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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
Another way to slice it:

Take a look at any Team Canada from 1984 onwards.

How many of our wingers were actually wingers?

- Atomic Wedgie

Yeah, no doubt Team Canada forwards are predominately Cs. It's interesting to think about -- do our junior leagues tend to naturally push the most talented youngsters into the C position? I'd imagine the answer has to be yes.

Again, I hadn't really considered this in depth before. It's an interesting topic though!
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 6 @ 5:56 PM ET
A friend is the daughter of deeply religious, split up Scottish Presbyterian mother and Iranian father who did the only logical thing and converted to Judaism.
- Canada Cup

I can only assume she married into a Jewish family? Or did she go all Cat Stevens and inexplicably convert (and go all-in) to a different religion out of seemingly nowhere?

Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 6 @ 5:58 PM ET
If there's been one thing you've been consistent about over the years, Skalapsie, it's been warning people of the dangers of pencil-thin necks.
- Atomic Wedgie

i speak from personal experience

all that i have is anecdotal evidence and some internet stuff

btw i tried the iron neck bs that rogan pimped for a few months

this may be great for rehab or pencil necks who’ve never worked the neck but it’s not effective for building strength beyond that

There’s no way to gauge your progress because it uses bunji cords(1) plus the posterior exercises aren’t ergonomic and will screw up your vertebrae if you do it wrong

my gym got rid of our neck machine so I’m back to good old neck isos
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
Make sure you include the neck in your workout routine

Your head sits on top of it

too much effort has been put into helmet technology and not enough into how a strong neck may reduce the risk and mitigate the effects and duration of tbi

i consider my neck part of “core strength”

- Skalapy


I don't do do specific lifts for neck, it gets bigger just from me gritting my teeth as I blast out reps for Jesus.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 6 @ 6:34 PM ET
https://twitter.com/hocke...9RZj3EGI8yZHFM2blNaA&s=19
Kane under investigation again?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 6 @ 6:41 PM ET
Yeah, no doubt Team Canada forwards are predominately Cs. It's interesting to think about -- do our junior leagues tend to naturally push the most talented youngsters into the C position? I'd imagine the answer has to be yes.

Again, I hadn't really considered this in depth before. It's an interesting topic though!

- mjones242


I wonder if the smaller ice in NA tends to mean our Wingers do less then Euro's. Centres do it all here.

I'd also say that our apparent lack of depth on the wings is impacted by our overwhelming domination at C. We produce so many elite level C's that they have to eventually get bumped to the wing on Team Canada.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:48 PM ET
https://twitter.com/hockeynight/status/1445841857557172226?t=s99RZj3EGI8yZHFM2blNaA&s=19
Kane under investigation again?

- Fakepartofme


Betting against the vaccine is a longshot
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 6 @ 6:49 PM ET
https://twitter.com/hockeynight/status/1445841857557172226?t=s99RZj3EGI8yZHFM2blNaA&s=19
Kane under investigation again?

- Fakepartofme


Man oh man could you imagine?

Why is there suspicion? Any idea?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
i speak from personal experience

all that i have is anecdotal evidence and some internet stuff

btw i tried the iron neck bs that rogan pimped for a few months

this may be great for rehab or pencil necks who’ve never worked the neck but it’s not effective for building strength beyond that

There’s no way to gauge your progress because it uses bunji cords(1) plus the posterior exercises aren’t ergonomic and will screw up your vertebrae if you do it wrong

my gym got rid of our neck machine so I’m back to good old neck isos

- Skalapy


Contact sports will always equate to concussions but I think strengthening your neck muscles is probably a great way to help limit or reduce the injury.

The predominant issue with concussions is the impact ..especially high speed. Helmets are great at preventing superficial damage and impact wounds but the real brain injury is the brain smashing back and forth off the inside of your skull.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
I wonder if the smaller ice in NA tends to mean our Wingers do less then Euro's. Centres do it all here.

I'd also say that our apparent lack of depth on the wings is impacted by our overwhelming domination at C. We produce so many elite level C's that they have to eventually get bumped to the wing on Team Canada.

- The Law

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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
I can only assume she married into a Jewish family? Or did she go all Cat Stevens and inexplicably convert (and go all-in) to a different religion out of seemingly nowhere?


- mjones242


No, she didn’t marry into it. There was such hostility between her parents and apparently a lot of it was based on religion, she just went (frank) you both. I don’t know.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
I wonder if the smaller ice in NA tends to mean our Wingers do less then Euro's. Centres do it all here.

I'd also say that our apparent lack of depth on the wings is impacted by our overwhelming domination at C. We produce so many elite level C's that they have to eventually get bumped to the wing on Team Canada.

