINK site (my annual visit) - didnt see JJ on the site as writer or mentioned. I thought he was one of the site founders? |
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Hey ALL: went over to the RINK site (my annual visit) - didnt see JJ on the site as writer or mentioned. I thought he was one of the site founders? - glennjpawlak22
Maybe his fellow founders were looking for more than one blog a quarter from him.
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Yes, both Sutter - SchwiftyHawk[3rd C] and Beagle [4th C] were much better than Gaudette defensively. Both were better at FO's and just overall defensive play.
Gaudette had that one breakout season and there was a hope amongst Canuck's management that Gaudette might be able to lock down the 3rd C position.
The hope was that they could move Sutter up into the top 6 to unleash some more offense, without sacrificing defense. His size and rugged style of play would also help. At this time Vancouver was lacking two-way forwards in their top 6.
Ferland was injured, Baertschi had a bad concussion, was super skilled but very inconsistent, also wasn't a hard player to play against. Virtanen was frustrating them with his inconsistent play and couldn't lock down a top 6 spot.
Things didn't work out. Beagle was expected to be playoff Beagle, and his point totals dropped below half of what he had in Washington. Sutter missed significant time and his scoring disappeared. A lot of forwards underperformed.
Gaudette was one of them. His scoring disappeared and he was not defensively sound.
Canucks management lost faith in him and traded him for Highmore.
Not really sure if it was totally on him, the whole team really was a mess. There were a lot of young players, a lot of injuries over the last couple seasons. They are rebuilding. Additionally there are a lot of calls in Vancouver to ditch the coach and GM.
The Vancouver fan base is a bit excessive as well. An example was the situation when Vancouver played well in the playoffs against Vegas. The fans expectation was they were really close to being competitive in the playoffs again. They weren't a very good team at all and only had a goalie who was hot for a series. Yet they still believe they are much closer than they really are.
More so than this board? Asking for a friend.
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More so than this board? Asking for a friend. - LAHawk
The Vancouver board starts riots remember, this board only has extreme blood pressure and ledge issues. |
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or suter
or whitney
or parise
or kessler
Fun times to be had by all. I saw JJ is no longer affiliated with the rink in regards to writing articles. IF you guys ever met that Osborn guy, that site would have all of 2 followers. What a sieve that dude is.... - SteveRain
That site is just not very good. Not much activity in the forums, articles are not very good, not much reason to go there. Never met Osborn, so not sure what you're getting at, but it doesn't really matter
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The Vancouver board starts riots remember, this board only has extreme blood pressure and ledge issues. - paulr
And Kangaroo courts
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Maybe his fellow founders were looking for more than one blog a quarter from him. - HawkintheD
Maybe his fellow founders figured out he wasn’t an insider and had no “sources”? |
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I think Gaudette can succeed in Chicago, but not on the 4th line if that line is given a checking/defensive assignment. I’d replace Johnson in the top 9 with Gaudette, at least on a trial basis. That’s not to say Gaudette should centre Kane and DeBrincat, I’d place Dach there with Gaudette on the 3rd line. - DarthKane
When Gaudette had his best point season in Vancouver he player mostly with Sutter (big, defensively sound center) and Roussel (disruptive hard forechecking winger). Neither Sutter (8 goals) nor Roussel (7 goals, but he was limited to only 41 games - injured) had spectacular point for the season. Actually Sutter really disappointed point wise, but was still fairly steady defensively. Gaudette really stepped up and surprised 59 games 12 goals 33 points with about 12 mins per game. That was Vancouver's third line for the first half of the season.
Health issues plagued him in the second half.
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More so than this board? Asking for a friend. - LAHawk
Yes, its Canada so we are all hockey mad up here, but there is a bit of an unrealistic expectation for the Canucks. Possibly because they were so good for a decade they have just grown to expect it. Not exactly sure the reasoning?
Funny thing though when you are at a game, its really quiet inside. Calgary and Winnipeg are both way louder. Can't comment on Edmonton. But Toronto and Montreal the fans are way more into it. Never been to an Ottawa game.
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The Vancouver board starts riots remember, this board only has extreme blood pressure and ledge issues. - paulr
The first riots were a reaction to the game.
The second riots were so planned and everyone knew about it prior.
The situation was really mishandled badly.
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The first riots were a reaction to the game.
The second riots were so planned and everyone knew about it prior.
The situation was really mishandled badly. - SchwiftyHawk
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Colliton said Seth Jones will play so much that he won't have just one partner — he'll play some with de Haan, Stillman and even Gustafsson. The McCabe-Murphy pair will be more "static."
Colliton on Strome:
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I was being a smart ass. - paulr
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Not saying I like that line or disagree that Johnson should maybe be on the third line but where do you play Dach if you decide to play Strome on that line? - HawkintheD
Dach can center Johnson or Dach can center Toews (who IMO should get the Giroux treatment at this point - takes critical faceoffs but moved to wing) |
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Yes, its Canada so we are all hockey mad up here, but there is a bit of an unrealistic expectation for the Canucks. Possibly because they were so good for a decade they have just grown to expect it. Not exactly sure the reasoning?
Funny thing though when you are at a game, its really quiet inside. Calgary and Winnipeg are both way louder. Can't comment on Edmonton. But Toronto and Montreal the fans are way more into it. Never been to an Ottawa game. - SchwiftyHawk
Been to Vancouver a few times. Loved the city. Loved having coffee on the patio watching the water taxis landing in the morning.
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3C. Johnson plays wing somewhere in the Top 9, I guess. If Johnson goes to the 3rd line, either Hagel or Borgy go to the 4th, or the bench. So, Strome causes one of the other forwards to sit. Who? And does that trade-off make the team better? - mohel
Carpenter or Khaira, maybe Borgstrom (since he's a similar player albeit a little bit faster) doesn't really matter. |
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Colliton said Seth Jones will play so much that he won't have just one partner — he'll play some with de Haan, Stillman and even Gustafsson. The McCabe-Murphy pair will be more "static."
Colliton on Strome:
"He’s hungry to play. Last time I talked to him a couple days ago, he said, ‘When I come in, I’m not coming out.’ That’s the attitude you’ve got to have. He’s got some competition here." - Chunk
If Jones and Gustafson are together poor Dot’s head or heart will explode!
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Like you can turn it on and off. - Chunk
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