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BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Oct 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
does this mean you guys will be looking to get another winger. Tarasenko has 2goals and 2 assists in 4 pre-season games. he has been deemed 100% healthy by surgeon and his shot velocity is crazy again. He has had almost 6-7 goals in pre-season. Just barely missing net. The accuracy will come back in time.

Blues need young dmen. Maybe Kravstov and Mathew roberston or just 2nd and braden schnieder.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
does this mean you guys will be looking to get another winger. Tarasenko has 2goals and 2 assists in 4 pre-season games. he has been deemed 100% healthy by surgeon and his shot velocity is crazy again. He has had almost 6-7 goals in pre-season. Just barely missing net. The accuracy will come back in time.

Blues need young dmen. Maybe Kravstov and Mathew roberston or just 2nd and braden schnieder.

- BlueTaco


i wouldnt do braden schneider for tarasenko and a 1st
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
Maybe Seattle not taking Gauthier was a blessing.

TJ's dream lives on of him having a big role with this team lol

- TPC


never not my boy
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
i wouldnt do braden schneider for tarasenko and a 1st
- picklerick



TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Oct 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
does this mean you guys will be looking to get another winger. Tarasenko has 2goals and 2 assists in 4 pre-season games. he has been deemed 100% healthy by surgeon and his shot velocity is crazy again. He has had almost 6-7 goals in pre-season. Just barely missing net. The accuracy will come back in time.

Blues need young dmen. Maybe Kravstov and Mathew roberston or just 2nd and braden schnieder.

- BlueTaco

Tarasenko for Hajek. Done.
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Oct 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
So just toss away a top 10 pick for minimal value?
- TPC



Would he still have a ton of value playing in the AHL after not making the club again and already once bolting to Russia because he wasn't happy?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
Would he still have a ton of value playing in the AHL after not making the club again and already once bolting to Russia because he wasn't happy?
- Rangers99

Yea if he was producing in both spots
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
Isles hello
- BINGO!

dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Oct 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
Would he still have a ton of value playing in the AHL after not making the club again and already once bolting to Russia because he wasn't happy?
- Rangers99

He could have a career as a KHL legend who remained NYR property forever.
ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Oct 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
There was NO excuse for Keeping Hajek up and sending Kravs down, We all know the history of how and why we got Hajek, but that regime and ship has sailed.

But, Kravs need to stop acting like a 5 year old. What is the team supposed to do, treat him differently than everyone else? That's where locker room problems start. He only has 20 career games under his belt.

We sent a bunch of young talented kids down, they understand, and accepted it, I haven't seen Zac Jones demanding a trade
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Oct 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
There was NO excuse for Keeping Hajek up and sending Kravs down, We all know the history of how and why we got Hajek, but that regime and ship has sailed.

But, Kravs need to stop acting like a 5 year old. What is the team supposed to do, treat him differently than everyone else? That's where locker room problems start. He only has 20 career games under his belt.

We sent a bunch of young talented kids down, they understand, and accepted it, I haven't seen Zac Jones demanding a trade

- ELew11


Logic, stop it
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
Found this and I enjoyed it.

dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Oct 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
Found this and I enjoyed it.


- JRR1285

He hasn't earned that nose yet.
ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Oct 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
Logic, stop it
- Rangers99

.
Sorry
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Oct 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
He hasn't earned that nose yet.
- dashripdot

He stole it from Fauci.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 12 @ 1:00 PM ET

- Isles


BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Oct 12 @ 1:02 PM ET
i wouldnt do braden schneider for tarasenko and a 1st
- picklerick

ok we will see how this turns out when tarasenko puts up 30+goals 40+assists.

The blues are not gifting tarasenko. Not like rangers gifted buchnevich
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
it's like if a teacher has a very disruptive student and the teacher hits the student with a textbook.... is the student an bumhole? sure. was the teacher expected to handle that better and not commit a crime? absolutely. this is the nhl equivalent of a teacher hitting a disruptive student with a textbook
- picklerick

I don't know if this is the best analogy though.

The Rangers did the right thing in treating Kravstov like any other player and not giving him special treatment, when he didn't really earn it yet. In hindsight you wish they handled this a bit differently to try and retain him somehow, but what's the alternative? Keep him up here and healthy scratch him game 1 just for him to throw a fit then instead of now? Or force the new coach to play a guy who he doesn't feel gives him the best shot of winning opening night in order to appease an unproven prospect?

I would say it's more like your company hired someone with an Ivy League degree. You work your ass off, understand your job and role and accomplish all your day to day tasks, and go above and beyond. While the Ivy League guy goes on a 2 week vacation right after starting, does the bare minimum when he gets back, and then he gets the promotion and raise over you because of his degree and because the company doesn't want to lose someone with Ivy League credentials.
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Oct 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
Tarasenko for Hajek. Done.
- TheMessiah94


yeah no thanks blues dont need a shat lhd man who will never be top 4
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
ok we will see how this turns out when tarasenko puts up 30+goals 40+assists.

The blues are not gifting tarasenko. Not like rangers gifted buchnevich

- BlueTaco


why are you here
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
yeah no thanks blues dont need a shat lhd man who will never be top 4
- BlueTaco

Tarasenko for Hajek and a conditional 4th rounder in 2028
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
I don't know if this is the best analogy though.

The Rangers did the right thing in treating Kravstov like any other player and not giving him special treatment, when he didn't really earn it yet. In hindsight you wish they handled this a bit differently to try and retain him somehow, but what's the alternative? Keep him up here and healthy scratch him game 1 just for him to throw a fit then instead of now? Or force the new coach to play a guy who he doesn't feel gives him the best shot of winning opening night in order to appease an unproven prospect?

I would say it's more like your company hired someone with an Ivy League degree. You work your ass off, understand your job and role and accomplish all your day to day tasks, and go above and beyond. While the Ivy League guy goes on a 2 week vacation right after starting, does the bare minimum when he gets back, and then he gets the promotion and raise over you because of his degree and because the company doesn't want to lose someone with Ivy League credentials.

- rangerdanger94


i'm not saying they shouldve tried to retain him necessarily. Just don't do the thing that drives down his trade value more than literally anything else, which is allow it to deteriorate so fast and so publicly. the team is the teacher, which has the professional obligation of acting professionally (like the adult in the room), whereas kravtsov is the student who has rules to follow but is not held to the same professional standard that the team is.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 12 @ 1:08 PM ET

- BINGO!

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:11 PM ET
All those feelings of punching a wall for passing on Wahlstrom coming rushing back… doesn’t feel like this will end well.

Anyone have a guess on the return? Don’t see a 1st rounder. Pass on a 2nd rounder (he’s way more valuable than Andersson). Maybe a similar type player, drafted 1st round but hasn’t found his stride yet.

- TC88


I don't think he'll get that. Guy with limited NHL sample who refuses to earn his place and throws tantrums when he doesn't make the cut. Not exactly what GMs will want to deal with, despite his skill set.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
Im wondering if Kravtsov is still bitter about the Buchnevich trade.

Kravtsov, although had shown flashes of some solid skill, was always imo a tradeable asset.

As far as people beating him out. Gauthier did have a good preseason, however I think the shocker was Blais. Blais might have earned himself a spot up the lineup this pushing Kravtsov out.

I will trust the process. I have faith in Gallant.
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