I'm sure if the judge gives permission to go forward there will be an argument made that the team did not look out for the kids best interest, and considering they had the rights to his professional hockey career....
- BetweenTheDots

What does this mean in English? Try to be specific.

I personally believe the event(s) likely happened. My anger, though, is directed at Aldrich.
- mohel

Priests continued to get away with being sexual predators because fellow priests, bishops, archbishops, and parents did nothing except move the chairs around.

Larry Nassar continued to abuse hundreds of gymnasts because the victims weren’t believed and coaches and administrators downplayed the complaints and did nothing.

Jerry Sandusky got away with abusing young boys while coaching at Penn State because Joe Paternoster and others ignored complaints and did nothing.

Aldrich continues his predatory acts after leaving Chicago because Blackhawk employees (and others before Aldrich came to Chicago) did nothing.

All of the enablers are largely (not entirely) escaping legal penalties.

I'm sure if the judge gives permission to go forward there will be an argument made that the team did not look out for the kids best interest, and considering they had the rights to his professional hockey career....
- BetweenTheDots

He played for them for a few more years. Also, according to Doe #1, the team therapist, assured him that he would never see Brad Aldrich again and the Hawks had given Aldrich the option to quit or be investigated, at which point he was notified that Aldrich chose to quit. Not sure what how you argue "best interest". The threat was removed, his career continued.

I personally believe the event(s) likely happened. My anger, though, is directed at Aldrich.
- mohel

Why would you be mad at the (alleged) perpetrator?

Apparently, ESPN+ will be streaming 130 KHL games this season, including all playoff and Gagarin Cup games.

Add this to all of the NHL and college games - they’re going all in on hockey.

Apparently, ESPN+ will be streaming 130 KHL games this season, including all playoff and Gagarin Cup games.

Add this to all of the NHL and college games - they’re going all in on hockey.
- StLBravesFan

Great, now all the social issues will be part of each broadcast.

Priests continued to get away with being sexual predators because fellow priests, bishops, archbishops, and parents did nothing except move the chairs around.

Larry Nassar continued to abuse hundreds of gymnasts because the victims weren’t believed and coaches and administrators downplayed the complaints and did nothing.

Jerry Sandusky got away with abusing young boys while coaching at Penn State because Joe Paternoster and others ignored complaints and did nothing.

Aldrich continues his predatory acts after leaving Chicago because Blackhawk employees (and others before Aldrich came to Chicago) did nothing.

All of the enablers are largely (not entirely) escaping legal penalties.
- StLBravesFan

Let's say the victims in this case had called the police. Let's also say Aldrich was found guilty of indecent exposure. Would that mean there wouldn't be more victims in the future? Absolutely not.

The employer can do two things; fire the perp, and not recommend him for another job. Given today's news, the Hawks did both of those things. Yet you are falsely equating this to other cases where employers and law enforcement actively looked away. That's shameful.

Also, how were the Hawks "enablers"?

Why would you be mad at the (alleged) perpetrator?
- paulr

Because he was mean.

Great, now all the social issues will be part of each broadcast.
- powerenforcer

To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.
- Ogilthorpe2

The Plaintiff legal team is toast. They're simply throwing poop against the wall and hoping for something to stick. They have no case. If they did they wouldn't keep refiling trying something new.

Priests continued to get away with being sexual predators because fellow priests, bishops, archbishops, and parents did nothing except move the chairs around.

Larry Nassar continued to abuse hundreds of gymnasts because the victims weren’t believed and coaches and administrators downplayed the complaints and did nothing.

Jerry Sandusky got away with abusing young boys while coaching at Penn State because Joe Paternoster and others ignored complaints and did nothing.

Aldrich continues his predatory acts after leaving Chicago because Blackhawk employees (and others before Aldrich came to Chicago) did nothing.

All of the enablers are largely (not entirely) escaping legal penalties.
- StLBravesFan

Those are all cases where actual physical abuse occurred, and also occurred on church/university/club property. Occurred with minors, not adults.

This was a case of indecent exposure/harassment between adults and not on team property or during team sanctioned events

And from a moral / ethical standpoint - like doing the right thing and helping to stop the predator from acting on future victims?

They’ll very possibly win the lawsuits.

Not the same thing.
- StLBravesFan

That's definitely not an employers job.

Those are all cases where actual physical abuse occurred, and also occurred on church/university/club property. Occurred with minors, not adults.

This was a case of indecent exposure/harassment between adults and not on team property or during team sanctioned events
- TheTrob

The other cases were long term, with repeated violations being ignored by people in charge. For years.

In this case the guy was gone within a couple weeks of what appears to be the first incident. Morally equating this case with those is garbage.

