So, if Tavares isn't ready until the playoffs start, can we bring in Malkin?
- PatC80

No, because Malkin wants to be THE MAN somewhere.

The leverage was 'created' in favor of Marner at the fault of Dubas for waiting a bit too long and letting it come down to the wire. Marner's team got leverage because they knew Dubas wouldn't want another Nylander incident. It happened with Nylander too obviously. Matthews got pretty much the best deal he could possibly want.

Dubas doesn't get enough flack for always letting the other side 'find' or 'create' leverage. He is a terrible negotiator for that reason alone. RFAs are suppose to have very little leverage, not ours.

We're seeing it now with Rielly. IMO, that deal should have been agreed to before last year's TDL and signed this summer. Every day Rielly gets closer to UFA the more leverage is 'created' for Rielly's team.

Pretty sure the book is out on Dubas. His deals are always now shrouded in too much patience or not enough pressure to get things done. And that is why ALL of the contracts he has done are a million or two too much or a year or two too short.
- Barb34

Marner was going to be somewhat tied to Matthews. The issue was JT. Once the bar was set at $11, everything got locked in at high numbers.

Dubas couldn't predict the pandemic.

That's some low level management right there.
- Scabeh

Well of course.

That's Pridham's fault.
LOL

No, because Malkin wants to be THE MAN somewhere.
- Scabeh

dangit.. Get Eichel, put him on LTIR with Tavares.. then go after someone who wants to be less 'manly'?

No, because Malkin wants to be THE MAN somewhere.
- Scabeh

Only on a crap team. All the good teams have better players than he is now..

Marner was going to be somewhat tied to Matthews. The issue was JT. Once the bar was set at $11, everything got locked in at high numbers.
- Canada Cup

exactly, once JT got $11M, you knew Matthews and Marner were getting that as well

1. The number just keeps going up. It used to be 18 million, now it's apparently 20 million.

2. The combined salary cap hit of the 20 starting players in game 1 of the playoffs for the TBL was about 88.6 million. Certainly over the cap. But nowhere near 20 million or 18 million over.
- Leafs43

I said roughly 20 million because it was

$98,840,470 was the cap hit they had in their playoff roster

Stop f’n defending that team, they’re cheaters

I said roughly 20 million because it was

$98,840,470 was the cap hit they had in their playoff roster

Stop f’n defending that team, they’re cheaters
- Dozzer

So, if Tavares isn't ready until the playoffs start, can we bring in Malkin?
- PatC80

sure but Malking is also out till November/Decmeber time frame me thinks.

Only on a crap team. All the good teams have better players than he is now..
- bixll

Yeah, guy is broken.

Your argument is fine but still doesn’t prove me wrong

5th best scorer deserves to be top 7 in payment
- Dozzer

5th best reg season scorer.
I wonder where he ranks the past couple of seasons for playoff scorer.

TB was nearly 20 million over the cap during the playoffs

Multiple guys were “hurt” and became ok at the same time which was game 1 of the playoffs

If you think that was sincere you’re a fool
- Dozzer

This 'should' be an easy fix. Make teams be cap compliant in the playoffs. You bring Kuch back and you have to drop a bunch of salary.

I said roughly 20 million because it was

$98,840,470 was the cap hit they had in their playoff roster

Stop f’n defending that team, they’re cheaters
- Dozzer

It just flat out isn't. I just quoted you the playoff roster cap hit.

That 98 million number includes Gaborik and Nilsson. Who not only never stepped foot on the ice for the TBL - I'm not even sure they ever stepped foot in TB.

- bixll

I’m not that type even when I’m baked

Still being told tho to smoke some by the gf a lot if I’m grumpy lol

This 'should' be an easy fix. Make teams be cap compliant in the playoffs. You bring Kuch back and you have to drop a bunch of salary.
- The Law

This is an easy solution that should be adhered to.

Make the rule that you can't ice a playoff team that is over the cap.

Done. Easy. (And yes CC, I know they need to renegotiate the CBA to do this)

5th best reg season scorer.
I wonder where he ranks the past couple of seasons for playoff scorer.
- Fakepartofme

ouch puck is over .....

5th best reg season scorer.
I wonder where he ranks the past couple of seasons for playoff scorer.
- Fakepartofme

The salary is for the regular season so big damn whoop to your point you dreamer that thinks Matthews might stick around

This 'should' be an easy fix. Make teams be cap compliant in the playoffs. You bring Kuch back and you have to drop a bunch of salary.
- The Law

Which was proposed and rejected during negotiation of collective agreement. Ironically, it might have been TBL that asked for it. Can’t remember.

This 'should' be an easy fix. Make teams be cap compliant in the playoffs. You bring Kuch back and you have to drop a bunch of salary.
- The Law

I agree 100% but good luck convincing the player’s union to agree to that

This 'should' be an easy fix. Make teams be cap compliant in the playoffs. You bring Kuch back and you have to drop a bunch of salary.
- The Law

or if the player is out for the season, no playoff for that player.
it would like claiming someone after the trade deadline rule.

This is an easy solution that should be adhered to.

Make the rule that you can't ice a playoff team that is over the cap.

Done. Easy. (And yes CC, I know they need to renegotiate the CBA to do this)
- Leafs43

A quick half-fix would be that you can't spend the entire season on LTIR and then play in the playoffs.

It's still open to abuse, but it's a start.

I said roughly 20 million because it was

$98,840,470 was the cap hit they had in their playoff roster

Stop f’n defending that team, they’re cheaters
- Dozzer

Cap doesnt count in playoffs - league needs to change this.
But, Tampa found a way to work within and around the rules which the NHL didnt object to.
It was great, good for them.
Not sure why people are still hung up on this.
LOL
Had the leafs done the same, no one here would care.

It just flat out isn't. I just quoted you the playoff roster cap hit.

That 98 million number includes Gaborik and Nilsson. Who not only never stepped foot on the ice for the TBL - I'm not even sure they ever stepped foot in TB.
- Leafs43

Wtf ever.

Even $1 over (one single dollar) is cheating in my mind

Which was proposed and rejected during negotiation of collective agreement. Ironically, it might have been TBL that asked for it. Can’t remember.
- Canada Cup

Correct.

I agree 100% but good luck convincing the player’s union to agree to that
- Dozzer

Or high budget teams that can afford to be over for the season