The salary is for the regular season so big damn whoop to your point you dreamer that thinks Matthews might stick around
- Dozzer

Exactly, so is the overall cap.
So quit whining about Tampa.

Oh yes thats right, "you know for a fact".

Cap doesnt count in playoffs - league needs to change this.
But, Tampa found a way to work within and around the rules which the NHL didnt object to.
It was great, good for them.
Not sure why people are still hung up on this.
LOL
Had the leafs done the same, no one here would care.
- Fakepartofme

The league will never be able to change this because the NHLPA will never agree to it unless every damn team in the league gets post season time

And if the leafs did it yes I wouldn’t be happy and I’d consider management to be nothing more than shifty bumholes

I’m not that type even when I’m baked

Still being told tho to smoke some by the gf a lot if I’m grumpy lol
- Dozzer

nah, dude is waiting for his weed delivery to arrive

Exactly, so is the overall cap.
So quit whining about Tampa.

Oh yes thats right, "you know for a fact".
- Fakepartofme

They cheated as far as I’m concerned period

I said roughly 20 million because it was

$98,840,470 was the cap hit they had in their playoff roster

Stop f’n defending that team, they’re cheaters
- Dozzer

https://www.si.com/hockey...ead-of-nhl-trade-deadline

Which was proposed and rejected during negotiation of collective agreement. Ironically, it might have been TBL that asked for it. Can’t remember.
- Canada Cup

It was Tampa and Detroit I believe.
Not sure why this didnt fly at the time......guess the other teams who were making money wanted to leave open the possibility of maybe doing what Tampa just did?

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/maple-leafs-acquire-riley-nash-increase-cap-space-ahead-of-nhl-trade-deadline
- AdamFrench

Yeah but they lost so who cares?

They cheated as far as I’m concerned period
- Dozzer

What a beautiful world it would be if any team could be so great that losing a 130 point player for an entire season doesn't matter for them making the playoffs.

But that's not cap, so some of the top of the list players are higher than they would be.
Price's salary is 13m but cap hit is only 10.5
Similarly, willie would be higher on the salary list at 7.4m but his cap his is only 6.9.

So marner still has the 7th highest cap hit.

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/2022/cap-hit/
- Fakepartofme

this season
Price Salary is 13 with 10.5 cap
Willys Salary is 6 with 6.9 cap

the 7.4 number is pretty meaningless...its just that his total actual $$ average 7.4 because he signed part way into the season

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/maple-leafs-acquire-riley-nash-increase-cap-space-ahead-of-nhl-trade-deadline
- AdamFrench

Yup good thing JT got hurt so this jackass’s 2 games were still under the cap

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/maple-leafs-acquire-riley-nash-increase-cap-space-ahead-of-nhl-trade-deadline
- AdamFrench

that move kept Hyman and Bogosian on ltir longer

Yup good thing JT got hurt so this jackass’s 2 games were still under the cap
- Dozzer

It is funny the amount of capnaniggans everyone does and when it doesn't matter (Nash/Foligno/Andersen) we all kind of shrug and let it go.

It is funny the amount of capnaniggans everyone does and when it doesn't matter (Nash/Foligno/Andersen) we all kind of shrug and let it go.
- AdamFrench

It’s shifty BS

Glad all 3 are gone

I’m not that type even when I’m baked

Still being told tho to smoke some by the gf a lot if I’m grumpy lol
- Dozzer

this season
Price Salary is 13 with 10.5 cap
Willys Salary is 6 with 6.9 cap

the 7.4 number is pretty meaningless...its just that his total actual $$ average 7.4 because he signed part way into the season
- senstroll

He signed a 6 year 45m contract....avg sal 7.5m
Salary is: 7.5...I said 7.4 my bad.
Cap hit is: 6.9
Leafs actual cash being paid now is: 6m.
Which went down from 9m the year before and 8.7m the first year.
So its not meaningless....that is what is salary is.

But in saying all of the above....only cap hit matters to us, 6.9.

Your argument is fine but still doesn’t prove me wrong

5th best scorer deserves to be top 7 in payment
- Dozzer

For me Rantanen and Marner are in the same discussion. Both are/were point-per-game players.

September 13/19' Marner signs 10.9 x 6
September 28/19' Rantanen signs 9.25 x 6

Marner's camp was not shy about their position that Marner wanted to be paid amongst the best ..McDavid and Matthews. He also wanted to be re-paid the 4.5M in rookie bonuses that he felt the Leafs owed him. Factor the 4.8M over 6 yrs and it makes his deal ~ 10M per season.

*the insider scoop was that his bottom line deal was really per year ...10 + 800k (rookie payback) + 93,000 (to honour his hero).

A stalemate wasn't an option so Dubas had two choices. Make the best deal you can prior to the season or trade him. Very few wanted him traded (for good reason) so here we are. He's 500k to 1M over budget but he's got all the ability in the world to be this City's hero.

Just (frank)ing do it Mitchy.

It’s shifty BS

Glad all 3 are gone
- Dozzer

Andersen : Wish him well. He was a great Leaf. Didn't get it done, but he was the best goalie they've had since Eddy. Hoping the two headed split starting monster works out this year.

