There has to be better options on the waiver wire then Garrett freaking Wilson.
- Just5

Imo seems similar to the Stewart deal two years ago. And why I wouldn’t. Nice to have that contract flexibility for waivers, trades, or college signings.

Imo seems similar to the Stewart deal two years ago. And why I wouldn’t. Nice to have that contract flexibility for waivers, trades, or college signings.
- Peter Richards

correct. No need for an NHL contract for a slug like Wilson.

Flyers dump the puck a lot compared to other teams imo. I just do not like this coaching staff. Do not trust them to get the best out of what the players have to offer.
- hello it's me 2050

It’s why theres just very little excitement with this group. It’s just not good enough from the ground up.

Thanks for letting me know he lost his brother.

If the flyers have any success, do you think Hayes will be a big part of it?
- hello it's me 2050

I’m not sure I understand the context of your question...do you mean inspirationally, or how Hayes performs whenever it is he returns from injury?

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Practice Day, Hayes, Phantoms,TIFH and More
- bmeltzer

FWIW I have a White Sittler (at that time) Home Flyers #27 Jersey... with a Captain's 'C' on it... a ltad snug but still, an interesting jersey to possess.

I’m not sure I understand the context of your question...do you mean inspirationally, or how Hayes performs whenever it is he returns from injury?
- BroadSTmayhem

The flyers need Hayes to produce and be very good player if they are to have any success imo. So from a team standpoint it isn't fine if he has a bad year.

Now the reasons for him having a potentially down year are all valid. Brothers death, 2 core surgeries in 5 months. That is all I am saying.

The flyers need Hayes to produce and be very good player if they are to have any success imo. So from a team standpoint it isn't fine if he has a bad year.

Now the reasons for him having a potentially down year are all valid. Brothers death, 2 core surgeries in 5 months. That is all I am saying.
- hello it's me 2050

I agree 100% with all of this. Thanks for clarifying.

Maybe the trip to Lehigh Valley will light a fire under Frosty's bottom. I didnt see the game, but it sounds like he took Cam's advice and try to dominate. I have watched him on TV/streaming since the juniors, and while his skillset is high level, his motor has never been. Maybe he finally understands this. Agree with Bill that his higher risk style of play needs to be accommodated, despite the occasional turnover.

Many long years after a start to the “retool” and the best young talent to be infused is Wilson?

A+ development.

Curious what the media shills will say if the Flyers have a hard time this season. Will the narrative finally turn to those truly at fault?

Better? Probably. Available for the NHL minimum on a two-way? Maybe, maybe not.
- bmeltzer

Does this not say something about the Flyer's inability to manage the salary cap?

The flyers need Hayes to produce and be very good player if they are to have any success imo. So from a team standpoint it isn't fine if he has a bad year.

Now the reasons for him having a potentially down year are all valid. Brothers death, 2 core surgeries in 5 months. That is all I am saying.
- hello it's me 2050

Hayes is the definition of the current Flyers era. A likeable secondary player the team is desperately trying to market to its fanbase.

Thankfully, most Flyer fans aren’t as stupid and see actual young stars being introduced every season on other teams.

This thing is a old Ford van, that the marketing/beats are trying to sell off as something more.

The Bullpoop is just being exposed.

Many long years after a start to the “retool” and the best young talent to be infused is Wilson?

A+ development.

Curious what the media shills will say if the Flyers have a hard time this season. Will the narrative finally turn to those truly at fault?
- FlyerFan3260

The Hayes injury will be the main excuse. They will find something. Development is def an issue. This team has problems developing good players into star players imo.

Hayes is the definition of the current Flyers era. A likeable secondary player the team is desperately trying to market to its fanbase.

Thankfully, most Flyer fans aren’t as stupid and see actual young stars being introduced every season on other teams.

This thing is a old Ford van, that the marketing/beats are trying to sell off as something more.

The Bullpoop is just being exposed.
- FlyerFan3260

A conversion van with a bed or a stripped down econline!!!!

The Hayes injury will be the min excuse. They will find something. Development is def an issue. This team has problems developing good players into star players imo.
- hello it's me 2050

It’s not even the star players, which I hammer on about. For anyone who has watched this game for a long time, the idea that the current team maximizes on its young players potential is folly.

I’m just curious who is next to be freed. Konecny?

They wasted Giroux and Jake’s prime years. Couturier is lined up perfectly to have done the same, but changes. Don’t forget those changes made this summer.

Alas for nothing, with the same morons in charge of the operation. The lackeys at some point will have to turn their attention on them, because even the most casual Flyer fans are starting to see the truth.

What the hell happened to Linus Sandin?? I mean, I thought he had a chance to make the Flyers and now he is on the 4th line of the Phantoms. Who makes these decisions to sign these guys? Is Dave Brown still a head scout? They seem to have some serious issues evaluating talent.
- Phillywhiteout

Lol and people thought he was a lock to make the flyers last season. Without playing any nhl games.

Dude lost his brother, for f-sake. None of us can say with any certainty what Hayes’ year would have been like, injury or no injury, given his mindset. Having lost a brother, it’s day to day in terms of how you get on with your day.

