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SHOPLIFTER
Location: How's the wife and kids?, PA
Joined: 02.25.2020

Sep 27 @ 4:17 PM ET
r8edr
Joined: 07.06.2012

Sep 27 @ 4:36 PM ET
Brady has ostensibly been a 50pt player each year he's been in the league on a dumpster fire team. He also has 700+ more hits in his career than Jordan.

Parayko obviously isn't part of any deal but the Kyrou vs. Brady comparison is absurd.

- mjones242


Need to watch with comments about being on a dumpster fire team. Even bad teams have players that produce simply because the team has to put someone on the top PP and give them minutes on the ice. Not to mention the other team usually has the backup and might try to give their top D and top lines a couple of minutes less.

Not saying that is the case with Brady, but Stajan and Ponikarovsky had 55 and 61 points for the leafs. Komarov scored 19 goals in 67 games. I remember when everyone thought Bouwmeester and Jokenin were going to explode once getting out of Florida, neither came close to their offensive totals again.



Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Sep 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
Tkachuk for Parayko. Ha!! Not a chance. Maybe if Ottawa threw in Stutzle, Richardson and their first round pick they might get that deal done.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Sep 27 @ 5:17 PM ET
Lol thats a joke of an offer. Kyrou has put up the exact numbers that Brady has and did it with less toi.

So why would we trade you kyrou and parayko
That's nuts.

- BlueTaco


You obviously have no clue how good Tkachuk is and what he brings over Kyrou. Tkachuk hits, fights, takes no crap and a born leader. Kyrou is good but not on the same elite level as Brady. Typical homer and I say that being a big time Blues fan. Adding Parayko would likely get this deal done but with the state of D in STL I do not think they can let him go.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Sep 27 @ 5:20 PM ET
They got the exact same numbers last year and Brady had more time on ice. So to sit here and say there is no comparison when there is a very close comparison with parayko as a throw is is the absurdity here. Also you say he hits more than kyrou well Brady is no where close to the speed of kyrou. No where close. You can teach a lot of things but ypu can't teach lighting quick speed
- BlueTaco


Your judgement of hockey talent leaves a lot to be desired. I am a huge Kyrou fan and this could be a breakout year but Tkachuk is clearly more valuable to either team.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Sep 27 @ 5:26 PM ET
What happened to the 32-part series on how team X can win the Cup. I liked those. You did 3. Only 29 to go. I think it would be hard to do St.Louis right now until this Tkachuk story gets resolved. But maybe try Nashville or Columbus.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Sep 27 @ 5:41 PM ET
I would do the deal In return for Kyrou, Thomas, And MacEachern.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 27 @ 5:44 PM ET
There is a point where Ottawa could be talked into dealing Brady. It is 4 first round draft picks. St. Louis is an older team and will be into a full rebuild over the next few years. 4 quality first round picks is very appealing.

I am not a huge fan of Ottawa giving Brady an 8 year deal. I prefer the 3 year option. I could be persuaded to go the trade route if a team made a sweet enough offer.

I would not trade Brady straight up for Eichel. I would trade Brady straight up for Lafreniere. I would not trade Brady straight up for Byfield.
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 6:17 PM ET
You obviously have no clue how good Tkachuk is and what he brings over Kyrou. Tkachuk hits, fights, takes no crap and a born leader. Kyrou is good but not on the same elite level as Brady. Typical homer and I say that being a big time Blues fan. Adding Parayko would likely get this deal done but with the state of D in STL I do not think they can let him go.
- joegreif17

I know exactly how good he is. Obviously you have no idea how good kyrou is. I follow both tkchucks. I am waiting for both of them to come home but to say he is currently way better than kyrou who had exactly the same numbers with significant less time on ice and less pp time is asinine. Yes brady had the pedigree yes he had the draft pisition... so did yakopov. Potential only gets you so far. Right now ypu have two young kids putting up the same numbers on gets more toi pp time and is physical the other is a speed demon. They are different but kit as far off as you guys think.
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 6:18 PM ET
Your judgement of hockey talent leaves a lot to be desired. I am a huge Kyrou fan and this could be a breakout year but Tkachuk is clearly more valuable to either team.
- joegreif17