- The Law


We have a lot of play making wingers who, potentially could play C (if they committed to the defensive part of the game)
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:01 PM ET
Man oh man could you imagine?

Why is there suspicion? Any idea?

- Dozzer


Is should be pretty easy to prove it was fake. It would say where and when he got the shot. A quick double check would show one way or another — if the card in question is still around.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 6 @ 7:12 PM ET
Is should be pretty easy to prove it was fake. It would say where and when he got the shot. A quick double check would show one way or another — if the card in question is still around.
- Canada Cup


The sharks apparently won’t even let him attend camp until this is sorted out

This could turn out real damn ugly
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 6 @ 7:22 PM ET
How did Mikky look last night? I think the last real debate is whether he or Bunting get that LW slot beside JT for the opener.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 6 @ 7:30 PM ET
How did Mikky look last night? I think the last real debate is whether he or Bunting get that LW slot beside JT for the opener.
- The Law


He looked decent and he scored

Ive noticed Bunting started strong but as they played against more NHL players he faded rather quickly production wise. Coupled with the fact Mikheyev is so much faster I think it will be him on the 2nd line.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:32 PM ET
Another problem with being tight against the cap. Tougher to develop someone like liljegren properly. I have been pleasantly surprised with how his defensive game ha# developed. Would be nice if he could be eased into the NHL
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 6 @ 7:33 PM ET
Another problem with being tight against the cap. Tougher to develop someone like liljegren properly. I have been pleasantly surprised with how his defensive game ha# developed. Would be nice if he could be eased into the NHL
- jribout


The only way he’s getting NHL time is if someone gets hurt.

Or traded if they’re having a poopty season
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:39 PM ET
The only way he’s getting NHL time is if someone gets hurt.

Or traded if they’re having a poopty season

- Dozzer


Yes but more likely because of cap and waiver exemption not his ability.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 6 @ 7:42 PM ET
Yes but more likely because of cap and waiver exemption not his ability.
- jribout


Where would you put him?

Top pairing? No
Second pairing which is a shut down pairing? No
Third pairing which just sucks up additional minutes with another rookie? No

They consider themselves a cup contender and they already have one rookie d man, let Liljegren play top line minutes in the AHL and give him a spot next year once Rielly is gone and replaced by Sandin (which tbh is what I’m expecting)
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:44 PM ET
Where would you put him?

Top pairing? No
Second pairing which is a shut down pairing? No
Third pairing which just sucks up additional minutes with another rookie? No

They consider themselves a cup contender and they already have one rookie d man, let Liljegren play top line minutes in the AHL and give him a spot next year once Rielly is gone and replaced by Sandin (which tbh is what I’m expecting)

- Dozzer


He could play sporadically. Mostly AHL, but 15-20 NHL games.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 6 @ 7:46 PM ET
He could play sporadically. Mostly AHL, but 15-20 NHL games.
- jribout


If they didn’t consider themselves cup contenders I would agree with you.

But so long as they’re being competitive the coaching staff simply wouldn’t want to do it.

However that being said if they have a bad season I hope they make moves to make room for him, I mean they can’t even afford a 7th d man right now with only about $80K of cap space free

Bugs me that as it stands it looks like 13 forwards, 6 d men, and 2 goalies right now to start the season
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:53 PM ET
If they didn’t consider themselves cup contenders I would agree with you.

But so long as they’re being competitive the coaching staff simply wouldn’t want to do it.

However that being said if they have a bad season I hope they make moves to make room for him, I mean they can’t even afford a 7th d man right now with only about $80K of cap space free

Bugs me that as it stands it looks like 13 forwards, 6 d men, and 2 goalies right now to start the season

- Dozzer


True cup contenders are good enough to develop young players by giving the sporadic playing time throughout the season. He could have been in the mix with Dermott. If neither is good enough this year bring someone better in at the deadline.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:55 PM ET
How did Mikky look last night? I think the last real debate is whether he or Bunting get that LW slot beside JT for the opener.
- The Law

He played well, but still fumbled (frank)ed a 2 on 1.

It’s his spot if he wants it but if he keeps showing stone hands it will be a short stay in the top 6.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:55 PM ET
If they didn’t consider themselves cup contenders I would agree with you.

But so long as they’re being competitive the coaching staff simply wouldn’t want to do it.

However that being said if they have a bad season I hope they make moves to make room for him, I mean they can’t even afford a 7th d man right now with only about $80K of cap space free

Bugs me that as it stands it looks like 13 forwards, 6 d men, and 2 goalies right now to start the season

- Dozzer


As for 6 D men. Something has to give. There will certainly be several times this year when a 7th is needed and the injured player cannot go on LTIR
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