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aries1976
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Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM ET

- Dozzer


with Brooks claimed and with Mikheyev out,
does Amadio and Semyonov make the team ?


Dozzer
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Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM ET
with Brooks claimed and with Mikheyev out,
does Amadio and Semyonov make the team ?

- aries1976


Semyonov has been put down to the marlies but Amadio will be playing this week (Matthews not playing the first 3 games so they’re restructuring the lines a touch) and that should mean Amadio plays since he’ll be the 13th guy til Mikheyev is back in 2 months
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 9:21 PM ET
so this Brooks fella, is he any good..? not asking specifically for the context in MTL but in general, I'm aware the habs' depth at center right now is non-existent, so basically everyone has a chance lol
aries1976
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Oct 11 @ 9:23 PM ET
Semyonov has been put down to the marlies but Amadio will be playing this week (Matthews not playing the first 3 games so they’re restructuring the lines a touch) and that should mean Amadio plays since he’ll be the 13th guy til Mikheyev is back in 2 months
- Dozzer


i kinda feel like he is the first up if another player goes down.
aries1976
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Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM ET
so this Brooks fella, is he any good..? not asking specifically for the context in MTL but in general, I'm aware the habs' depth at center right now is non-existent, so basically everyone has a chance lol
- Pat1993


has done nothing to tick me off as a player, should be alright for your team.
can provide offence, just a numbers game here
Dozzer
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Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM ET
so this Brooks fella, is he any good..? not asking specifically for the context in MTL but in general, I'm aware the habs' depth at center right now is non-existent, so basically everyone has a chance lol
- Pat1993


Decent player… not an all star or anything but he can play well.

What line is he supposed to get with you guys?
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Oct 11 @ 9:26 PM ET
i kinda feel like he is the first up if another player goes down.
- aries1976


Oh for sure… Semyonov doesn’t have to clear waivers so that’s a no brainer choice for sure
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM ET
has done nothing to tick me off as a player, should be alright for your team.
can provide offence, just a numbers game here

- aries1976



thanks. I think at this point they just need a guy who can win faceoffs and is defensively responsible
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 9:30 PM ET
Decent player… not an all star or anything but he can play well.

What line is he supposed to get with you guys?

- Dozzer


it appears to be a bit of a cluster(frank), they're probably going to do some experimentation early in the season for the 4th line C role, as no one really stood out during training camp.
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Oct 11 @ 9:34 PM ET
Since due to Mikheyev being hurt the leafs were able to hold onto Liljegren I wonder which games he gets to play? From what I’ve read he’s the 7th guy in game 1 but the leafs are considering playing him in a few odd games.

I’m wondering if Keefe likes having him here so Dermott doesn’t get comfortable and thinking there’s no risk of not being a starter (who Keefe seems to pressure a lot now telling him to step up)
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Oct 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
it appears to be a bit of a cluster(frank), they're probably going to do some experimentation early in the season for the 4th line C role, as no one really stood out during training camp.
- Pat1993


That would make sense… he has a bit of offensive skill but even in the AHL his top year was 40P but he does play decently defensively

He does have 8P in 18 games as an NHLer tho so who knows maybe he does pretty good for the habs
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Oct 11 @ 9:47 PM ET
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Really good if you are a Rush fan
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 9:50 PM ET
That would make sense… he has a bit of offensive skill but even in the AHL his top year was 40P but he does play decently defensively

He does have 8P in 18 games as an NHLer tho so who knows maybe he does pretty good for the habs

- Dozzer


yeah, I really see this as a "trying to compensate for the lack of depth and generate a bit of competition internally" move by Bergevin but I guess you never know, he could have a breakthrough in MTL and haunt the leafs for years to come...
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Oct 11 @ 9:57 PM ET
yeah, I really see this as a "trying to compensate for the lack of depth and generate a bit of competition internally" move by Bergevin but I guess you never know, he could have a breakthrough in MTL and haunt the leafs for years to come...
- Pat1993




Tbh I’m not against the guy but I do believe the leafs depth at C was just too much for him to make the team full time.

