I wonder how long he / Tanooki / Horesy Sauce will be off on vacation ?
- bixll

Considering the events that occurred, I'm guessing a long time.

No - getting Engvall through waivers is the solution, he would be called back up and put on the roster.

Getting him through waivers at the beginning of the year means he is waiver exempt the rest of the year. He can be sent up and down as needed - that's where the flexibility comes in.

As we are right now (if we run with 6 D and 13F) a short term injury on defense would mean a forward needs to go down in order to have the cap space to bring up a defenseman. If Engvall has already gone through waivers - he could be that forward.
- Leafs43

I'm sure some teams would be interesting in grabbing Engvall if goes through waivers.

If I'm the Habs, I'm considering it for sure since Poehling as been very "meh" in camp.

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- Garnie

I'm actually trying to keep Engvall.

The likelyhood of a short term injury on D is pretty high in my opinion. Eventually, a forward likely has to go on waivers.

Maybe Simmonds could go on waivers and threaten retirement if someone claims him like Spezza did.

I think that forward would probably be Engvall. I think sneaking him through now is the best way to keep him. But he could also be claimed.

Tough choice.

I'm sure some teams would be interesting in grabbing Engvall if goes through waivers.

If I'm the Habs, I'm considering it for sure since Poehling as been very "meh" in camp.
- Scabeh

I thought maybe his cap hit would deter teams. He could be replaced by similar players for less.

He could be claimed. No idea. I just think we will probably need to put someone from this roster on waivers. Might as well do it now and get it over with.

Very easy to say, what do you suggest ?
- bixll

trades, maybe? I would try to get something even a late round pick instead of losing a player to waivers

I'm sure some teams would be interesting in grabbing Engvall if goes through waivers.

If I'm the Habs, I'm considering it for sure since Poehling as been very "meh" in camp.
- Scabeh

Don't think you guys can afford him

If he was on waivers I would assume Buggalo or Arizona would be the destinations.

Considering the events that occurred, I'm guessing a long time.

- Scabeh

Watch your step

I've suggested it multiple times.

Try to sneak Engvall through waivers now.

If he is claimed - cap issues are reduced. If not, he is now waiver exempt for the rest of the year and we have some flexibility.
- Leafs43

He's only waiver exempt for 30 days.

I thought maybe his cap hit would deter teams. He could be replaced by similar players for less.

He could be claimed. No idea. I just think we will probably need to put someone from this roster on waivers. Might as well do it now and get it over with.
- Leafs43

I think (and I could be oh so wrong about this) teams usually try and wait until the very last second to put their interesting players through waivers.

That way there's a chance teams that could have picked him up decided to grab someone else before or have already set their roster and decide not to mess with it right before the season.

I'm actually trying to keep Engvall.

The likelyhood of a short term injury on D is pretty high in my opinion. Eventually, a forward likely has to go on waivers.

Maybe Simmonds could go on waivers and threaten retirement if someone claims him like Spezza did.

I think that forward would probably be Engvall. I think sneaking him through now is the best way to keep him. But he could also be claimed.

Tough choice.
- Leafs43

Simmonds on waivers, might be a better option than Engvall. Engvall can PK and play C/W.. Simmonds may not get much PP time with Nick Ritchie here now..

Engvall is far more versatile than Simmonds

Don't think you guys can afford him

If he was on waivers I would assume Buggalo or Arizona would be the destinations.
- AdamFrench

It would be tight but it would work, I think.

But yeah, plenty of other suitors out there.

I've suggested it multiple times.

Try to sneak Engvall through waivers now.

If he is claimed - cap issues are reduced. If not, he is now waiver exempt for the rest of the year and we have some flexibility.
- Leafs43

I believe this is untrue. I think it like 30 days or after 10 games played, he would need to go through waiver again.

Simmonds on waivers, might be a better option than Engvall. Engvall can PK and play C/W.. Simmonds may not get much PP time with Nick Ritchie here now..

Engvall is far more versatile than Simmonds
- PatC80

Simmonds is done. I said it before you signed him when I was scared he'd end up in Montreal and I still think so today.

But he looks very respected in the Leafs room. Keefe seems to love that guy.

According to a 5 episode documentary I watched at least.

I believe this is untrue. I think it like 30 days or after 10 games played, he would need to go through waiver again.
- dmnted

I was thinking of just copy/pasting AA's predictions as they are already fact.
- AdamFrench

It would be tight but it would work, I think.

But yeah, plenty of other suitors out there.
- Scabeh

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- AdamFrench

So what's your point?

No - getting Engvall through waivers is the solution, he would be called back up and put on the roster.

Getting him through waivers at the beginning of the year means he is waiver exempt the rest of the year. He can be sent up and down as needed - that's where the flexibility comes in.

As we are right now (if we run with 6 D and 13F) a short term injury on defense would mean a forward needs to go down in order to have the cap space to bring up a defenseman. If Engvall has already gone through waivers - he could be that forward.
- Leafs43

Do you not get cap relief with the injured players salary ? When they are placed on the IR...

He's only waiver exempt for 30 days.
- Monkeypunk

Well this is news to me and has completely changed my outlook.

So, in your opinion, moving the Giraffe's 1.25 mill deal to the A is the solution for team flexibility ??

Sorry, I don't see it.
- bixll

The Leafs will still be on the hook for some his cap as well. Granted, it's not much but still.

Simmonds is done. I said it before you signed him when I was scared he'd end up in Montreal and I still think so today.

But he looks very respected in the Leafs room. Keefe seems to love that guy.

According to a 5 episode documentary I watched at least.
- Scabeh

Keefe likes him, because Simmonds is just as intense as he is.. I still love Simmonds and wish he could put up 20 goals again.. I just think Engvall is more valuable to the Leafs

Do you not get cap relief with the injured players salary ? When they are placed on the IR...
- bixll

You can get over the cap by the same amount than of the injured player's salary.

But when the player comes back from injury, you need to be back to being cap compliant.

It's not free cap space unless the player is injured all year.

I didn't watch it either.
- bixll

nor I

I thought maybe his cap hit would deter teams. He could be replaced by similar players for less.

He could be claimed. No idea. I just think we will probably need to put someone from this roster on waivers. Might as well do it now and get it over with.
- Leafs43

Depending on how big ones balls are, they could try to get Mikheyev through. Not sure anyone is taking him at 1.6.

The no term after this year could be the poop kicker for both him and Engvall however.

Simmonds is done. I said it before you signed him when I was scared he'd end up in Montreal and I still think so today.

But he looks very respected in the Leafs room. Keefe seems to love that guy.

According to a 5 episode documentary I watched at least.
- Scabeh

Can he play 4th line minutes and play a certain style for $900K? There are a bunch of guys I like more than him but if he does give them something unique on the team. I’m not sure it’s worth it if he can’t make plays but maybe it’s ok in a limited role.