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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:54 AM ET

- homiedclown



ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:54 AM ET

- homiedclown



ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:54 AM ET

- homiedclown



ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:54 AM ET

- homiedclown



ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:54 AM ET

- homiedclown



ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
i don't know...it would seem as if they need eakins' $2.25m more than caligula's 750k
- Michael Pachla


Sabres don't need Eakin's celery! They're over by 3.5M, and Eakin's demotion keeps about 1.2 on the cap anyway.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:58 AM ET
Least of the teams worries.

Would you buy a house without a home inspection or without title insurance ?

Adams is trying to trade Eichel like he were selling a used car.

And yet we wonder why we’re still sitting here with our peckers in our hands

- Pegullaville


my thinking is that they'd only give out the info to teams with what they consider serious offers...i'd do the same
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:59 AM ET
not nearly even close to enough
- SabresFaninIndiana


To be clear, I was not remotely suggesting that was all to the trade.

It's nothing more than a fun idea on a condition to add based on Eichel's condition and the surgery he needs.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:01 AM ET
Sabres don't need Eakin's celery! They're over by 3.5M, and Eakin's demotion keeps about 1.2 on the cap anyway.
- TheSabresTaco

depends what happens with jack and what the return is
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:01 AM ET
my thinking is that they'd only give out the info to teams with what they consider serious offers...i'd do the same
- Michael Pachla


Conversely, if you are a team legitimately interested in trading for Eichel, how can you make what Adams would consider a serious offer without seeing the medical details on Eichel, so you can know if you will allow Eichel to have his preferred surgery?
tightpants69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 09.28.2021

Oct 7 @ 11:04 AM ET
Conversely, if you are a team legitimately interested in trading for Eichel, how can you make what Adams would consider a serious offer without seeing the medical details on Eichel, so you can know if you will allow Eichel to have his preferred surgery?
- kingcong39

The medical details or medical records issue is being overblown.

The issue has been the reluctance of the Sabres to absolve 100% responsibility if the surgery doesn’t go well.

It’s why the ball is moving now, the Sabres, Brisson and the NHL are working to come to a compromise. It’s called an ADR- Alternative Dispute Resolution
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 7 @ 11:07 AM ET
my thinking is that they'd only give out the info to teams with what they consider serious offers...i'd do the same
- Michael Pachla


But teams are not putting out serious offers if they don’t know what they are getting themselves into…

There has to be a give and take on both ends here
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 7 @ 11:08 AM ET
you'd take the first out too I'd assume. That's a lot of real estate Vegas has to give up. I just don't think they do it without the pick.
- TheSabresTaco


I appreciate the effort in looking at this in a multi-dimensional manner.

That said, the trade components all don't make sense to me I'd prefer other players/prospects from VGK...
• As 36 said, much rather have Korczac (RD) .. put him in, take out Rondbjerg (LW) and hopefully he can become Dahlin's or Power's partner.
• take out Elvenes & McNabb, replace with Theodore
• not giving any Draft picks back

Primary** Trade Components:
Krebs (*$0), Korczak (*$0), Smith ($5.0), Theodore ($5.2), Tuch ($4.75)
For
Eichel ($10.0), Olofsson ($3.0m), Tage/Hinostroza/Bjork(~$1.3)

* Not currently included on CapFriendly roster.
** fill in the blanks with prospects in pipeline to balance contracts as necessary.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:09 AM ET
Conversely, if you are a team legitimately interested in trading for Eichel, how can you make what Adams would consider a serious offer without seeing the medical details on Eichel, so you can know if you will allow Eichel to have his preferred surgery?
- kingcong39


idk...all speculation, really...but i give the team nothing unless i feel they're serious about trading for him
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:09 AM ET
Sabres are over the cap floor by half a mil. Vegas is over the ceiling by 4M. Sabres getting 1 prospect for Eichel is a failure.

Sabres now have 25 players on their roster, 26 once Tuch is ready. You need more trades with this proposal.

- TheSabresTaco


I count 4 forwards (Eakin, Hayden, Caggiula, Jonsson-Fjallby) of the 14 currently on CapFriendly, not including Ruotsalainen, that could be waived and nobody would care.

Plenty of space for the players suggested in that trade.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:10 AM ET
But teams are not putting out serious offers if they don’t know what they are getting themselves into…

There has to be a give and take on both ends here

- Pegullaville

it's well known that he has a neck issue that needs surgery...what more do you need to know?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
The medical details or medical records issue is being overblown.

The issue has been the reluctance of the Sabres to absolve 100% responsibility if the surgery doesn’t go well.

It’s why the ball is moving now, the Sabres, Brisson and the NHL are working to come to a compromise. It’s called an ADR- Alternative Dispute Resolution

- tightpants69

nothing is ever overblown here
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
Lol why does he have to explain anything to the fans?

Who cares if he did or didn’t share Eichels records

If a team was serious. He would give them up.

You can’t just free wheel a players medical records out in the open. Teams like Tampa could request them just for inside info.

- Sabretooth9

lol.

What inside info are they gona get from his records.

St Louis openly sent Taresenkos medicals to all teams.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
my thinking is that they'd only give out the info to teams with what they consider serious offers...i'd do the same
- Michael Pachla

Why?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
Why?
- ImThatGuy

it's proprietary information?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
I appreciate the effort in looking at this in a multi-dimensional manner.

That said, the trade components all don't make sense to me I'd prefer other players/prospects from VGK...
• As 36 said, much rather have Korczac (RD) .. put him in, take out Rondbjerg (LW) and hopefully he can become Dahlin's or Power's partner.
• take out Elvenes & McNabb, replace with Theodore
• not giving any Draft picks back

Primary** Trade Components:
Krebs (*$0), Korczak (*$0), Smith ($5.0), Theodore ($5.2), Tuch ($4.75)
For
Eichel ($10.0), Olofsson ($3.0m), Tage/Hinostroza/Bjork(~$1.3)

* Not currently included on CapFriendly roster.
** fill in the blanks with prospects in pipeline to balance contracts as necessary.

- IonSabres


I mean I like your offer better, but I think McCrimmon hangs the (frank) up on you. I took reasonableness into consideration as well.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
it's proprietary information?
- Michael Pachla

And it seems to be backfiring becuase now Adams is handing out teh information freely.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
it's well known that he has a neck issue that needs surgery...what more do you need to know?
- Michael Pachla


Oh maybe they know the standoff and want to see if what Eichel wants is justifiable.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
it's well known that he has a neck issue that needs surgery...what more do you need to know?
- Michael Pachla


The same 'more' that allowed the Sabres to come to the decision that they demand fusion while Eichel demands replacement?

That detail seems incredibly important and vital to a team trading for Eichel.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
The same 'more' that allowed the Sabres to come to the decision that they demand fusion while Eichel demands replacement?

That detail seems incredibly important and vital to a team trading for Eichel.

- kingcong39

Nah that "Propriitary information"


Member how I said people come to the defense of the Sabres, regardless.

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