Until Matthews signs back in his home country after his contract and JT is getting old then everyone around here will likely bring up losing Brooks for nothing and how horrible it was. Should be a fun time
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 10:08 PM ET


Tbh I’m not against the guy but I do believe the leafs depth at C was just too much for him to make the team full time.

Until Matthews signs back in his home country after his contract and JT is getting old then everyone around here will likely bring up losing Brooks for nothing and how horrible it was. Should be a fun time

- Dozzer



yeah, I guess you could say the center position on the leafs' roster is "okay-ish"...


(btw that was sarcastic, kinda hard to bash on the guys you have there lol).

and this might almost sound impossible but this year has the potential to have even more complaining than usual by fans in MTL, especially if they play like poop while guys like Kotkaniemi and Danault do well with their respective teams.
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Oct 11 @ 10:24 PM ET
yeah, I guess you could say the center position on the leafs' roster is "okay-ish"...


(btw that was sarcastic, kinda hard to bash on the guys you have there lol).

and this might almost sound impossible but this year has the potential to have even more complaining than usual by fans in MTL, especially if they play like poop while guys like Kotkaniemi and Danault do well with their respective teams.

- Pat1993


It sucks the way you lost the bolded one but at the same time I can understand not paying him 6 million too… I mean is he even a half a point a game guy? Roughly around there? That’s an overpayment imo

And the fact that the over 5 million lengthy contract was given to Danault I understand letting him go…playing til his mid thirties for that? Yikes…. That’s the same reason I’m happy the leafs let Hyman walk. That is definitely an overpayment by the Kings

Altho they may have been tough calls I do think the habs made the right ones
aries1976
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Oct 11 @ 10:31 PM ET
Since due to Mikheyev being hurt the leafs were able to hold onto Liljegren I wonder which games he gets to play? From what I’ve read he’s the 7th guy in game 1 but the leafs are considering playing him in a few odd games.

I’m wondering if Keefe likes having him here so Dermott doesn’t get comfortable and thinking there’s no risk of not being a starter (who Keefe seems to pressure a lot now telling him to step up)

- Dozzer


I can't stand Dermott, I just feel he is mediocre at everything... I think he is an alright piece in a future trade, or a waiver fodder to another team by the deadline, unless he shocks us all.
Monkeypunk
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Oct 11 @ 10:34 PM ET
No he didn’t

Brooks had 1 whole assist in 4 games while Amadio had a goal and three assists in 4 games.

Couple that with the fact the Amadio has played 173 games while Brooks only has 18

Pretty straightforward no brainer on who gets chosen as the 13th guy

- Dozzer


Weighing in to echo what's being said. I like Brooks just like most people here. He was a decent 4th line centre and he worked fairly well between Thornton and Spezza, which honestly can't be that easy of an assignment (the Thornton part at any rate).

I watched the preseason games like most here . . . Amadio was one of the most noticeable players. Things didn't always bounce his way in terms of results (his xGF was a team best 81.76% in camp), but if you tell players that camp means something and a guy performs like Amadio did? He earned a spot over Brooks.

I am surprised Brooks was claimed, to be honest.
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Oct 11 @ 10:35 PM ET
I can't stand Dermott, I just feel he is mediocre at everything... I think he is an alright piece in a future trade, or a waiver fodder to another team by the deadline, unless he shocks us all.
- aries1976


I can see what you’re saying but I can also see why a team that considers themselves cup contenders won’t want to rely on a defence that has two rookies.

I’m hoping that since he’s being paired with Sandin that he can back off and just play a simple shutdown role since his partner is far more capable than him moving the puck into the offensive zone. Basically just get the damn puck and pass it Dermott.
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Oct 11 @ 10:38 PM ET
Weighing in to echo what's being said. I like Brooks just like most people here. He was a decent 4th line centre and he worked fairly well between Thornton and Spezza, which honestly can't be that easy of an assignment (the Thornton part at any rate).

