GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Just a continuation of last year. He is good. - winsix
Love him. But it really looks like he's ready to take another step.
And me, being the genius that I am, drafted him in my fantasy league. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Love him. But it really looks like he's ready to take another step.
And me, being the genius that I am, drafted him in my fantasy league. - GreatGigInTheSky
Test.
Holy poop I’m not banned? |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Doz wasn't around I bet. - bixll
No, we really needed a mod last night. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Test.
Holy poop I’m not banned? - Arctic_AARDVARK
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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- bixll
My buddy has some lawn darts. Had to order them from England because apparently they're illegal here? poops fun.
Got that, Ladder Ball, and Horseshoes going up at their trailer. Great times. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Dead man posting - Canada Cup
Oh well.
It’s not like I can’t find something else to do while I sit around at work..
Boom beach does get boring after awhile tho. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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No, last night was special. - shack67
Well, that's good at least, I guess. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Oh, I am fully aware.. I stated that the bullpen was the issue and that Montoyo can't be faulted for the Bullpen struggles. You can pin some of it on him, saying he used the wrong guys, but it's all he had at that time. Chatwood, Dolis, Hand were just terrible - PatC80
If I was to stick Montoyo with blame, I'd probably look at the way he handled his starters more than his bullpen. I would think it's up to Pete Walker to advise him which guy, he thinks, has it and who doesn't - or who lines up best against whom, and whatnot. When a Chatwood or a Dolis or a f'n Hand sucks, especially with the 3 batter minimum, that's not entirely on Montoyo.
Where I did get frustrated was knowing that the bullpen was weakened and overutilized, and then watching early hooks on a starter because they are entering the 3rd time through a lineup despite dominating. At least wait until the starter gets into some trouble. Look at the pitches. If they're losing velocity, losing the zone, or if the opposition batters have gotten a good read on what they have to offer - then it's a good time to pull them. All too often early this year in particular (he seemed to get better in August/September) a starter was given the hook before trouble could brew which taxed the underqualified - but overperforming bullpen too much, and probably resulted in more poor performances out of them in the end.
You can also throw Shatkins under the bus - if they are collectively going with a Sports Science approach towards baseball where you're going to pull your starter after 2 times through the lineup, then you'd better stock your bullpen for such an approach - you need some longer arms, and a number of quality relievers. That's something they absolutely didn't do. |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Dead man posting - Canada Cup
Hopefully all the alts as well.
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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I never played, but there was a comedian that did a wicked funny bit about lawn darts. I didn’t even know what they were until then. - RickJames77
Yeah, there it is. You can't take the Boston out! |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Test.
Holy poop I’m not banned? - Arctic_AARDVARK
You just had to test on a Nylander post, eh? |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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You just had to test on a Nylander post, eh? - GreatGigInTheSky
Lol, didn’t even read it tbh.
I’ll probably get banned for commenting on Nylander tho |
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Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON Joined: 12.22.2014
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If I was to stick Montoyo with blame, I'd probably look at the way he handled his starters more than his bullpen. I would think it's up to Pete Walker to advise him which guy, he thinks, has it and who doesn't - or who lines up best against whom, and whatnot. When a Chatwood or a Dolis or a f'n Hand sucks, especially with the 3 batter minimum, that's not entirely on Montoyo.
Where I did get frustrated was knowing that the bullpen was weakened and overutilized, and then watching early hooks on a starter because they are entering the 3rd time through a lineup despite dominating. At least wait until the starter gets into some trouble. Look at the pitches. If they're losing velocity, losing the zone, or if the opposition batters have gotten a good read on what they have to offer - then it's a good time to pull them. All too often early this year in particular (he seemed to get better in August/September) a starter was given the hook before trouble could brew which taxed the underqualified - but overperforming bullpen too much, and probably resulted in more poor performances out of them in the end.
You can also throw Shatkins under the bus - if they are collectively going with a Sports Science approach towards baseball where you're going to pull your starter after 2 times through the lineup, then you'd better stock your bullpen for such an approach - you need some longer arms, and a number of quality relievers. That's something they absolutely didn't do. - Monkeypunk
Good perspective and point on overtaxing a crummy bullpen with early pulls / not stocking up the pen if the plan was to pull starters after twice through the order.
I hate that new strategy of "pull the guy before they see him a 3rd time" personally, in today's day and age with all the video players watch and the ipads in the dugouts etc. it's bullpoop in my opinion.
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Barb34
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Joined: 07.29.2017
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Test
Edit: How TF did I get banned??? Got up and back read 10 pages of BS from the usual suspect and I'm banned.
This place is straight (frank)ed. Unbelievable.
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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Yeah, there it is. You can't take the Boston out! - Monkeypunk
True |
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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My buddy has some lawn darts. Had to order them from England because apparently they're illegal here? poops fun.
Got that, Ladder Ball, and Horseshoes going up at their trailer. Great times. - GreatGigInTheSky
Had that and croquet. That usually turned dangerous as kids. |
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Adam French
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Yeah Dozzer isnt doing a good job here, I don't even care if I get banned for this, it needed to be said. - Santo_44
He's probably been busy or away.
Cant be here 24/7.
Im sure he'll get caught up. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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FB is down,
So there’s a high likelihood of more seniors and alt-right coming in. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.29.2017
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FAFO - Arctic_AARDVARK
Says the true criminal |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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He's probably been busy or away.
Cant be here 24/7.
Im sure he'll get caught up. - Fakepartofme
We will know when the thread is locked.
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RickJames77
Boston Bruins |
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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He's probably been busy or away.
Cant be here 24/7.
Im sure he'll get caught up. - Fakepartofme Also, it’s a bit ridiculous to “need” a ref to moderate. Behaving like an adult is not a lot to ask of everyone here. |
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