Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Weather only affects the losing team, not the winning one. - ImThatGuy
You’re definitely That Guy eh.
How dense can one be.
I never said weather didn’t effect both teams.
What I’m saying is play that divisional round game in a dome and I think the Ravens win.
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hehateme
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NHL_Watcher
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Biron on TSN1050 talking why an Eichel trade is difficult to make: "If the Sabres were to trade Jack Eichel, they would need to get 8M-8.5M in return to be able to get above the cap floor, who is going to give up players that make up $8.5M so that the Sabres are cap compliant?" - GilPerreault11
They can sign me for 8.5 Mil... it could happen......
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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You’re definitely That Guy eh.
How dense can one be.
I never said weather didn’t effect both teams.
What I’m saying is play that divisional round game in a dome and I think the Ravens win. - Pegullaville
Peytons losses in playoffs when a colt
Home
At. miami
At jets
At new england
At new england
Home
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At chargers
Super bowl
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Hardly bad weather
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Biron on TSN1050 talking why an Eichel trade is difficult to make: "If the Sabres were to trade Jack Eichel, they would need to get 8M-8.5M in return to be able to get above the cap floor, who is going to give up players that make up $8.5M so that the Sabres are cap compliant?" - GilPerreault11
1. I'm pretty sure he's going on ltir if he's not traded, so that money will not be used regardless.
2. It's much easier to find a way to the cap floor than it is to get under the ceiling.
3. Some of you here have the patience of a Saint to talk about this guy everyday without puking. |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Weather only affects the losing team, not the winning one. - ImThatGuy
Peyton must have had some bad weather in that dome in January |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I don’t remember Denver playing in a Dome. - Pegullaville
2 of his 3 playoff losses as bronco was in a dome and super bowl
Other at home
Did you look up their losses before this claim? |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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1. I'm pretty sure he's going on ltir if he's not traded, so that money will not be used regardless.
2. It's much easier to find a way to the cap floor than it is to get under the ceiling.
3. Some of you here have the patience of a Saint to talk about this guy everyday without puking. - Carubba-Kaleta
Why would the Sabres put him on LTIR when they are barely above the cap floor? |
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I don’t remember Denver playing in a Dome. - Pegullaville
i do remember denver having a real defense though |
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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i do remember denver having a real defense though - SabresFaninIndiana
The Bills do too.
Which is all the more better that they play outdoors with 70 + thousand screaming |
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Peytons losses in playoffs when a colt
Home
At. miami
At jets
At new england
At new england
Home
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At chargers
Super bowl
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Hardly bad weather - homiedclown
peyton's troubles in Indy were a crappy defense though, im not sure weather was the problem, although he did always play worse when not at home in the dome. that place would get loud as hell in the playoffs |
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IndianaSabresFan
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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peyton's troubles in Indy were a crappy defense though, im not sure weather was the problem, although he did always play worse when not at home in the dome. that place would get loud as hell in the playoffs - SabresFaninIndiana
Shut up you chode |
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Why would the Sabres put him on LTIR when they are barely above the cap floor? - kingcong39
After all the cap floor research a few days ago, seems it would count towards the floor. It still makes 0 sense to use LTIR. There's no benefit and it actually hurts them (in ways that won't be relevant this year).
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Shut up you chode - IndianaSabresFan
Giggle giggle
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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After all the cap floor research a few days ago, seems it would count towards the floor. It still makes 0 sense to use LTIR. There's no benefit and it actually hurts them (in ways that won't be relevant this year). - Lunaion
The bold is why I asked what reason the Sabres would have for doing it. |
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The bold is why I asked what reason the Sabres would have for doing it. - kingcong39
It doesnt hurt them. The salary cap rules are team friendly, meaning if you need it to count to get to the floor, then it counts. If you need it to NOT count because you are over the cap if it does, then it doesnt count. The Blog had a good explanation.
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Mannings arm was toast by the time he was in Denver. The D won those Super Bowls and Manning game planned his way to not lose them. The one he won in Indy is all his. Still one of the smartest minds when it comes to football - if you havent seen him and Eli on Monday night football on ESPN II, its a MasterClass in football. |
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QuinnFan
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Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory Joined: 07.29.2021
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They can sign me for 8.5 Mil... it could happen......
- hehateme
What I don't get is why this is a (frank)ing problem. Phoenix didn't seem to have an issue acquiring a dozen picks in the next couple drafts by taking on cap. Why should we have to sit at the gd floor when we have an owner that poops golden eggs?
I call foul! |
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QuinnFan
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Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory Joined: 07.29.2021
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Mannings arm was toast by the time he was in Denver. The D won those Super Bowls and Manning game planned his way to not lose them. The one he won in Indy is all his. Still one of the smartest minds when it comes to football - if you havent seen him and Eli on Monday night football on ESPN II, its a MasterClass in football. - atlsabsfan
Better than Romo? |
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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2 of his 3 playoff losses as bronco was in a dome and super bowl
Other at home
Did you look up their losses before this claim? - homiedclown
No, but I have heard countless numbers of former NFL players, coaches, and members of the media refer to the stigma of dome teams vs out door teams and the difference in mentality/physicality.
But here, since you wanted proof.
“Before Round 1 in January ’14, I thanked Chase Stuart for the following stat: “Dome teams are 3-22 in the playoffs when they’re outdoors and it’s 35 degrees or colder.” The next day, New Orleans won in Philly in 25-degree weather. Whoops. The following year, the Cowboys lost in 24-degree Lambeau weather to make it 4-23 overall. Tuck this stat away in case the Falcons or Saints travel to Philly next weekend.”