I watched the preseason games like most here . . . Amadio was one of the most noticeable players. Things didn't always bounce his way in terms of results (his xGF was a team best 81.76% in camp), but if you tell players that camp means something and a guy performs like Amadio did? He earned a spot over Brooks.

I am surprised Brooks was claimed, to be honest.

- Monkeypunk


I didn’t expect him to be claimed either but I but I can also see why the habs did. They need a bottom six C who doesn’t earn much atm. I hope he doesn’t win games for them but I hope he has a semi decent season…. He’s earned his shot to have one

But I do agree that keeping Amadio was the right call, great preseason, more experienced, and bigger and tougher
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 10:39 PM ET
It sucks the way you lost the bolded one but at the same time I can understand not paying him 6 million too… I mean is he even a half a point a game guy? Roughly around there? That’s an overpayment imo

And the fact that the over 5 million lengthy contract was given to Danault I understand letting him go…playing til his mid thirties for that? Yikes…. That’s the same reason I’m happy the leafs let Hyman walk. That is definitely an overpayment by the Kings

Altho they may have been tough calls I do think the habs made the right ones

- Dozzer


I tend to agree with this, although in Danault's case even if he wasn't necessarily racking up the points you could argue that shutting down the opponent's top scorers can be very valuable, so it isn't the worst contract ever either imho. as for KK it was way too much money for what he was bringing up to this point, so yeah they had to let him walk, but the kid definitely has potential. I'm hoping he doesn't become too good because we'll never hear the end of it lol
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Oct 11 @ 10:46 PM ET
I tend to agree with this, although in Danault's case even if he wasn't necessarily racking up the points you could argue that shutting down the opponent's top scorers can be very valuable, so it isn't the worst contract ever either imho. as for KK it was way too much money for what he was bringing up to this point, so yeah they had to let him walk, but the kid definitely has potential. I'm hoping he doesn't become too good because we'll never hear the end of it lol
- Pat1993


Lol oh I know…. But at least you can defend why you let him walk lol

And I get what you’re saying about Danault but like I said I put that on par with Hyman…. Let them sign somewhere else long term for 5 and half million and then find a replacement who can essentially do the same job for less than half that price. Ritchie got 3 goals in 3 preseason games as well so he even out scored Hyman. Gritty players who get good stats due to playing with stars should not be overpaid and a well run team should know this.
Pat1993
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Oct 11 @ 11:10 PM ET
Lol oh I know…. But at least you can defend why you let him walk lol

And I get what you’re saying about Danault but like I said I put that on par with Hyman…. Let them sign somewhere else long term for 5 and half million and then find a replacement who can essentially do the same job for less than half that price. Ritchie got 3 goals in 3 preseason games as well so he even out scored Hyman. Gritty players who get good stats due to playing with stars should not be overpaid and a well run team should know this.

- Dozzer



decent centermen seem to be more of a rare commodity these days, unfortunately I think Danault's shutdown role won't be so easily replaced.
aries1976
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Oct 11 @ 11:12 PM ET
I can see what you’re saying but I can also see why a team that considers themselves cup contenders won’t want to rely on a defence that has two rookies.

I’m hoping that since he’s being paired with Sandin that he can back off and just play a simple shutdown role since his partner is far more capable than him moving the puck into the offensive zone. Basically just get the damn puck and pass it Dermott.

- Dozzer


And that's the hope..

He is the casualty if a dman is brought in, considering no major injuries of course, Liljegren is an obvious option too, but he doesn't have the starting spot.
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Oct 11 @ 11:18 PM ET
decent centermen seem to be more of a rare commodity these days, unfortunately I think Danault's shutdown role won't be so easily replaced.
- Pat1993


Well hopefully Brooks can play decently for you defensively then. You guys may end up liking him quite a bit if he does. He’s a plus 5 for his 18 games in the NHL, so perhaps he’s not too bad at that
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