Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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He was a scratch mostly through last years playoffs...That says enough about him.
They brought in Ritchie, Bunting, Kase, Kampf as UFA's...No way he plays over these guys to start at least. - Santo_44
1 game and then he put up the best analytics, supposedly the Leafs are into analytics but I’m not 100%
Also Dermott puts up some good analytics for 3rd pairing D, I can’t see Sandin Lily to start the year unless Dermott is hurt? I know he didn’t play the other night and he was supposed to? Anyone? |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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He was a scratch mostly through last years playoffs...That says enough about him.
They brought in Ritchie, Bunting, Kase, Kampf as UFA's...No way he plays over these guys to start at least. - Santo_44
He played 6 of 7 games in last years playoffs, hardly a “mostly” |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Back to life is he? Lol
I just checked… that guy played 23 years… from 67’ to 80’
Maybe he’s the reason the leafs never won a cup again - Dozzer
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fifty__missions
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Disagree
They can be more talented but not as useful
Skill is not everything whatsoever - Dozzer
Exactly. Basically, the Leafs need more wieners in their lineup. Guys you don't want to be beside on a faceoff. Sadly, Engvall does not bring it. He and Gauthier should play no contact men's league together. LEGENDS. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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....... - Leafs43
Wait I’m wrong!!
It was 57’ til 80’
*what a dumb moment for me* lol |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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oh man, cant wait until we pencil this guy in as the 7th Dman in 5 years
Corey Pronman
@coreypronman
Strong start to Liiga season for TOR defense prospect Topi Niemela with 8 points in 9 games. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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oh man, cant wait until we pencil this guy in as the 7th Dman in 5 years - senstroll
Where did he slot in on Mike's prospect list?
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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oh man, cant wait until we pencil this guy in as the 7th Dman in 5 years - senstroll
after his 1st NHL game, he'll be declared a bust and should be traded for a conditional 7th rd pick |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;) Joined: 08.30.2006
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Kerfoot is already guaranteed to be a 3rd line winger
Him Kampf Bunting/Kase
Just wait and see. - Dozzer
I think it will be the 3K line or K3
Bunting with JT and WN |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Who do they get rid of to get Liljegren up here?
They don’t have the cap space.
And they’re not going to put Liljegren in a shut down role which is what the second pairing is. - Dozzer
Liljegren looked great with Muzzin and has had an outstanding camp thusfar. He's not making the squad as he is waivers exempt and, well, it's a small sample set but I am very much liking them as a pair down the road.
Thinking Liljegren is the very last cut made and they will make it clear to him that he is the future. Really loving this kid's progression! |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;) Joined: 08.30.2006
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Wait I’m wrong!!
It was 57’ til 80’
*what a dumb BLOND moment for me* lol - Dozzer
fixed it for yeah |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I think it will be the 3K line or K3
Bunting with JT and WN - dmnted
Nope, I’ll be shocked if they don’t put Mikheyev with them… who knows maybe he’s the one they want to trade so they are putting in a spot where his points will be higher |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Liljegren looked great with Muzzin and has had an outstanding camp thusfar. He's not making the squad as he is waivers exempt and, well, it's a small sample set but I am very much liking them as a pair down the road.
Thinking Liljegren is the very last cut made and they will make it clear to him that he is the future. Really loving this kid's progression! - mjones242
Listen I’m not against Liljegren but there’s no way a team that considers themselves a cup contender will go with two rookie d men.
And like I said, pairing two is a shut down pairing, so unless it’s the type of guy that improves Muzzin or Holl in that role they won’t be split apart |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Liljegren looked great with Muzzin and has had an outstanding camp thusfar. He's not making the squad as he is waivers exempt and, well, it's a small sample set but I am very much liking them as a pair down the road.
Thinking Liljegren is the very last cut made and they will make it clear to him that he is the future. Really loving this kid's progression! - mjones242
same here, I feel like he's taken a huge step from last year...
I think the kid deserves a shot.. |
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fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Liljegren looked great with Muzzin and has had an outstanding camp thusfar. He's not making the squad as he is waivers exempt and, well, it's a small sample set but I am very much liking them as a pair down the road.