That article was from 2018.
In the 2018 playoffs:
Philly beat Atlanta 15-10, 32 degrees. Divisonal round. The irony considering the article above.
Philly then beat Minnesota 38-7 in the NFC Chamiponship game, 42 degrees though so for the essence of the trial we don’t count this
Let’s jump to 2019:
Chiefs beat colts 31-13, 32 degrees, divisional round.
2020:
Chiefs beat Texans 51-31, 29 degrees. Divisional round.
2021:
Bills beat Colts 24-21, 34 degrees, wild card.
Rams beat Seahawks 30-20, 39 degrees. Doesn’t count for the study above but it is noted.
Packers beat Rams 32-18, 35 degrees, divisional round.
So by my math. That gives Dome teams a current day record of 4-28 on the road in out door cities playing at 35 degrees or lower.
Even if I give you the Rams beating the Seahawks, and I’ll even toss you the Bucs beating the Packers in the NFC Chamiponship game since Florida climate is hot even though they play outdoors. It’s still a 6-28 record.
Happy ?
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lulags
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Location: St Louis Joined: 02.24.2007
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-Dahlin needs to show more urgency in his game, especially in the defensive zone. He often looks too lackadaisical in his own end.
Couldn’t agree more. I believe there are many factors that have contributed to this, Eichels similar attitude is one of the Key contributors IMO |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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-Dahlin needs to show more urgency in his game, especially in the defensive zone. He often looks too lackadaisical in his own end.
Couldn’t agree more. I believe there are many factors that have contributed to this, Eichels similar attitude is one of the Key contributors IMO - lulags
I think it's due to Dahlin's preferred, deliberate pace of play more than anything else. |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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It doesnt hurt them. The salary cap rules are team friendly, meaning if you need it to count to get to the floor, then it counts. If you need it to NOT count because you are over the cap if it does, then it doesnt count. The Blog had a good explanation.
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Mannings arm was toast by the time he was in Denver. The D won those Super Bowls and Manning game planned his way to not lose them. The one he won in Indy is all his. Still one of the smartest minds when it comes to football - if you havent seen him and Eli on Monday night football on ESPN II, its a MasterClass in football. - atlsabsfan
Interesting reading.
https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq |
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It doesnt hurt them. The salary cap rules are team friendly, meaning if you need it to count to get to the floor, then it counts. If you need it to NOT count because you are over the cap if it does, then it doesnt count. The Blog had a good explanation.
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Mannings arm was toast by the time he was in Denver. The D won those Super Bowls and Manning game planned his way to not lose them. The one he won in Indy is all his. Still one of the smartest minds when it comes to football - if you havent seen him and Eli on Monday night football on ESPN II, its a MasterClass in football. - atlsabsfan
That's the most common misconception of LTIR.
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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No, but I have heard countless numbers of former NFL players, coaches, and members of the media refer to the stigma of dome teams vs out door teams and the difference in mentality/physicality.
But here, since you wanted proof.
“Before Round 1 in January ’14, I thanked Chase Stuart for the following stat: “Dome teams are 3-22 in the playoffs when they’re outdoors and it’s 35 degrees or colder.” The next day, New Orleans won in Philly in 25-degree weather. Whoops. The following year, the Cowboys lost in 24-degree Lambeau weather to make it 4-23 overall. Tuck this stat away in case the Falcons or Saints travel to Philly next weekend.”
That article was from 2018.
In the 2018 playoffs:
Philly beat Atlanta 15-10, 32 degrees. Divisonal round. The irony considering the article above.
Philly then beat Minnesota 38-7 in the NFC Chamiponship game, 42 degrees though so for the essence of the trial we don’t count this
Let’s jump to 2019:
Chiefs beat colts 31-13, 32 degrees, divisional round.
2020:
Chiefs beat Texans 51-31, 29 degrees. Divisional round.
2021:
Bills beat Colts 24-21, 34 degrees, wild card.
Rams beat Seahawks 30-20, 39 degrees. Doesn’t count for the study above but it is noted.
Packers beat Rams 32-18, 35 degrees, divisional round.
So by my math. That gives Dome teams a current day record of 4-28 on the road in out door cities playing at 35 degrees or lower.
Even if I give you the Rams beating the Seahawks, and I’ll even toss you the Bucs beating the Packers in the NFC Chamiponship game since Florida climate is hot even though they play outdoors. It’s still a 6-28 record.
Happy ? - Pegullaville
so your comparing these temps to the -51 below zero game I quoted
got it
again last game where weather messed a team was when the chargers had to go to cincy in 1982 where it was -51 below zero with wind chill
you did nothing to prove me wrong here
the difference between -51 and 25 degrees is the same as the difference between 25 degrees and the vegas strip in august
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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so your comparing these temps to the -51 below zero game I quoted
got it
again last game where weather messed a team was when the chargers had to go to cincy in 1982 where it was -51 below zero with wind chill
you did nothing to prove me wrong here
the difference between -51 and 25 degrees is the same as the difference between 25 degrees and the vegas strip in august - homiedclown
Because your argument is fundamentally flawed.
You chose an outlier game.
I gave you a 32 game sample size that showed dome teams losing outdoors.
It does not have to be -51 to effect a game.
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Wetbandit1
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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2 of his 3 playoff losses as bronco was in a dome and super bowl
Other at home
Did you look up their losses before this claim? - homiedclown
The other was Joe Flacco decided he could actually play QB for like 5 games. |
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