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Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
I like the Dach Dcat PK pairing (minus faceoffs). Much prefer aggressive PKers too versus the passive box.

Is Johnson a PK guy still? It would be nice if this season Toews isn't first unit PK.

- bhawks2241


Dobber Hockey is the absolute bible for fantasy but for me as valuable for real life hockey too. Fool around at the site and you'll find anything you need.

Here's Johnson's stats with short handed percentage: https://frozenpool.dobber...com/players/tyler-johnson
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
C. Dach gets entry level.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
Dobber Hockey is the absolute bible for fantasy but for me as valuable for real life hockey too. Fool around at the site and you'll find anything you need.

Here's Johnson's stats with short handed percentage: https://frozenpool.dobber...com/players/tyler-johnson

- Mr Ricochet


Who play's PK is also going to be dependent on who JC wants on the ice with Kane the shift after the PK. If you have Johnson, ADB, Toews (who will definitely be taking defensive zone PK draws) on the PK, who will be "fresh" enough to stick on with Kane after the penalty?

Also currently you have Johnson, ADB, Toews on PP1, that is a lot of ice time for 2 33 y.o's if you put them on the PK also.

I think Hagel along with Khaira will get a lot of PK time.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:35 PM ET


I would love to see Mitchell replace Murphy.

- jhawk59


In the starting lineup??? If Jones can play without one of Murphy or McCabe covering for any deficiencies allowing for a pairing of Murphy and McCabe the Hawks will have their best shutdown pair since Hammer and Oduya.

IMO if that pairing is allowed to happen and they stay healthy it will be as important to the Hawk's making the playoff chances as anything else.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
Who play's PK is also going to be dependent on who JC wants on the ice with Kane the shift after the PK. If you have Johnson, ADB, Toews (who will definitely be taking defensive zone PK draws) on the PK, who will be "fresh" enough to stick on with Kane after the penalty?

Also currently you have Johnson, ADB, Toews on PP1, that is a lot of ice time for 2 33 y.o's if you put them on the PK also.

I think Hagel along with Khaira will get a lot of PK time.

- LAHawk


The whole post makes great points with total TOI being most important for me and even more so with Toews as we don't really know about his health/affliction/stamina.

Johnson being solid at the dot over an 82 game season in theory has to shave some minutes off of Toews' TOI, especially those leg burning Dzone draws. Another element where Johnson being a Hawk is very helpful.

Hopefully like Kopitar having that defensive/FO freak Denault free him up from those Dzone draws/matchups it will reduce those hard minutes and Dzone starts. Colliton needs to find a way to reduce Toews' hard minutes without killing the squad's ability in their own zone.

Kopitar by the way on paper looks primed for a big big yr because of Denault.


LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
The whole post makes great points with total TOI being most important for me and even more so with Toews as we don't really know about his health/affliction/stamina.

Johnson being solid at the dot over an 82 game season in theory has to shave some minutes off of Toews' TOI, especially those leg burning Dzone draws. Another element where Johnson being a Hawk is very helpful.

Hopefully like Kopitar having that defensive/FO freak Denault free him up from those Dzone draws/matchups it will reduce those hard minutes and Dzone starts. Colliton needs to find a way to reduce Toews' hard minutes without killing the squad's ability in their own zone.

Kopitar by the way on paper looks primed for a big big yr because of Denault.

- Mr Ricochet


Also Arvidsson will be one of his wingers.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 1 @ 1:31 PM ET
I would like to see McLaughlin and Slavin. Barret and Altybarmaken too. Each could get a cup of coffee or longer this season. Skating is what I want to see, although with McLaughlin he is good..

B Morrison, who had a couple goals in the first games last season then went down with season ending injury, might be a surprise sort of forgotten about. He is in a numbers game and most likely won't get a training camp game.

It was a good idea to give Phillios a game. Let him experience and learn as this is good for his development. Ultimately he has to beat out Stillman for a job. Not sure either makes it long term in Chicago if their passing is poor.

I would love to see Mitchell replace Murphy. I think either Regula or Galvas eventually claim a job.

Steady development by Regula would be nice.....he has a great shot and can score goals. I am going to guess that Regula and Galvas both are here for sure next season. Beaudin might be dealt.