Why because you don't know who kyrou is. My judgement is very sound. That's why iam calling bull sheet on people saying kyrou is not on bradys level.
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 6:19 PM ET
I would do the deal In return for Kyrou, Thomas, And MacEachern.
- Shady1962

So now you want our potential 1c and a player who put up the same numbers as Brady.... lol you guys are a freaking riot.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 27 @ 6:31 PM ET
So now you want our potential 1c and a player who put up the same numbers as Brady.... lol you guys are a freaking riot.
- BlueTaco


You are just being painful. Sens would easily take the 4 1st round picks if the Blues would simply draw up the offer sheet. Blues are not going to do that and folks are just pulling your chain.

Blues will begin their rebuild soon enough and I am sure the Sens will be interested in some of their players later on this season or next.
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 6:49 PM ET
You are just being painful. Sens would easily take the 4 1st round picks if the Blues would simply draw up the offer sheet. Blues are not going to do that and folks are just pulling your chain.

Blues will begin their rebuild soon enough and I am sure the Sens will be interested in some of their players later on this season or next.

- spatso


How am I being painful. He isn't worth 4 first round picks. You know why a deal hasn't been signed cause he wants his next contract to end on ufa. So he can leave and go to blues in free agency. That's what's holding up its the term.

So it's in blues best interest to just wait it out when both mathew and Brady come home. Lol
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 27 @ 6:54 PM ET
How am I being painful. He isn't worth 4 first round picks. You know why a deal hasn't been signed cause he wants his next contract to end on ufa. So he can leave and go to blues in free agency. That's what's holding up its the term.

So it's in blues best interest to just wait it out when both mathew and Brady come home. Lol

- BlueTaco


So why has he not signed the short term deal he has been offered by the Sens?

Sens have made it clear they would be happy with a short term deal.

All reports indicate that it is the Tkachuk camp does not want to give up on finding the terms for an 8 year deal.

Most folks in Ottawa would be content with a 3 year bridge deal.
Jetsabre24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Batavia, NY
Joined: 06.21.2017

Sep 27 @ 7:07 PM ET
Anyone else noticed a trend that almost every crazy rumor he comes up with involves a player either going home to where they were born or their dad played there. Brady tkachuk is just the newest in a long line. Or Johnny gaudreau is going home to New Jersey and Taylor Hall is going home to Calgary and so on and so on and so forth. I'm starting to wonder if he even watches hockey anymore for these rumors are insane or based on how good somebody was 3 years ago for some All-Star looking young player
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 7:13 PM ET
So why has he not signed the short term deal he has been offered by the Sens?

Sens have made it clear they would be happy with a short term deal.

All reports indicate that it is the Tkachuk camp does not want to give up on finding the terms for an 8 year deal.

Most folks in Ottawa would be content with a 3 year bridge deal.

- spatso

Because a bridge deal of 3 years leaves 1 year of rfa control. If he could sign short term that let him be a ufa as soon as possible then he would eb signed. The fact that ypu can't see this leads me to believe you are in for a rude awaking. Notice how Matty didn't sign an extension either. Next year they have to qualify him at 10 mil for 1 season and if they don't ufa. The boys will be homes sooner than most think.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Sep 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
I would do the deal In return for Kyrou, Thomas, And MacEachern.
- Shady1962

I wouldn't do that trade. Ottawa's got plenty of these bottom six types already.