Thinking Liljegren is the very last cut made and they will make it clear to him that he is the future. Really loving this kid's progression! - mjones242
I don't agree with this assessment whatsoever. Llijgren is FIVE YEARS in at this point. He's a first round pick who can't beat out Travis Dermott for a spot. The job was his to take. The future? Pfft. The expectation that this guy will live up to the promise of a first round pick is gone. Don't be surprised if he and Robertson are trade bait. May not get you much, but Dubas has few other chips. |
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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That makes us one injury away from Kampf being our second line center.
No thanks. - Leafs43
I was of the same thinking. Kerfoot is just in an awkward cap hit for playing 3rd line winger. Not skilled enough to be a 2nd line winger and to expensive for 3rd. If a center goes down they he is really useful being able to slot in as as a 2C.
I was originally on the trade him side but I’m leaning towards keeping him just as Center depth. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I'm not just a pretty face.. - bixll
100% agree, if you remove the word "just" |
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Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Fredericton, N.B. Joined: 12.18.2013
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I was of the same thinking. Kerfoot is just in an awkward cap hit for playing 3rd line winger. Not skilled enough to be a 2nd line winger and to expensive for 3rd. If a center goes down they he is really useful being able to slot in as as a 2C.
I was originally on the trade him side but I’m leaning towards keeping him just as Center depth. - bryant
Nice to read that I'm not the only one sold on this. If he was $1.5 mil., then no quarrel. Extra 2 million can be better spent. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I expected Robertson to be considered more seriously for a roster spot this year.
Guess he didn't show enough at camp to stick around?
There's still plenty of time for him to bounce back though. - Scabeh
He's an undersized 2nd round pick, two years removed from being drafted.
Only 9 guys from the first round from 2019 have more NHL games than him.
If you take out Nils Hoglander (40th overall Vancouver pick - 56 games), their are only three other guys from the 2019 2nd round who have played a game in the NHL - Shane Pinto with Ottawa (12 games) and Arthur Kaliyev (1 game).
Has Leafs Nation (and Habs Nation?) over-rated Robertson? Probably.
But should we be worried if he plays on the Marlies this year? Hell no. That's where he should be. |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Listen I’m not against Liljegren but there’s no way a team that considers themselves a cup contender will go with two rookie d men.
And like I said, pairing two is a shut down pairing, so unless it’s the type of guy that improves Muzzin or Holl in that role they won’t be split apart - Dozzer
Yeah, I'm really not suggesting that this year Liljegren will be a regular but I do see him being as much in the future.
Frankly, I think he's better than Holl who I truly believe is vastly overrated. |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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I don't agree with this assessment whatsoever. Llijgren is FIVE YEARS in at this point. He's a first round pick who can't beat out Travis Dermott for a spot. The job was his to take. The future? Pfft. The expectation that this guy will live up to the promise of a first round pick is gone. Don't be surprised if he and Robertson are trade bait. - fifty__missions
Drafted in 2017. Only 5 years in if you include this upcoming season - which wouldn't make sense.
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fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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He's an undersized 2nd round pick, two years removed from being drafted.
If you take out Nils Hoglander (40th overall Vancouver pick - 56 games), their are only three other guys from the 2019 2nd round who have played a game in the NHL - Shane Pinto with Ottawa (12 games) and Arthur Kaliyev (1 game).
Has Leafs Nation (and Habs Nation?) over-rated Robertson? Probably.
But should we be worried if he plays on the Marlies this year? Hell no. That's where he should be. - Atomic Wedgie
He's not a heavy enough player for the NHL game at this point. Gets bounced all over the place in both ends. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I was of the same thinking. Kerfoot is just in an awkward cap hit for playing 3rd line winger. Not skilled enough to be a 2nd line winger and to expensive for 3rd. If a center goes down they he is really useful being able to slot in as as a 2C.
I was originally on the trade him side but I’m leaning towards keeping him just as Center depth. - bryant
Kerfoot is roughly average for a 3C, and Kampf is roughly average for a 3 winger
So it pans out |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Nice to read that I'm not the only one sold on this. If he was $1.5 mil., then no quarrel. Extra 2 million can be better spent. - Leafsmart
oh for sure, if Kerfoot had a cap hit of $1.5M,he'd be a solid depth piece, but 3.5M is too high |
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