Not dismissing. Last year jvr coots and bee were great together for a bit. Coots imo makes other players better. I would have no problem moving g and tk off his line to balance other lines. But it’s not up to us. Shame really. I’m sure the coaches have, but there are a couple other line combos I’d be interested in seeing.
- Peter Richards

I agree on seeing some other line combos, especially after Hayes comes back. Lots of potential fun lines with the players we have in my opinion.

Depth means nothing if your lineup cannot outplay the best players on the other team.

The Flyers have been trying to shut teams down and score with their secondary depth for years.

I’m sure this season the outcome will be different.

A team of ditch diggers isn’t going anywhere.

From Broad Street Hockey

Sure we’d love to see Frost piling up points in these preseason games, but just because he isn’t doesn’t mean that he’s still not doing other good things. His first action in more than eight months was admittedly a struggle, but he’s rebounded with two solid efforts to follow and is doing the little things right that usually build towards something bigger.

Small sample size proof? At 5-on-5 in those three games, Frost has won both the scoring chance (14-13) and the high-danger chances (5-3) battles thus far per NaturalStatTrick. While it hasn’t shown up on the scoresheet, winning those battles isn’t nothing, and shows that Frost is contributing but just not generating results just yet.

If he keeps building his game shift-by-shift, period-by-period, and game-by-game, the results will come.

So put that panic button away for Morgan Frost

From Broad Street Hockey

Sure we’d love to see Frost piling up points in these preseason games, but just because he isn’t doesn’t mean that he’s still not doing other good things. His first action in more than eight months was admittedly a struggle, but he’s rebounded with two solid efforts to follow and is doing the little things right that usually build towards something bigger.

Small sample size proof? At 5-on-5 in those three games, Frost has won both the scoring chance (14-13) and the high-danger chances (5-3) battles thus far per NaturalStatTrick. While it hasn’t shown up on the scoresheet, winning those battles isn’t nothing, and shows that Frost is contributing but just not generating results just yet.

If he keeps building his game shift-by-shift, period-by-period, and game-by-game, the results will come.

So put that panic button away for Morgan Frost
- wcorvette

Scoring chances dead even, superb analysis

From Broad Street Hockey

Sure we’d love to see Frost piling up points in these preseason games, but just because he isn’t doesn’t mean that he’s still not doing other good things. His first action in more than eight months was admittedly a struggle, but he’s rebounded with two solid efforts to follow and is doing the little things right that usually build towards something bigger.

Small sample size proof? At 5-on-5 in those three games, Frost has won both the scoring chance (14-13) and the high-danger chances (5-3) battles thus far per NaturalStatTrick. While it hasn’t shown up on the scoresheet, winning those battles isn’t nothing, and shows that Frost is contributing but just not generating results just yet.

If he keeps building his game shift-by-shift, period-by-period, and game-by-game, the results will come.

So put that panic button away for Morgan Frost
- wcorvette

Frost for jeff carter...wait for it.

FWIW. TSN has their Top 50 list out. Couts comes in at #49. These lists are what they are. But I think it does say something about the lack of top end talent on the Flyers.
- Djapana

32 teams, 23 players per team. 49 out of 736.

Sounds like Top end to me.

Its also seeing how they battle them, not just the outcome
- bradster

If all you wanna know is if they sink or swim vs NHL talent, just put em up against Giroux's line in scrimmages. You don't need to waste a preseason game performing that experiment.

If all you wanna know is if they sink or swim vs NHL talent, just put em up against Giroux's line in scrimmages. You don't need to waste a preseason game performing that experiment.
- Tomahawk

you need game situation against players other than your teammates.

I agree on seeing some other line combos, especially after Hayes comes back. Lots of potential fun lines with the players we have in my opinion.
- arichardson22

I'd love to see Oskar - Coots - TK reunited.

Show me one post, just one, where I said the Flyers made all the *right* moves and filled *all* of their weaknesses. I don't have to wait this time because I know you don't have any! This is what I am talking about. I do like Fletcher's off season moves and I do think that some gaping holes were filled, like, hmmmm .... finally obtaining a legitimate set of top 4 defenseman. But we will not know if these are the right moves until the season plays out. There is a difference between good moves that you support and proving they were the right moves. I don't even have a concern yet about the scoring. I am simply stating an observation that this Flyers team has to work extremely hard to get goals because they lack that sniper, 40+ goal scoring talent in their lineup. Whether it becomes an issue that we should be concerned about only time will tell. The only thing I have posted I am concerned about is Frost being ready for the NHL, but as you know, from the very beginning, even before pre-season started, I was posting that Frost has played only 4 periods of hockey over the past 18 months and thus most likely will not make the team out of camp. Since I have watched him play, I have additional concerns over what Frost's ceiling actually is, but I'll wait and see how he does once he gets his confidence and game back completely.
- jd250

Show you one post? LOL. You were preaching it the entire off season. Fletcher addressed the teams moves and changed the culture. Over and over. You labeled them as a team that could contend. You didn't make the observation of needing a 40 goal scorer the entire off season. You harped and harped on the moves. It's all reactionary to some pre season games when they didn't even have their lineup in place. It's really simple. Lets put the team on the ice at this point and see what happens. You have concerns about Frost just as you did about Farabee. He's played 3 pre season games in a year. Give him a chance.