Long term both Kaiser and Vlasic have an opportunity to challenge others as we shape our most ideal blueline corps

I.am.just uncertain C Jones can be more than a third pair

Note to Theo: I haven't seen Soderlund Edmonton box scoresheet

- jhawk59

Lot of minor league defense men, big difference between minor leagues and NHL. Mitchell and Murphy are two completely different kinds of players. Like to see Murphy get a little meaner.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 1 @ 1:34 PM ET
Carpenter is not a good penalty killer, and yet sadly it’s probably the thing he does best. Waiver fodder IMO.
- Ogilthorpe2
People keep saying keep Carpenter his cap hit is low. That's because he sucks! Vets making a million bucks suck!
FeatheredFinn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Tampere
Joined: 11.30.2014

Oct 1 @ 1:38 PM ET
People keep saying keep Carpenter his cap hit is low. That's because he sucks! Vets making a million bucks suck!
- rpeters01


I concur. He is so ordinary at everything that I would be disappointed if he takes a spot from an upandcomer.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Well I guess Palat is not the smallest forward but I don't see why a Dcat Johnson Kane line can't thrive. Dcat has become a responsible 2 way forward. He will probably see some PK time this year again.
- bhawks2241

Only thing is, Smurfs going into the corners but I'll take a tough Smurf over a floater any day.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
People keep saying keep Carpenter his cap hit is low. That's because he sucks! Vets making a million bucks suck!
- rpeters01


Welcome to hard cap reality
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 1 @ 1:42 PM ET
Carpenter is not a good penalty killer, and yet sadly it’s probably the thing he does best. Waiver fodder IMO.
- Ogilthorpe2

I can't believe he will make the team after how they basically ran Smith out of the league last year.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 1 @ 1:43 PM ET
Welcome to hard cap reality
- LAHawk

Roszival was hard cap reality, Carpenter is simply no good.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 1:44 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/rick-w...ould-give-lawye-1.1700663

Looks like there was no formal letter of reference, the job recommendation was in the form of day with the cup.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 1:46 PM ET
I can't believe he will make the team after how they basically ran Smith out of the league last year.
- rpeters01


Smith was $3.5 mil., Carpenter's cap hit is buried if he does not make the team, and clears waivers.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/rick-westhead-aldrich-s-day-with-cup-the-most-positive-job-reference-blackhawks-could-give-lawye-1.1700663

Looks like there was no formal letter of reference, the job recommendation was in the form of day with the cup.

- LAHawk

To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.

- Ogilthorpe2

And from a moral / ethical standpoint - like doing the right thing and helping to stop the predator from acting on future victims?

They’ll very possibly win the lawsuits.

Not the same thing.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Oct 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.

- Ogilthorpe2

Agree. A day with the cup is no more a reference than a Stanley Cup ring. (which I assume Aldrich received).
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Oct 1 @ 2:07 PM ET
And from a moral / ethical standpoint - like doing the right thing and helping to stop the predator from acting on future victims?

They’ll very possibly win the lawsuits.

Not the same thing.

- StLBravesFan

Everyone acts like the Hawks going to the police would have certainly led to charges and an arrest. From the facts presented in the media it might have been difficult to prove anything that was substantial enough to make an arrest.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.

- Ogilthorpe2


Also, the article points out that the statute of limitations is two years, contrary to what some have posted here. I believe 11 years is more than two.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.

- Ogilthorpe2



Well it appears the plaintiffs lawyer has a reputation as a settlement factory, and the Hawks are not biting.

https://www.newyorker.com...t-r-kellys-accusers-quiet
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 1 @ 2:11 PM ET
Everyone acts like the Hawks going to the police would have certainly led to charges and an arrest. From the facts presented in the media it might have been difficult to prove anything that was substantial enough to make an arrest.
- Ztra


If the plaintiffs were interested in stopping this turd, they could've gone to the police themselves at any point in the past 11 years. The fact that they didn't says something. Morals my arse.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Oct 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
To argue a day with the cup is the equivalent of a recommendation is a stretch of the highest magnitude.

Say what you will about the moral/ethical implications of this scandal, but from a legal standpoint, these lawsuits seem to be grasping at straws.

- Ogilthorpe2

Methinks we are learning exactly why this is being done in civil court rather than criminal court.
(But my blood is still boiling over the sex assault occurring under the protection of the US Olympic Committee and the criminal US FBI/DOJ.) May God bless those girls that they might recover from the horrible abuse they endured.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Oct 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
We all know why deHAAN was just well meh last season it was disclosed that he was playing with a fractured tibia. He blocked a shot against Tampa. Strong MFer.... Hopefully he stays healthy enough to contribute to the team all be it on the ice or in a return on a trade.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
We all know why deHAAN was just well meh last season it was disclosed that he was playing with a fractured tibia. He blocked a shot against Tampa. Strong MFer.... Hopefully he stays healthy enough to contribute to the team all be it on the ice or in a return on a trade.
- BGKarras


Thanks, I hadn't heard that about his leg. At what point in the season did it occur?
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