I actually think his most recent physical injury might turn out to be a blessing in disguise, as it might enable him to better deal with the severe emotional injury he sustained with the loss of his brother, without having to worry about playing.

It’s not even the star players, which I hammer on about. For anyone who has watched this game for a long time, the idea that the current team maximizes on its young players potential is folly.

I’m just curious who is next to be freed. Konecny?

They wasted Giroux and Jake’s prime years. Couturier is lined up perfectly to have done the same, but changes. Don’t forget those changes made this summer.

Alas for nothing, with the same morons in charge of the operation. The lackeys at some point will have to turn their attention on them, because even the most casual Flyer fans are starting to see the truth.
- FlyerFan3260

Cant wait to see the attendance this year. Place has the potential to be empty. What is there really to be excited about with this team?

I actually think his most recent physical injury might turn out to be a blessing in disguise, as it might enable him to better deal with the severe emotional injury he sustained with the loss of his brother, without having to worry about playing.
- copelal

Just depends on the person really.

For the injury. When one side goes quite often there are issues with the other. May be good that it happened early in the season. Time to heal properly.

Cant wait to see the attendance this year. Place has the potential to be empty. What is there really to be excited about with this team?
- hello it's me 2050

Hart and Farabee?

The style of play is as low event as one can get, the fear the middle of the ice and opponents know the game plan by now. Clog the boards and the transition game is easily stopped.

There is a reason why they have had to fabricate Gritty and push personality above talent with Atkinson/Hayes.

I just wish, that those who are allowed more access to the team would dare to write something critical instead of fluff, trying to placate the fanbase.

This team is closer to the bottom of the league than the best clubs. 2010 was a decade ago, and some real journalism would be appreciated.

Those who actually follow the club more than the nonsense spewed by Jackson in game wold appreciate it.

There is power in fan and media perception/messaging, the NYR rebuild shows that. Instead of trying to drum up a dream of competency, they choose to insult us that everything is fine. People aren’t falling for it anymore. People who invest real time and money into this team know better.

Hart and Farabee?

The style of play is as low event as one can get, the fear the middle of the ice and opponents know the game plan by now. Clog the boards and the transition game is easily stopped.

There is a reason why they have had to fabricate Gritty and push personality above talent with Atkinson/Hayes.

I just wish, those those who are allowed more access to the team would dare to write something critical instead off fluff trying to placate the fanbase.

This team is closer to the bottom of the league than the best clubs. 2010 was a decade ago, and some real journalism would be appreciated.

Those who actually follow the club more than the nonsense spewed by Jackson in game wold appreciate it.

There is power in fan and media perception/messaging, the NYR rebuild shows that. Instead of trying to drum of a dream of competency, they choose to insult us that everything is fine. People aren’t falling for it anymore.
- FlyerFan3260

Not seeing how those 2 bring much excitement. Are you going to go to a game just to watch either of them? I am not.

They have no style of play. They have zero identity. Yes it is closer to bottom I agree.

Not seeing how those 2 bring much excitement. Are you going to go to a game just to watch either of them? I am not.

They have no style of play. They have zero identity. Yes it is closer to bottom I agree.
- hello it's me 2050

No, but that’s likely the best. Giroux is not the same at his age, and that’s perfectly normal. Couturier for all his contributes isn’t the most creative player, and the league doesn’t market him for a reason. He’s effective, but well… somewhat boring.

They don’t need to be a team of superstars to be effective, but when Giroux who was drafted in 2006 remains the most dynamic and creative forward. The club will struggle to compete, and draw interest.

People mock the Oilers, but they have as much recent success if not more than the Flyers. At least they have an exciting player or two to watch. The Flyers have what exactly?

Drafting 13th again while being a capped out team isn’t moving this thing anywhere.

I actually think his most recent physical injury might turn out to be a blessing in disguise, as it might enable him to better deal with the severe emotional injury he sustained with the loss of his brother, without having to worry about playing.
- copelal

??? Blessing in disquise???Likely the best thing for him would have been to get back on the ice and be with his team mates. I dont see 2 surgeries in 5 months as a blessing in any way.

Flyers dump the puck a lot compared to other teams imo. I just do not like this coaching staff. Do not trust them to get the best out of what the players have to offer.
- hello it's me 2050

dump and chase is how you beat the trap we used to play a team a lot that trapped all the time

dump and chase is how you beat the trap we used to play a team a lot that trapped all the time
- 2Real

To be an effective dump and chase team, a team needs to have a lineup of primarily above average skaters. In today’s game at least.

The Flyers haven’t valued skating nearly as much as they should going back to when they signed Hatcher/Rathje.

Dumping it in and not being able to retrieve is just giving the puck away.

To be an effective dump and chase team, a team needs to have a lineup of primarily above average skaters. In today’s game at least.

The Flyers haven’t valued skating nearly as much as they should going back to when they signed Hatcher/Rathje.

Dumping it in and not being able to retrieve is just giving the puck away.
- FlyerFan3260

yea i never though we had the right personnel to pull off the dump and chase