Nash : I guess he existed? Helped their cap crunch bullpoop so...?

Foligno : Ya...(frank) this poop.

It is funny the amount of capnaniggans everyone does and when it doesn't matter (Nash/Foligno/Andersen) we all kind of shrug and let it go.
- AdamFrench

The mental gymnastics in here is insane.

The Leafs literally picked up Nash with the sole intention of putting him on LTIR until the playoffs.

He was never going to play in the regular season - and he was magically good to go on day 1 of the playoffs. (Just like Kucherov)

If the TBL cheated - so did the Leafs. The only difference is the magnitude.

For me Rantanen and Marner are in the same discussion. Both are/were point-per-game players.

September 13/19' Marner signs 10.9 x 6
September 28/19' Rantanen signs 9.25 x 6

Marner's camp was not shy about their position that Marner wanted to be paid amongst the best ..McDavid and Matthews. He also wanted to be re-paid the 4.5M in rookie bonuses that he felt the Leafs owed him. Factor the 4.8M over 6 yrs and it makes his deal ~ 10M per season.

*the insider scoop was that his bottom line deal was really per year ...10 + 800k (rookie payback) + 93,000 (to honour his hero).

A stalemate wasn't an option so Dubas had two choices. Make the best deal you can prior to the season or trade him. Very few wanted him traded (for good reason) so here we are. He's 500k to 1M over budget but he's got all the ability in the world to be this City's hero.

Just (frank)ing do it Mitchy.
- The Law

Do it in the playoffs and no one will care about his or really anyone's cap hit.

For me Rantanen and Marner are in the same discussion. Both are/were point-per-game players.

September 13/19' Marner signs 10.9 x 6
September 28/19' Rantanen signs 9.25 x 6

Marner's camp was not shy about their position that Marner wanted to be paid amongst the best ..McDavid and Matthews. He also wanted to be re-paid the 4.5M in rookie bonuses that he felt the Leafs owed him. Factor the 4.8M over 6 yrs and it makes his deal ~ 10M per season.

*the insider scoop was that his bottom line deal was really per year ...10 + 800k (rookie payback) + 93,000 (to honour his hero).

A stalemate wasn't an option so Dubas had two choices. Make the best deal you can prior to the season or trade him. Very few wanted him traded (for good reason) so here we are. He's 500k to 1M over budget but he's got all the ability in the world to be this City's hero.

Just (frank)ing do it Mitchy.
- The Law

A strong performance by him in the next playoffs and the talk of him being overpaid/possibly traded will fade away.

The mental gymnastics in here is insane.

The Leafs literally picked up Nash with the sole intention of putting him on LTIR until the playoffs.

He was never going to play in the regular season - and he was magically good to go on day 1 of the playoffs. (Just like Kucherov)

If the TBL cheated - so did the Leafs. The only difference is the magnitude.
- Leafs43

And result.

The mental gymnastics in here is insane.

The Leafs literally picked up Nash with the sole intention of putting him on LTIR until the playoffs.

He was never going to play in the regular season - and he was magically good to go on day 1 of the playoffs. (Just like Kucherov)

If the TBL cheated - so did the Leafs. The only difference is the magnitude.
- Leafs43

My only take on this is this...

If the Leafs were good enough to miss Marner or Tavares or Matthews for an ENTIRE season and still made the playoffs comfortably...I would be very happy with the team I have.

He signed a 6 year 45m contract....avg sal 7.5m
Salary is: 7.5...I said 7.4 my bad.
Cap hit is: 6.9
Leafs actual cash being paid now is: 6m.
Which went down from 9m the year before and 8.7m the first year.
So its not meaningless....that is what is salary is.

But in saying all of the above....only cap hit matters to us, 6.9.
- Fakepartofme

ok fine, meaningless to everyone but you

For me Rantanen and Marner are in the same discussion. Both are/were point-per-game players.

September 13/19' Marner signs 10.9 x 6
September 28/19' Rantanen signs 9.25 x 6

Marner's camp was not shy about their position that Marner wanted to be paid amongst the best ..McDavid and Matthews. He also wanted to be re-paid the 4.5M in rookie bonuses that he felt the Leafs owed him. Factor the 4.8M over 6 yrs and it makes his deal ~ 10M per season.

*the insider scoop was that his bottom line deal was really per year ...10 + 800k (rookie payback) + 93,000 (to honour his hero).

A stalemate wasn't an option so Dubas had two choices. Make the best deal you can prior to the season or trade him. Very few wanted him traded (for good reason) so here we are. He's 500k to 1M over budget but he's got all the ability in the world to be this City's hero.

Just (frank)ing do it Mitchy.
- The Law

Thanks for breaking this down for me, I knew he felt underpaid but I didn’t know specifically when or why.

He’s an amazing player, just needs a good post season to shut all the whining leaf fans about him up

Which was proposed and rejected during negotiation of collective agreement. Ironically, it might have been TBL that asked for it. Can’t remember.
- Canada Cup

By the players? Maybe they've manifested their own issues then. Dougie Hamilton would vote differently today.