Means we don't have to rely on Woll to be our backup if one of the top two gets hurt.

I don't like the idea of Hutch getting starts at the NHL level - but I prefer him over Woll right now I think.
- Leafs43

It's ok. Our ebug is pretty damn good.

Marner ranked 4th best RW on TSN's Top 50 players list.

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-ho...-connor-mcdavid-1.1702938

I'll refrain from commenting that he's paid like the highest... oops.
- mjones242

When are they doing 50 top jazz bassists? Those TSN lists are gold

Right now, the Leafs' PR department is praying that Keefe doesn't put this line together.

I'm actually serious on this.
- Atomic Wedgie

I know.

I keep forgetting about Mikheyev

Hutch cleared waivers. I guess that's... good?
- mjones242

bunch of players being moved out today.

Yeah, I'm really not suggesting that this year Liljegren will be a regular but I do see him being as much in the future.

Frankly, I think he's better than Holl who I truly believe is vastly overrated.
- mjones242

Well this is new

Trade Robertson for Ty Dellandrea

No he doesn’t.

Once your head gets broken you aren’t what you used to be. Believe me.
- Dozzer

And yet after his 4th concussion Crosby didn’t see any drop off in play.

And yet after his 4th concussion Crosby didn’t see any drop off in play.
- Canada Cup

Omg are you trying to liken Kase to Crosby?

Omg are you trying to liken Kase to Crosby?
- Dozzer

No I compared Crosby to Crosby

No I compared Crosby to Crosby
- Canada Cup

Well Crosby is a superstar, hence his ability to still be dominant post concussions

If it’s not a superstar they drop off and quick

Holl was not a first round pick and never seen as a high end prospect. There have been quite a few guys like him who have found a spot after a long term in the A. I can't think of a single first round pick who has developed along the Justin Holl trajectory.
- fifty__missions

Yup, Liljegren is a 1st round pick who played his first NHL game at the age of 20. He's ready to become a regular NHLer at the tender age of 22/23.

So he's decidedly NOT on the Justin Holl trajectory (it took him 10 years!) but the point is that there are plenty of players who need a bit of marinating before they become NHL regulars -- especially when it comes to defenders.

Need a better example? How about Jake Bean who only became a regular d-man last year? He was drafted 13th overall the year prior to Lily.

Of the trio of defenders taken right before Lily in his draft class - Brannstrom, Foote, and Valimaki - only the latter has played close to a full season.

Liljegren is trending in the right direction and will be an NHLer soon enough.

Gentlemen:

Like the swallows returning to Capistrano, you can always count on the return of your favourite Leafs prediction thread.

I give you:

the Official 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread

You know the drill. Get your predictions in by opening night puck drop.

Non-Leafs fans are welcomed and encouraged.

Well Crosby is a superstar, hence his ability to still be dominant post concussions

If it’s not a superstar they drop off and quick
- Dozzer

Kase wasnt a superstar before, but a decent player.
He could come back and be a decent player.
Everyone is different

When are they doing 50 top jazz bassists? Those TSN lists are gold
- Canada Cup

Say what you want about TSN and their lists but it's not controversial to suggest Marner would rank 4th or 5th in the league for RWs.

Means we don't have to rely on Woll to be our backup if one of the top two gets hurt.

I don't like the idea of Hutch getting starts at the NHL level - but I prefer him over Woll right now I think.
- Leafs43

Agree with both Pat and yourself. Woll is barely an AHL level goaltender.

Well Crosby is a superstar, hence his ability to still be dominant post concussions

If it’s not a superstar they drop off and quick
- Dozzer

Concussions don't care if you are a superstar or a plug.

Say what you want about TSN and their lists but it's not controversial to suggest Marner would rank 4th or 5th in the league for RWs.
- mjones242

Or first

Say what you want about TSN and their lists but it's not controversial to suggest Marner would rank 4th or 5th in the league for RWs.
- mjones242

It would be controversial if he was 5th.
But at 4th, he has 3 players ahead of him that each have multiple stanley cups. So tough company.

Listen I’m not against Liljegren but there’s no way a team that considers themselves a cup contender will go with two rookie d men.

And like I said, pairing two is a shut down pairing, so unless it’s the type of guy that improves Muzzin or Holl in that role they won’t be split apart
- Dozzer

aww FIDDLESTICKS!

while i agree with your criticism of lolegren, i disagree with your assessment of the construction of the team and strategy going forward

dmen and goalies shouldn’t be an afterthought

puzzin needs more help

reilly can go kick rocks in vancouver if he’s not satisfied with a mil or half a mil less

dubass should’ve grown some stones real quick and offloaded one or both of greedy pencil neck or floater willi for some more grown men who are morally invested in the team instead of their greed

he should’ve invested from the net out

defense combined with committed (starting with ownership) personnel wins championships

this is a truism in any sport

what an ever loving joke😍

edit: nice alliteration 👍🏿

It would be controversial if he was 5th.
But at 4th, he has 3 players ahead of him that each have multiple stanley cups. So tough company.
- Fakepartofme

1. Kucherov
2. Kane
3. Pasta
4. Rants
5. Marner

I don't see that as being controversial. Hell, some might say Mark Stone deserves to be Top 5.

I think he's Top 5 but not sure if he belongs any higher than 4th.

Well this is new
- Canada Cup

Hey, nothing becomes true until you've repeated it a few hundred times.

Gentlemen:

Like the swallows returning to Capistrano, you can always count on the return of your favourite Leafs prediction thread.

I give you:

the Official 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread

You know the drill. Get your predictions in by opening night puck drop.

Non-Leafs fans are welcomed and encouraged.
- Atomic Wedgie

This just seems cruel

Disagree

They can be more talented but not as useful

Skill is not everything whatsoever
- Dozzer

Just ask Marner.

Hey, nothing becomes true until you've repeated it a few hundred times.
- mjones242

You’ve met my wife?

Say what you want about TSN and their lists but it's not controversial to suggest Marner would rank 4th or 5th in the league for RWs.
- mjones242

How about this:

Top Canadian RW for the last 20 years.