St. Louis doesn't have anything I'd trade Brady for.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Sep 27 @ 7:32 PM ET
Anyone else noticed a trend that almost every crazy rumor he comes up with involves a player either going home to where they were born or their dad played there. Brady tkachuk is just the newest in a long line. Or Johnny gaudreau is going home to New Jersey and Taylor Hall is going home to Calgary and so on and so on and so forth. I'm starting to wonder if he even watches hockey anymore for these rumors are insane or based on how good somebody was 3 years ago for some All-Star looking young player
- Jetsabre24


Tavares went home to Toronto. So it happens often.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 27 @ 7:36 PM ET
Because a bridge deal of 3 years leaves 1 year of rfa control. If he could sign short term that let him be a ufa as soon as possible then he would eb signed. The fact that ypu can't see this leads me to believe you are in for a rude awaking. Notice how Matty didn't sign an extension either. Next year they have to qualify him at 10 mil for 1 season and if they don't ufa. The boys will be homes sooner than most think.
- BlueTaco


Has anybody explained to you that no contract for an RFA during the years the player is scheduled to be an RFA can involve any restrictions on trade? Simply put he cannot ask for a contract that has trade limitations. So a "no trade" clause in any form is unacceptable to the NHL. So he loses nothing by signing a 3 or 4 year deal today.

As Dreger is reporting neither side has given up on being able to get an 8 year deal completed. The Sens have indicated that they are happy to do the bridge deal. The Brady camp has not given up on the idea that they can do 8 years.

None of the stuff you are floating corresponds to any reality of the options that are being reported.
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

Sep 27 @ 7:42 PM ET
So now you want our potential 1c and a player who put up the same numbers as Brady.... lol you guys are a freaking riot.
- BlueTaco


And how would the Blue sign BT? Need to move out the same amount of cap to make it happen



BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 7:52 PM ET
Has anybody explained to you that no contract for an RFA during the years the player is scheduled to be an RFA can involve any restrictions on trade? Simply put he cannot ask for a contract that has trade limitations. So a "no trade" clause in any form is unacceptable to the NHL. So he loses nothing by signing a 3 or 4 year deal today.

As Dreger is reporting neither side has given up on being able to get an 8 year deal completed. The Sens have indicated that they are happy to do the bridge deal. The Brady camp has not given up on the idea that they can do 8 years.

None of the stuff you are floating corresponds to any reality of the options that are being reported.

- spatso


I think you missed my point. I never said anything about trade or being traded. I said he wants to become a ufa as soon as possible so he can sign with the team he wants ....hence the blues
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 27 @ 7:58 PM ET
Tkachuk for Parayko. Ha!! Not a chance. Maybe if Ottawa threw in Stutzle, Richardson and their first round pick they might get that deal done.
- Whatisavailable

who tf is richardson
BlueTaco
St Louis Blues
Location: st. peters mo, MO
Joined: 07.23.2021

Sep 27 @ 7:59 PM ET
And how would the Blue sign BT? Need to move out the same amount of cap to make it happen
- GrimmdaGoalie


Correct and that would be tarasenko. He is gone next year after he proves he is a 30 goal scorer again. Blues will not retain and request futures and the following g players will be gone as well
Tarasenko 7.5m
Bortuzzo 1.4 m
Clifford 1.0 m
Cap increases 2m
So that basically gives blues 12m in space.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 27 @ 8:02 PM ET
Anyone else noticed a trend that almost every crazy rumor he comes up with involves a player either going home to where they were born or their dad played there. Brady tkachuk is just the newest in a long line. Or Johnny gaudreau is going home to New Jersey and Taylor Hall is going home to Calgary and so on and so on and so forth. I'm starting to wonder if he even watches hockey anymore for these rumors are insane or based on how good somebody was 3 years ago for some All-Star looking young player
- Jetsabre24

Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 27 @ 8:05 PM ET
What happened to the 32-part series on how team X can win the Cup. I liked those. You did 3. Only 29 to go. I think it would be hard to do St.Louis right now until this Tkachuk story gets resolved. But maybe try Nashville or Columbus.
- HockeyBuzzed


Nashville will win the Cup with Cody Glass having a breakout year and Myers supplanting Josi as the stud D man on the team. Jeff Skinner at the deadline seals it.


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