Depth means nothing if your lineup cannot outplay the best players on the other team.

The Flyers have been trying to shut teams down and score with their secondary depth for years.

I’m sure this season the outcome will be different.
- FlyerFan3260

Why can't the regular season outcome be similar to 19-20? They were the 6th best team in the league with this goal production from their forwards in 69 games.

Konecny 24
Hayes 23
Couturier 22
Giroux 21
JVR 19
Laughton 13
Voracek 12
Lindblom 11
Farabee 8
Raffl 8
Pitlick 8
NAK 7

I'd love to see Oskar - Coots - TK reunited.
- Tomahawk

Agree, that was a very strong line.

I guess we can say the Duo of Couts-Tk can plug and play with lots of options: Giroux, Oskar, Farabee, and JVR.

We really do have a solid forward group (on paper). Really wish Hayes was healthy now.

Why can't the regular season outcome be similar to 19-20? They were the 6th best team in the league with this goal production from their forwards in 69 games.

Konecny 24
Hayes 23
Couturier 22
Giroux 21
JVR 19
Laughton 13
Voracek 12
Lindblom 11
Farabee 8
Raffl 8
Pitlick 8
NAK 7
- Feanor

Because last year happened, people can’t stop harping on it. Obviously you have to come out and correct things but folks aren’t taking it as an anomaly.

Depth means nothing if your lineup cannot outplay the best players on the other team.

The Flyers have been trying to shut teams down and score with their secondary depth for years.

I’m sure this season the outcome will be different.

A team of ditch diggers isn’t going anywhere.
- FlyerFan3260

Your characterization of the team being a bunch of ditch diggers is not accurate. Look, the extremes need to stop. This team is a playoff level team. It is not a contender and it is not a bottom feeder. If it defends well and gets quality goaltending, it could be a little more or less if not but that's what this team is. The overreactions are ridiculous.

If all you wanna know is if they sink or swim vs NHL talent, just put em up against Giroux's line in scrimmages. You don't need to waste a preseason game performing that experiment.
- Tomahawk

I guess why even have any pre season games for those guys. Just see how they are in scrimmage.

There is really at this point one major area of concern heading into the regular season. The Flyers due to the injury to Hayes, don't have a legit 2C. Their options are Brassard, Laughton, Frost and Giroux. Not in any order. Or they make a player move. Time to put the team on the ice and see what happens.

Personally, I play Frost at center. If it turns out he looks overmatched or is floundering, then send him down and play Laughton at center. Flyers need to be developing young players and giving them playing time.

There is really at this point one major area of concern heading into the regular season. The Flyers due to the injury to Hayes, don't have a legit 2C. Their options are Brassard, Laughton, Frost and Giroux. Not in any order. Or they make a player move. Time to put the team on the ice and see what happens.
- MJL

Agree, and we wont be the only team with this issue. Not everyone has multiple top centers...... Injuries happen, and would rather it now than at playoff time

Not this year anyway and dont see Lindblom with 20 either. think Atkinson will be a 25 goal guy with good PP time
- hfc355

I think Oscar gets mid-20s

Your characterization of the team being a bunch of ditch diggers is not accurate. Look, the extremes need to stop. This team is a playoff level team. It is not a contender and it is not a bottom feeder. If it defends well and gets quality goaltending, it could be a little more or less if not but that's what this team is. The overreactions are ridiculous.
- MJL

Would totally agree with your assestment..they are a bubble playoff team not a contender...they could over achieve and win a round or 2 and they could under achieve and place 5 to 6 in Division. Hopefully they will at least be more entertaining then last year

Bunnaman and Rubstov sent to AHL. Foerster still remains. Interesting.

There is really at this point one major area of concern heading into the regular season. The Flyers due to the injury to Hayes, don't have a legit 2C. Their options are Brassard, Laughton, Frost and Giroux. Not in any order. Or they make a player move. Time to put the team on the ice and see what happens.

Personally, I play Frost at center. If it turns out he looks overmatched or is floundering, then send him down and play Laughton at center. Flyers need to be developing young players and giving them playing time.
- MJL

IMO the major concern is Hart..unless he performs at a very strong level they will be in trouble..losing Hayes definitely hurts but they can manage that but they cant overcome a poor year by Hart

Bunnaman and Rubstov sent to AHL. Foerster still remains. Interesting.
- arichardson22

Looks like Seeler going to be the 7th dman.

IMO the major concern is Hart..unless he performs at a very strong level they will be in trouble..losing Hayes definitely hurts but they can manage that but they cant overcome a poor year by Hart
- hfc355

He's looked solid so far IMO. Looks to me like he has his confidence back.

Looks like Seeler going to be the 7th dman.
- Hextall271

Foerester has earned a spot over Frost..send Frost a message and send him back to Phantoms..Foerester has certainly out worked him...

He's looked solid so far IMO. Looks to me like he has his confidence back.
- Hextall271

Hopefully we shall see...cant tell till real games start and he starts facing real NHL players