I think 20 seems fair. Something tells me that a coaching decision will come quicker than that. IIRC Savard and Q got tossed earlier. It seems that they shifted from development to attempted contention, and waiting a quarter of the season seems too long if you're going for it. So, I think it'll be about 10 games, if they do it.
- mohel

If JC is moved out then that leaves Bowman as the next to go if the Hawks don’t improve. Bowman will be very careful making that move, unless it’s forced on him.

If JC is moved out then that leaves Bowman as the next to go if the Hawks don’t improve. Bowman will be very careful making that move, unless it’s forced on him.
- paulr

Yep, there's every chance he stays. But they seemed to change course in the offseason to more of a win-now mode. So maybe Stan is already on the hot seat. He goes to Danny and says "since we shifted to 'win-now' we need a different coach". Might work, especially if Danny likes Stan.

Yep, there's every chance he stays. But they seemed to change course in the offseason to more of a win-now mode. So maybe Stan is already on the hot seat. He goes to Danny and says "since we shifted to 'win-now' we need a different coach". Might work, especially if Danny likes Stan.
- mohel

Seems like it still might be hard to explain why you hired a coach who you didn't think could help the team win, regardless of the emphasis placed on player development.

Yep, there's every chance he stays. But they seemed to change course in the offseason to more of a win-now mode. So maybe Stan is already on the hot seat. He goes to Danny and says "since we shifted to 'win-now' we need a different coach". Might work, especially if Danny likes Stan.
- mohel

I understand what you meant about the change in direction. Be interesting to find out if that came from Bowman or above! Because I personally didn’t and don’t think the Hawks are ready to make that move.

A case could be made that the only reason Seabrook became a star was because Of DK.
- Diamondhands

Seabrook wasn't good because of Keith.

Seems like it still might be hard to explain why you hired a coach who you didn't think could help the team win, regardless of the emphasis placed on player development.
- pdx2ord

Danny, your predecessor told me to hire a cheap developmental coach until it was time to win. Now it is time for that coach.

That's my line if I am Stan and I want to make the change. If Danny doesn't want Stan, nothing he says matters anyway.

I think 20 seems fair. Something tells me that a coaching decision will come quicker than that. IIRC Savard and Q got tossed earlier. It seems that they shifted from development to attempted contention, and waiting a quarter of the season seems too long if you're going for it. So, I think it'll be about 10 games, if they do it.
- mohel

Jc won't survive the 3-6-1 start.

Seabrook wasn't good because of Keith.
- breadbag

A very ambiguous statement!

I understand what you meant about the change in direction. Be interesting to find out if that came from Bowman or above! Because I personally didn’t and don’t think the Hawks are ready to make that move.
- paulr

I agree, although I see why Bowman went after a 27 year old defenseman he sees as a #1 (I understand people are skeptical about whether Jones is that guy) as part of a rebuild.

There's a ton we don't know about the internal affairs of the front office. I'd like Bob's input.

Could be. But if you ask Duncan Keith, he'll tell you Seabs had plenty to do with him being Duncan Keith. I'll take his opinion on that.
- mohel

I see that point of view but what professional or friend would say otherwise?

You need balance in pairs.....Keith could push things because Seabrook would back it up. You think Keith becomes the same player if he's paired with Cam Barker and not Seabrook? Not a chance in hell.
- SteveRain

Barker was a flop and not a fair comparison. Any component dman would do. Hammer would have been sufficient.

I see that point of view but what professional or friend would say otherwise?
- Diamondhands

His explanation made sense to me. I'm glad the Hawks had both. I think they were both great.

Jc won't survive the 3-6-1 start.
- Elbows15

I hope you're right. There's no reason for this original 6 and 3 time SC champion team should have the lowest paid Head Coach in the NHL. This team had it's flaws the last 2 years under JC but now the kids are ready to take charge and take the next step.
I agree that another top 4 Damn is needed but don't believe that's possible until the end of the year. Those guys are hard to find and will cost something to get one.

They might consider moving Kubalik to get one though, if Reichel shows he'll be ready to move up and dependent on what type of money Kubalik is looking for.