Yup:

If the Blackhawks keep this PP1 formation, Tyler Johnson is going to score a ton of goals this year. It’s all predicated around feeding him in front of the net, or having him tip shots coming in from the perimeter.
- Chunk

How many goals can he score in 35 games?

Thanks, I hadn't heard that about his leg. At what point in the season did it occur?
- mohel

No problem Mo hope you are doing well. The article never stated when it happened but DEHAAN was busting chops about it. I guess he reads here on the buzz

Because he was mean.
- mohel

I’m inclined to blame other people.

That's definitely not an employers job.
- rpeters01

This is a case of sexual Harassment and/or indecent exposure, not sexual abuse. The accused was removed, the victim continued to be employed for several more years and the employer was under no responsibility to file anything with the police.

He played for them for a few more years. Also, according to Doe #1, the team therapist, assured him that he would never see Brad Aldrich again and the Hawks had given Aldrich the option to quit or be investigated, at which point he was notified that Aldrich chose to quit. Not sure what how you argue "best interest". The threat was removed, his career continued.
- TheTrob

Reporting it to the police.

This is a case of sexual Harassment and/or indecent exposure, not sexual abuse. The accused was removed, the victim continued to be employed for several more years and the employer was under no responsibility to file anything with the police.
- TheTrob

If the Blackhawks do not settle out of court, they will likely be ok in court. The facts we know pretty much all support their case.

Reporting it to the police.
- BetweenTheDots

And the police would say have him talk to his lawyer. What is being alleged is civil, not criminal.

And the police would say have him talk to his lawyer. What is being alleged is civil, not criminal.
- LAHawk

Bingo. Look, lets assume that the allegations are true. Do the Hawks want that to stay in house as opposed to going public, of course they do. As you say, its a civil case, not criminal. They are not the wronged party, so they can't bring suit on behalf of Doe#1, he would have to file himself.

Lets ask you this, how many sexual harassment cases that occurred at United, Citibank, Apple, IBM, or any other corporation are you aware of? Heck, lets talk about high profile cases, Weinstein, was Miramax sued? How about Epstein and Bear Stearns?, and those were cases of actual rape or abuse, not just harassment.

The Hawks were named because thats where any possible money is. Aldrich is worth nothing.

I know, but this just screams gimmick. Like John Scott or Brookbank playing wing. They have 6,389 players in camp. Why is he even involved here? He's on an AHL contract FFS.
- Chunk

Because he is David Kamph's cousin?

Just curious, but lets assume that you do not have the benefit of hindsight. From a moral/ethical standpoint, what should the Hawks have done. By all accounts, Aldrich's employment was terminated. After that point, did you expect them to follow his whereabouts for the rest of his career to see what he was up to?

In recently filed amendments, The former Blackhawks player allegedly assaulted by former video coach Bradley Aldrich suffered anxiety, depression, severe sleep and anger problems, sexual dysfunction and marital problems resulting in divorce as a result of the assault, new court documents claim.

Doe 1’s hockey career entered a “downward spiral” ending in an “emotional breakdown” while playing in Austria after the assault, Medlin said. Her evaluation revealed the aforementioned “emotional distress” symptoms.

The playing is Austria is a new revelation, based on that, we can maybe guess that Doe#1 is LaLonde (right age, played in Austria), all the other "Black Aces" are too old.

The Black Aces in 2010 were: Jack Skille, Jake Dowell, Hannu Toivonen, Danny Richmond, Derek Nesbitt, Shawn Lalonde, Mark Cullen, Jassen Cullimore.

If it was, he played a few more years with the Hawks (Rockford), and the last 8 overseas, but now he finally realizes it and the last 11 years of his life can be traced back to the trauma from that one incident.
- TheTrob

Except according to capfriendly Lalonde, after his North American career, played in the SHL(Sweden) DEL (Germany), and KHL (Russia). Don't think any of those leagues have a franchise in Austria.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shawn-lalonde

Just looked at St. Louis's projected lineup for tonight's game, no Saad or Frolik (PTO)

Forwards
Ivan Barbashev - Brayden Schenn - Pavel Buchnevich
Jake Neighbours - Robert Thomas - Vladimir Tarasenko
Kyle Clifford - Logan Brown - Zack Bolduc
Alexei Toropchenko - Tanner Kaspick - Nathan Todd

Defense
Marco Scandella - Scott Perunovich
Jake Walman - Justin Faulk
Griffin Luce - Robert Bortuzzo

Goalies
Jordan Binnington
Colten Ellis

Except according to capfriendly Lalonde, after his North American career, played in the SHL(Sweden) DEL (Germany), and KHL (Russia). Don't think any of those leagues have a franchise in Austria.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shawn-lalonde
- boilermaker100

The name doesn’t matter. Early on I tried, probably like most people, to figure out who it might be, but now I’m actually purposefully trying not to, because it really doesn’t make one bit of difference who it is.