He was also playing top pairing minutes with Sandin on the Marlies so we could potentially that pairing with the big club at some point.
- dmnted

Honestly my guess is that they let Rielly walk, put Sandin in his spot, and let Liljegren take Sandin’s spot on the bottom pairing.

Then once Brodie’s contract is up Liljegren will get bumped up to play with Sandin again

Back to Lilljgren. If this guy can't lock down a 7th spot in his 5th year as a pro, it's time to move past this guy.
- fifty__missions

Watch him hockey. The only way he won't be apart of this team for years to come is if the team foolishly trades him.

Liljegren really should have a spot on the team already, but they can send him down freely and that way he'll also get lots of ice time, instead of being a 7th.

The key point to remember is GO LEAFS GO

Watch him hockey. The only way he won't be apart of this team for years to come is if the team foolishly trades him.

Liljegren really should have a spot on the team already, but they can send him down freely and that way he'll also get lots of ice time, instead of being a 7th.
- GreatGigInTheSky

This

Even tho you continue to ignore me they don’t have the cap space for a 7th d man and they’d rather have him playing top pairing minutes anyways.

Believe me if they could afford a 7th d man it wouldn’t be him, they don’t want a top end 22 year old player sitting most of the season
- Dozzer

Now you're coming around to my point. Which is very, very simple:


They don't have the cap space to be a Cup contender.

Wait, wait, wait.

Keefe has just given us a definitive statement on Liljegren:

David Alter
@dalter

Keefe on Liljegren: "Lily's an important guy for us in the organization and we've said that for a long time and I'm happy how he's progressed. "

4:31 PM · Oct 7, 2021·TweetDeck
- Atomic Wedgie

Liljegren has done nothing but get better and better every single year with the Marlies. He's been their best player for 3 years, and that includes when Sandin was there. It's just unfortunate that he suffered a few pretty serious injuries that slowed down his inevitable rise to the Leafs roster.

Just gotta kick Holl's useless ass to the curb and slot Liljegren in.

A team that considers themselves cup contenders would never want two rookie d men

It’s really that bloody simple
- Dozzer

Sure they would.
Put them on two different lines.
Lili probably starts in the AHL and then comes up at some time depending on how he does.

Liljegren has done nothing but get better and better every single year with the Marlies. He's been their best player for 3 years, and that includes when Sandin was there. It's just unfortunate that he suffered a few pretty serious injuries that slowed down his inevitable rise to the Leafs roster.

Just gotta kick Holl's useless ass to the curb and slot Liljegren in.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Liljegren can’t play Holl’s shutdown game

Now you're coming around to my point. Which is very, very simple:


They don't have the cap space to be a Cup contender.
- fifty__missions

How does that make sense?

Sure they would.
Put them on two different lines.
Lili probably starts in the AHL and then comes up at some time depending on how he does.
- Fakepartofme

Name one cup winner that had two rookie defensemen

Don’t bother trying you won’t be able to

How does that make sense?
- GreatGigInTheSky

It doesn’t… according to him they need a guy wearing a suit and sitting to watch the game

Now you're coming around to my point. Which is very, very simple:


They don't have the cap space to be a Cup contender.
- fifty__missions

Having a guy who is not on the ice isn’t going to help you win the cup

What a ridiculous thing to say

Liljegren can’t play Holl’s shutdown game
- Dozzer

Neither can Holl.

How does that make sense?
- GreatGigInTheSky

They have NO depth on defence, and they have taken fliers on guys up front.

Who needs defence depth to win a Cup, anyway?

How does that make sense?
- GreatGigInTheSky

All the maple leafs are brown
And the sky is grey

Neither can Holl.
- GreatGigInTheSky

It’s a good thing there are two on a defence pair

Name one cup winner that had two rookie defensemen

Don’t bother trying you won’t be able to
- Dozzer

So i guess it cant be done, cause it hasnt happened?
Come on.

So i guess it cant be done, cause it hasnt happened?
Come on.
- Fakepartofme

Name one. I can’t think of any cup winner who had a bunch of rookies

You’re a bit of a dreamer man

It’s a good thing there are two on a defence pair
- Canada Cup

So the problem is lifted, then. Ditch Holl, who sucks, and put in Liljegren.

Boom! Cleared up over $1M on the CAP, to boot. GM'ing is easy.

Neither can Holl.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Why is Holl so hated?

The guy had 20 points and was plus 16 playing in the shutdown pairing last year ffs

That’s really damn good for a 4th d man

So the problem is lifted, then. Ditch Holl, who sucks, and put in Liljegren.

Boom! Cleared up over $1M on the CAP, to boot. GM'ing is easy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Not when you’re foggy minded like you are

Why is Holl so hated?

The guy had 20 points and was plus 16 playing in the shutdown pairing last year ffs

That’s really damn good for a 4th d man
- Dozzer

2 years in a row he starts the season playing very well. 2 seasons in a row he got worse and worse as the season went on. Also 2 playoffs in a row that when Muzzin got hurt, Holl was lost and incredibly useless.

So, yeah. Holl can get (frank)ed as far as I'm concerned.

2 years in a row he starts the season playing very well. 2 seasons in a row he got worse and worse as the season went on. Also 2 playoffs in a row that when Muzzin got hurt, Holl was lost and incredibly useless.

So, yeah. Holl can get (frank)ed as far as I'm concerned.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Oh he needs a good 3rd d man to play with but so long as he does he plays well.

Don’t build a pairing around him but use him to accent a good d man like Muzzin

2 years in a row he starts the season playing very well. 2 seasons in a row he got worse and worse as the season went on. Also 2 playoffs in a row that when Muzzin got hurt, Holl was lost and incredibly useless.

So, yeah. Holl can get (frank)ed as far as I'm concerned.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Who do the Leafs have who can go up against top pairings without Muzzin that make $2M or less?

Who do the Leafs have who can go up against top pairings without Muzzin that make $2M or less?
- Canada Cup

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