One other thing that continues to aggravate me. This team absolutely refuses to shoot high on goaltenders. The only player that scores goals in the top portion of the net is Alex Debrincat. Kane used to, but not much anymore. It seems like everybody thinks they're Jonathan Toews and attempts 5 hole way too much. Dach had 3 attemps last night to elevate and all three times he shot along the ice. I am kind of wondering if his wrist problems are causing him shooting problems ?? I sure hope not because he will continue to have problems finishing if he can't elevate.

Jc won't survive the 3-6-1 start.
- Elbows15

Do you think the results are better after an initial improvement if M Crawfird took over?

There has to be a major overhaul of how they play defensively. Some player shake up seems inevitable.

Believe it or not Jones can become a descent EFFECTIVE dman. The key is to put him in a position to succeed. Remember why he was acquired: in order to win in playoffs:you need a big body
who will knock down the other teams big bodies, a minute cruncher. Get over this #1 dman crap. Be especially hopefully that Jones can be effective no matter the TOI. There is not a #1 dman but hopefully three solid pairs evolve

What do you think of Galvas with Stillman? Would one of them be uncomfortable if not on his natural side? DeHahn is not going to remain injury free for long. Beside, do we want Galvas here and Mitchell playing tons in the AHL

You know darn well that Bowman will give Colliton opportunity to get the team to jell. The key is how long Colliton lasts as coach might well be if there is improvement. If still too many issues not getting much better, surely the record will be bad. Maybe very bad

But consider this too - let us be fair - with Keith gone and he wasn't a #1 any longer BTW - whom would you have plugged in. Hamilton is not the type guy the team needs. Even larger disaster than Jones to start the season. The point is, we must be hopeful that Colliton can get the problems much diminished. Ultimately players and coach must execute a strategy.

And ultimately I do not believe Colliton is the right coach. But he may stick around longer if he can get the team playing somewhat better

Johnson moved down because Cirelli and Goude are better players. As for the Jones trade, I said at the time it may be time for Bowman to go. Hamilton signed in Jersey. Don't you think Chicago might be a better spot than Jersey?

Its a move that will set them back for years.
- Elbows15

I really haven’t given much thought what I expect out of jones.

I get the hate. All big money and long term deals in a cap world rarely work out for the team at the end. For this to work hawks need jones to produce multiple years.

In news sure to please Paulie and Rick, the Leaves are losing to Ottawa 3-0 after one.

If JC is moved out then that leaves Bowman as the next to go if the Hawks don’t improve. Bowman will be very careful making that move, unless it’s forced on him.
- paulr

I agree with this unless he was told to get into playoffs this year. So sitting with JC May get them both axed at years end.

Going to be interesting to watch. See how hot that JC seat is. If it isn’t tells me both are safe and then I’m completely lost what the hell they are trying to do with this 180 pivot in July.

Barker was a flop and not a fair comparison. Any component dman would do. Hammer would have been sufficient.
- Diamondhands

Well dehaan is a turd so saddling Jones with him is about as bad as saddling Keith in 2009 with barker.

In news sure to please Paulie and Rick, the Leaves are losing to Ottawa 3-0 after one.
- mohel

Damn. Thought they were going 82-0.

Shame. Gretzky was going out of his way last night to bring up the damn leafs.

Don’t see ole Wayne lasting long on these broadcasts. He’s uncomfortable and has a hard time articulating his thoughts no matter how often others try to give him a lead in….ie….pp talk last night.

Well dehaan is a turd so saddling Jones with him is about as bad as saddling Keith in 2009 with barker.
- SteveRain

DeHaan is better than Barker. Again not a fair comparison. DeHaan is too often injured but when he isn’t, he plays better than most.

Ottawa:
Wish the Hawks looked like this- rebuild was worth it.

Ottawa:
Wish the Hawks looked like this- rebuild was worth it.
- Colbyboy

Give the Blackhawks 30 years to rebuild and see what they can do

Ottawa:
Wish the Hawks looked like this- rebuild was worth it.
- Colbyboy

Show me a team in the last 10 years that has worked other than the Astros and Cubs. Also, both were done prior to a Foreign player salary cap. Still waiting to see it work in Hockey.

Give the Blackhawks 30 years to rebuild and see what they can do
- paulr

Show me a team in the last 10 years that has worked other than the Astros and Cubs. Also, both were done prior to a Foreign player salary cap. Still waiting to see it work in Hockey.
- rpeters01

Cubs? Umm they won one time that’s it. Not a good choice.

Yankees, Red Sox, Lightning, Penguins