It would just look like the playoffs all over again.
- bryant

Wonder who they’d bring up if he is hurt

They’d likely have to send Liljegren down after all if they need to replace Marner without him being on the LTIR

I’m not really hoping for anything. They’re not going to play a full year with 6 D. Let’s see what happens over the next 8 weeks.
- Canada Cup

Well when everyone’s healthy the leafs only have enough cap space for 1 extra player.

And my guess with Kase’s injury history they’ll go with a 13th forward and not a 7th defenceman.

Which means they’ll have to drop someone and it’s pretty safe to say it will be the guy who doesn’t have to clear waivers

I think it makes the idea of playing two rookies more likely. It would make sense to have Lilligren in a position where he can step in and play if necessary in the playoffs. If there was a huge gap between him and Dermott, I could see sitting him but there’s not really a lot more to Dermott and potentially more upside to Lilli. If someone goes down late in the year and he hasn’t played, they’re (frank)ed. (He was also 6th D at practice yesterday while Dermott was 7th)
- Canada Cup

Agreed.
Dermotts play leaves a lot to be desired and lili could easily surpass him.
He'll get playing time for sure....until he messes up

Allan Walsh
@walsha
With the cap gymnastics going today, it’s a great reminder how bad the salary cap is for players and the game in general. There is no reason we can’t have a soft cap, luxury tax and meaningful revenue sharing. This is the system that makes sense for everyone, even the owners.

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- GreatGigInTheSky

Agree

Jonas Siegel
@jonassiegel
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Concerning moment for the Leafs at practice: Mitch Marner forced to depart not long after a collision with Wayne Simmonds.
- TheMussel

https://twitter.com/markh.../1447969146638045186?s=21

Looks like simmonds gets in the head.

Concussion maybe?

https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1447969146638045186?s=21

Looks like simmonds gets in the head.

Concussion maybe?
- bryant

5 games for Kadri

Allan Walsh
@walsha
With the cap gymnastics going today, it’s a great reminder how bad the salary cap is for players and the game in general. There is no reason we can’t have a soft cap, luxury tax and meaningful revenue sharing. This is the system that makes sense for everyone, even the owners.

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- GreatGigInTheSky

He's right. They really should move away from the hard cap, it actually holds back the league a bit. They should have a luxury cap.

With all that being said, Bettman will never do it.

5 games for Kadri
- Canada Cup

i lold

https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1447969146638045186?s=21

Looks like simmonds gets in the head.

Concussion maybe?
- bryant

Man oh man I hope they’re just being cautious…. If he is hurt then that will make the leafs drop Liljegren to bring up someone like Robertson or Semyonov up

He's right. They really should move away from the hard cap, it actually holds back the league a bit. They should have a luxury cap.

With all that being said, Bettman will never do it.
- Archaic

Sigh.

Bettman works for the owners. The owners tell him what to do, and he implements it.

The salary cap was brought on by Jeremy Jacobs and Ed Snider.

Man oh man I hope they’re just being cautious…. If he is hurt then that will make the leafs drop Liljegren to bring up someone like Robertson or Semyonov up
- Dozzer

From the way he walked off, doubt he misses a shift.

He's right. They really should move away from the hard cap, it actually holds back the league a bit. They should have a luxury cap.

With all that being said, Bettman will never do it.
- Archaic

Like it or not the poorer teams would never be competitive because they’d never want to use a luxury cap to their advantage and the richer teams would.

Unlike other sports that would basically split the league into two types of teams.

https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1447969146638045186?s=21

Looks like simmonds gets in the head.

Concussion maybe?
- bryant

Severe case of Muzzinitis.

He's already dead.

Sigh.

Bettman works for the owners. The owners tell him what to do, and he implements it.

The salary cap was brought on by Jeremy Jacobs and Ed Snider.
- Atomic Wedgie

He does for sure, but he also provides suggestions, and get approvals. Its not just like he is some puppet.

From the way he walked off, doubt he misses a shift.
- winsix

Unless he does have a minor concussion.

It’s not enough to truly hurt him but it is enough to make him sit out a game or two

Well when everyone’s healthy the leafs only have enough cap space for 1 extra player.

And my guess with Kase’s injury history they’ll go with a 13th forward and not a 7th defenceman.

Which means they’ll have to drop someone and it’s pretty safe to say it will be the guy who doesn’t have to clear waivers
- Dozzer

They will not want go into the playoffs without someone - and right now now the someone is Lilligren - getting significant playing time in case of injury or poopty play. I’d be surprised if we don’t see a car trade around the time Mik is expected back after they’ve had time to look at guys.

Like it or not the poorer teams would never be competitive because they’d never want to use a luxury cap to their advantage and the richer teams would.

Unlike other sports that would basically split the league into two types of teams.
- Dozzer

But the luxury taxes would be split amongst the have-not teams.

So what they give up in on-ice competitiveness, they gain in balance sheet competitiveness.

Sigh.

Bettman works for the owners. The owners tell him what to do, and he implements it.

The salary cap was brought on by Jeremy Jacobs and Ed Snider.
- Atomic Wedgie

The problem is, that the welfare team owners (majority of US teams) are using transfer payments to pay for salaries they could otherwise not afford (if they were running a real world business) So there is no motivation for these teams to buy into a soft cap that would give teams like NYR, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Boston and Philly a huge advantage to be instantly better than most welfare teams.

They will not want go into the playoffs without someone - and right now now the someone is Lilligren - getting significant playing time in case of injury or poopty play. I’d be surprised if we don’t see a car trade around the time Mik is expected back after they’ve had time to look at guys.
- Canada Cup

Trade who? Which forward would you give up in order to bring up Liljegren and another league minimum forward?

But the luxury taxes would be split amongst the have-not teams.

So what they give up in on-ice competitiveness, they gain in balance sheet competitiveness.
- Atomic Wedgie

Too bad the on ice competitiveness is what sells the tickets

Like it or not the poorer teams would never be competitive because they’d never want to use a luxury cap to their advantage and the richer teams would.

Unlike other sports that would basically split the league into two types of teams.
- Dozzer

The NBAs model works significantly better then the NHLs and MLB. There is still a cap, but there is some allowance for flexibilty.

The NBAs model works significantly better then the NHLs and MLB. There is still a cap, but there is some allowance for flexibilty.
- Archaic

That’s because every team in the league is popular enough to use it

Which is not the case in the NHL

But the luxury taxes would be split amongst the have-not teams.

So what they give up in on-ice competitiveness, they gain in balance sheet competitiveness.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think they lose more than they gain. If you fall into perma-basketcaseness, it would just be too hard to draw ticket sales. I don’t know what kind of luxury tax split you’d need to make up for that. I think they’re all better off just screwing the players a little, a little, a little

Marner going to miss any games?


My pool needs to know.

Too bad the on ice competitiveness is what sells the tickets
- Dozzer

Not everywhere. Leafs would sell out every game regardless of opponent, NYR, Vancouver, Boston and Philly same IMO.

A team like Arizona, Columbus or even the Panthers couldn't even afford to make the Cap Floor if they were not being subsidized by the wealthy teams.