He was a marshmallow.
- LeftCoaster

Dave Donut.

Well.... you did post this....



These are all stats categories being used by you as "context" in an argument you've misunderstood.
- boonerbuck

fixating on the minutae to obscure from the real issue. The debate was started in ranking GMs. It has now devolved into winning %.

Fine, JB is a better GM than Hal Lycoe (whoever he is) because you can't argue with winning percentage regardless of era.

I didn't mention any stats and feel that context always matters. You responded to my post.
- RealityChecker

What context? Stats say otherwise & context is of no matter in this case. Wrong is wrong.

sorry I got busy! I’m on my phone but I’ll do my best to debate with you.

Of the 12 GM’s in Canucks history only six of them have four or more seasons under them. Hal Laycoe was GM for four months, of course he doesn’t have many wins or loses lol.

Quinn
Nonis
Burke
Gillis
Benning

Compare apples to apples…
- LeftCoaster

Pay attention he doesn't care for apples

lol wow. I've been in Greens corner but this year is the kicker. He needs to diversify as a coach or git gone.
- LordHumungous

I still don't get the fan and media outrage when he didn't have a new contract . It was a gift being given to us and someone stole it from right under our feet

It is the time of year for apple, be happy you didn't get half a bag of pumpkin.
- A_SteamingLombardi

😂😂

It is the time of year for apple, be happy you didn't get half a bag of pumpkin.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Green apples though...after 2 or 3 in a row, it brings back memories of sitting in a crab apple tree when I was a kid gorging on them and then getting the terrible sh!ts after which they smell pretty much the same.

I'm going to try a Werther's caramel with the green ones. Caramel Apples are good....

What context? Stats say otherwise & context is of no matter in this case. Wrong is wrong.
- Nighthawk

I posted an independent thought saying that you need to look at era (regular season, OT, loser point etc) when looking at win/loss stats.

I meant that in relation to the bigger/original argument of ranking GMs.

Booner wanted to take it to Lefty's point but I said that context always matters insomuch that I did not care about records (as numbers), I look at the whole. Gillis' record might be the best but it doesn't mean the best. Remember, my post was not answering any point.

I slept all day so judging by the comment section SFA happened with the Canucks today

I posted an independent thought saying that you need to look at era (regular season, OT, loser point etc) when looking at win/loss stats.

I meant that in relation to the bigger/original argument of ranking GMs.

Booner wanted to take it to Lefty's point but I said that context always matters insomuch that I did not care about records (as numbers), I look at the whole. Gillis' record might be the best but it doesn't mean the best. Remember, my post was not answering any point.
- RealityChecker

I understand your point of view but Lefty & Booner were referencing winning not rankings overall.

Imo Lefty is only showing once more that JB can never be more than the worst ever in his opinion no matter what he does.

fixating on the minutae to obscure from the real issue. The debate was started in ranking GMs. It has now devolved into winning %.

Fine, JB is a better GM than Hal Lycoe (whoever he is) because you can't argue with winning percentage regardless of era.
- RealityChecker

Lefty's claim was "If only ranked for winning, Benning would be at the bottom." That's what I debated with those comments.

I slept all day so judging by the comment section SFA happened with the Canucks today
- VANTEL

I'll tell you what happened to me today. I cleaned out the freezer above my fridge this morning, I found a block of marbled cheddar, now I never buy marbled cheese so I was wondering how it got there and then I noticed the best before date, may 17, 2002, holy fuck.

I understand your point of view but Lefty & Booner were referencing winning not rankings overall.

Imo Lefty is only showing once more that JB can never be more than the worst ever in his opinion no matter what he does.
- Nighthawk

RC knows this. He's just being difficult.

I'll tell you what happened to me today. I cleaned out the freezer above my fridge this morning, I found a block of marbled cheddar, now I never buy marbled cheese so I was wondering how it got there and then I noticed the best before date, may 17, 2002, holy fuck.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'll tell you what happened to me today. I cleaned out the freezer above my fridge this morning, I found a block of marbled cheddar, now I never buy marbled cheese so I was wondering how it got there and then I noticed the best before date, may 17, 2002, holy fuck.
- A_SteamingLombardi

RC knows this. He's just being difficult.

- boonerbuck

Or being obtuse or getting your goat 😂

I understand your point of view but Lefty & Booner were referencing winning not rankings overall.

Imo Lefty is only showing once more that JB can never be more than the worst ever in his opinion no matter what he does.
- Nighthawk

I'm of the opinion that's it's subjective and the stats don't mean anything here when the eras and rules are different.

I'm no JB fan but I've been a Canuck fan long enough to know he's not the worst but part of me thinks that most of the 'bad' GMs got much less rope and much, much less financial support.

I come back to it's a subjective opinion and now the focus is on "win/loss" which is tangential to the real argument but central to the hockeybuzz bs.

I posted an independent thought saying that you need to look at era (regular season, OT, loser point etc) when looking at win/loss stats.

I meant that in relation to the bigger/original argument of ranking GMs.

Booner wanted to take it to Lefty's point but I said that context always matters insomuch that I did not care about records (as numbers), I look at the whole. Gillis' record might be the best but it doesn't mean the best. Remember, my post was not answering any point.
- RealityChecker

If your comment I quoted was referencing the discussion previous and not to do Lefty and my comments, then my bad. My comments were about the later though.

I'll tell you what happened to me today. I cleaned out the freezer above my fridge this morning, I found a block of marbled cheddar, now I never buy marbled cheese so I was wondering how it got there and then I noticed the best before date, may 17, 2002, holy fuck.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You and your damn fridge issues. At least you didn't lose all your meat this time.

If your comment I quoted was referencing the discussion previous and not to do Lefty and my comments, then my bad. My comments were about the later though.
- boonerbuck

Go to page 6 and read my posts down. I've been consistent in what I've been saying.

Classic Punk on Top of the Pops

You and your damn fridge issues. At least you didn't lose all your meat this time.
- RealityChecker

Who uses the freezer in their fridge when you have a chest freezer? It had to be bought by the woman I was living with at the time and she passed to cancer in 08 so this is bringing back all kinds of memories.

Who uses the freezer in their fridge when you have a chest freezer? It had to be bought by the woman I was living with at the time and she passed to cancer in 08 so this is bringing back all kinds of memories.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I was going to suggest cleaning out the fridge but you might not be emotionally ready for that gastric archaeology.

I'm of the opinion that's it's subjective and the stats don't mean anything here when the eras and rules are different.

I'm no JB fan but I've been a Canuck fan long enough to know he's not the worst but part of me thinks that most of the 'bad' GMs got much less rope and much, much less financial support.

I come back to it's a subjective opinion and now the focus is on "win/loss" which is tangential to the real argument but central to the hockeybuzz bs.
- RealityChecker

Yes I agree much less rope. I’ll add JB had a lot of cleaning up to do & more of a unique mess. That said he still has to produce & it’ll always come down to that.