No they didn’t.

They see him as a bottom pairing guy. Get used to him.
- Dozzer

Think they are still upset with Dermott for the turnover in OT of Game 6.. Maybe, he's traded or dropped to the 7th spot, but I don't think he's being guaranteed anything

still a week away. Dubas could still trade someone maybe, a Dermott or an Engvall?


I have a feeling that Mikheyev will play 2LW on the Tavares-Nylander line to start the season.
- PatC80

Yup, it will be him on the second line

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Bunting
Engvall Spezza Simmonds
Kase (extra)

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Dermott

Campbell
Mrazek (extra)

He wasn't a UFA, he was an RFA team controlled.

They signed him to either play him or hold his value.

Holy (frank) you are closed minded, you are acting as if a 24 year old bottom pairing d at a 1.5M contract is untouchable and won't be traded.

He is not guaranteed a spot. He is a depth piece.

He may be on the team, he may not...but its ridiculous to be handing him a spot right now.
- Santo_44

You can let RFA’s walk

They signed him because they wanted him. End of story.

They’re not going to play two rookie d men on a team they consider cup contenders.

Yup, it will be him on the second line

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Bunting
Engvall Spezza Simmonds
Kase (extra)

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Dermott

Campbell
Mrazek (extra)
- Dozzer

I'll bet you any amounts of money that Kase will not be the 13th forward on opening night

I don't necessarily want to lose Engvall.

We just have no roster flexibility right now. We will also be screwed if there is a short term injury on defense if we are only carrying 6.

I would rather see them either make a trade now, or try to sneak someone through waivers now - rather than trying to get someone through waivers mid season when there have been injuries/under performances that lead to teams wanting to make changes.
- Leafs43

Engvall is too important to Spezza.

Spezza likes to do the draws but then play wing, so they need a guy like Engvall to start at the wing and move to center mid play. They don’t have another guy like that.

I'll bet you any amounts of money that Kase will not be the 13th forward on opening night
- Santo_44

Him or Bunting

You can let RFA’s walk

They signed him because they wanted him. End of story.

They’re not going to play two rookie d men on a team they consider cup contenders.
- Dozzer

uhmmm...let him walk and lose his value?

They signed him because he has value to the team. Either in their lineup or in a trade.

They did not sign him to guarantee him a spot on the team.

He played an average of 13 mins per game last season ffs...

Think they are still upset with Dermott for the turnover in OT of Game 6.. Maybe, he's traded or dropped to the 7th spot, but I don't think he's being guaranteed anything
- PatC80

The leafs don’t have the cap space to carry 7 D atm

Yup, it will be him on the second line

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Bunting
Engvall Spezza Simmonds
Kase (extra)

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Dermott

Campbell
Mrazek (extra)
- Dozzer

I hope Kase is not the 13th forward..

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Bunting Kerfoot Kase
Engvall Kampf Spezza/Simmonds

Him or Bunting
- Dozzer

I will bet you they are both in the lineup.

No chance in hell Engvall makes it over them.

uhmmm...let him walk and lose his value?

They signed him because he has value to the team. Either in their lineup or in a trade.

They did not sign him to guarantee him a spot on the team.

He played an average of 13 mins per game last season ffs...
- Santo_44

He’s bottom pairing, that’s all they do. Stop expecting someone more special.

Yup, it will be him on the second line

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Bunting
Engvall Spezza Simmonds
Kase (extra)

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Dermott

Campbell
Mrazek (extra)
- Dozzer

I would be shocked if Kase starts the season as the 13th forward. If they give Mik some time on the 2nd then I think Kase is on the 3rd and Bunting is on the 4th. I doubt Mi, last long up there and Bunting moves up.

If Engvall slots into the 13th spot, 5hey might be tempted to trade his $ and move one of the versatile last cuts up.

The leafs don’t have the cap space to carry 7 D atm
- Dozzer

if they go with 12 F, 7 D and 2 G, they can.

I will bet you they are both in the lineup.

No chance in hell Engvall makes it over them.
- Santo_44

He scored twice in his first game of the year and he’s Spezza’s line mate.

So you might as well get used to the idea now. He’ll be in game one.

He scored twice in his first game of the year and he’s Spezza’s line mate.

So you might as well get used to the idea now. He’ll be in game one.
- Dozzer

Sorry I don't guarantee lineup spots to depth players like you do.

if they go with 12 F, 7 D and 2 G, they can.
- PatC80

They won’t. And let me guess one of your forward is Kase with a concussion history?

You’re dreaming man.

I will bet you they are both in the lineup.

No chance in hell Engvall makes it over them.
- Santo_44

I agree with this. I think Engvall is either shipped out of town before opening night or he's our 13th forward and they take the risk of someone claiming Brooks (who I think has been solid and I actually prefer).

Sorry I don't guarantee lineup spots to depth players like you do.
- Santo_44

I guess I’ll hear you guys whine about it on the 13th

With all these definitive answers and bets, I don't know what to believe anymore.

I would be shocked if Kase starts the season as the 13th forward. If they give Mik some time on the 2nd then I think Kase is on the 3rd and Bunting is on the 4th. I doubt Mi, last long up there and Bunting moves up.

If Engvall slots into the 13th spot, 5hey might be tempted to trade his $ and move one of the versatile last cuts up.
- Canada Cup

Dermott and Engvall are untouchable.

I hope Kase is not the 13th forward..

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Bunting Kerfoot Kase
Engvall Kampf Spezza/Simmonds
- PatC80

Kampf is our 3C until he proves he can't hack it.

Kerf-Kampf-Kase

Dermott and Engvall are untouchable.
- Santo_44

Ah

They won’t. And let me guess one of your forward is Kase with a concussion history?

You’re dreaming man.
- Dozzer

I don't know man, I can't guarantee anything.. I think Kase is in the top 12 forward group

With all these definitive answers and bets, I don't know what to believe anymore.
- Scabeh

I don't necessarily want to lose Engvall.

We just have no roster flexibility right now. We will also be screwed if there is a short term injury on defense if we are only carrying 6.

I would rather see them either make a trade now, or try to sneak someone through waivers now - rather than trying to get someone through waivers mid season when there have been injuries/under performances that lead to teams wanting to make changes.
- Leafs43

i agree👍🏿

engvall and souperman are rare commodities👍

big, fast, sound hockey players without the “greatest hands”👍

the entire team is not supposed to be specializing in ice dancing🤦🏿‍♂️

plus, neither is necessarily a pencil neck 👍

could be thicker but not bad 👍🏿