Dreger says Tkachuk doesn’t wanna be here …how reliable is his sources with Ottawa 🤔
And if true trade him now sent him to Buffalo 😂

Dreger says Tkachuk doesn’t wanna be here …how reliable is his sources with Ottawa 🤔
And if true trade him now sent him to Buffalo 😂
- sens4life1971

That is not what his interview this morning said. It said quite the opposite.

That is not what his interview this morning said. It said quite the opposite.
- HoweHatrick

I just seen it on FB a buddy tagged me in it 🤷‍♂️

Ah yes. Social media is a perfect spot to get credible information. I hope you do not get your COVID information from the same sources.

I would suggest trying the link I posted on the first page.

I just seen it on FB a buddy tagged me in it 🤷‍♂️
- sens4life1971

You’re referencing a fan blog article, that was misquoting a tweet from a fan blog Twitter account, that 100% deliberately misquoted dreger just to get clicks, which was deleted (the tweet) after 3 minutes because of the sheer number of people who called him out on his BS tweet.

You should try reading articles once in awhile, rather than just reading click bait headlines and treating it as gospel truth.

Until the Senators stop the nickle/dime BS with being at the salary cap floor, they're going to have all kinds of trouble getting Tkachuk to sign long-term. In fact, promising Tkachuk more money might actually work against them, because Brady's smart enough to know that could mean they won't be willing to spend enough money for supporting talent. There's no way for them to prove this year that they're serious long-term about winning, so they really need to stop hard-lining the 8yr extension idea, and get a bridge deal done ASAP. Especially, before a predatory team comes waltzing in and gives Brady exactly the term/structure he really wants.

Case-in-point, if there is some kind of role to be played by the Blues here, it could be to sign Tkachuk to an RFA offer sheet for $6.0M x 4yrs with all kinds of signing bonus dollars... where it evaporates all of Tkachuk's remaining RFA years, the compensation is only a 1st/3rd (which the Blues have), and the AAV would be effectively covered off by a Tarasenko trade. Now of course you match that, because a 1st/3rd is just ridiculous compensation for Tkachuk, but it effectively puts you on the clock, and behind the 8-ball in 3-4yrs time. Conversely, at least if you get him signed to a 3yr bridge deal it would leave 1 RFA year on the books, and you could then either sign him long-term or trade him like Reinhart or Jones for a quality return.

Ottawa Center Ice - the last 7 drafts
2015 - 21st Overall - Colin White
2016 - 11th Overall - Logan Brown
2017 - 19th Overall - Josh Norris
2018 - 95th Overall - Jonathan Gruden
2019 - 32nd Overall - Shane Pinto
2020 - 28th Overall - Ridly Grieg
2021 - 39th Overall - Zack Ostapchuk
Is this center ice good enough to contend for a cup from 2024-2029ish?
- AlfieisKing

Well, Gruden and Brown have both been traded... plus, I'm not convinced Greig and Ostapchuk really project as C in the NHL (EliteProspects and the Giants home page already list Ostapchuk as a LW). Norris, Pinto, and White are all solid, but it's an awful lot of #2/3 type players, and nobody who's really commanding the offense. They really are becoming a Nashville v2.0... which might be okay if that was actually a recipe for success.

Any offer of $6m x 4 years, even if it is all bonus is a no brainer for the Sens.

No way Tkachuk signs a front end loaded contract where there is big bonus payments in year one. All bonus money is subject to escrow claw back expected to be upwards of 10%. On a $24m deal, it could add up to a couple of million dollars.

Wow ask a question which I figured was BS to begin with and I get 2 idiots bashing me 😂
Good job nobs 👌

Any offer of $6m x 4 years, even if it is all bonus is a no brainer for the Sens.
- spatso

Actually, that would be a 110% catastrophe for the Senators. If you use Chabot's deal as the comparable, he gets the equivalent of $6.5Mx4yrs in the first half of this deal, but gives up his first 4yrs of UFA status for the equivalent of $9.5Mx4yrs. Tkachuk would not only get essentially the same money over the 4yrs, but also get his wish of UFA status at 26. Ottawa would be effectively set up to lose Tkachuk within the next 3-4yrs at diminished value, because Tkachuk has no obligation to even negotiate a final RFA season... right smack in the middle of their "unprecedented success" timeline.

Put it another way, at what point do you trade Tkachuk wearing the "C" in his mid-20's just as the team starts making the playoffs without it becoming an absolute PR nightmare?

Actually, that would be a 110% catastrophe for the Senators. If you use Chabot's deal as the comparable, he gets the equivalent of $6.5Mx4yrs in the first half of this deal, but gives up his first 4yrs of UFA status for the equivalent of $9.5Mx4yrs. Tkachuk would not only get essentially the same money over the 4yrs, but also get his wish of UFA status at 26. Ottawa would be effectively set up to lose Tkachuk within the next 3-4yrs at diminished value, because Tkachuk has no obligation to even negotiate a final RFA season... right smack in the middle of their "unprecedented success" timeline.

Put it another way, at what point do you trade Tkachuk wearing the "C" in his mid-20's just as the team starts making the playoffs without it becoming an absolute PR nightmare?
- khawk

I don't see it that clearly. A negotiable asset has value. It does not matter if the deal is a 3 or 4 year deal, Tkachuk cannot ask for no trade restrictions or conditions of any type. And nothing stops the Sens from dealing him after he signs a deal. My belief is he is a far more negotiable asset on a 3 year deal at $6m than he is on an 8 year deal at $8m.

I believe the delay in signing a deal is because they Sens are not afraid of either option and as a result they stripped out any leverage that the Brady camp may have been trying to impose on the negotiations.

I wonder if Dorion has an offer in his back pocket that allows him to stay so kool and positive during the process.

Grieg suspended

Grieg suspended
- Trilla

2 games

2 games
- Mithos

1 exhibition and 1 regular season.

More impact on reputation than actual playing opportunities.

1 exhibition and 1 regular season.

More impact on reputation than actual playing opportunities.
- spatso

NHL saying they gonna crack down hard on Cross-Checking this season.

Actually, that would be a 110% catastrophe for the Senators. If you use Chabot's deal as the comparable, he gets the equivalent of $6.5Mx4yrs in the first half of this deal, but gives up his first 4yrs of UFA status for the equivalent of $9.5Mx4yrs. Tkachuk would not only get essentially the same money over the 4yrs, but also get his wish of UFA status at 26. Ottawa would be effectively set up to lose Tkachuk within the next 3-4yrs at diminished value, because Tkachuk has no obligation to even negotiate a final RFA season... right smack in the middle of their "unprecedented success" timeline.

Put it another way, at what point do you trade Tkachuk wearing the "C" in his mid-20's just as the team starts making the playoffs without it becoming an absolute PR nightmare?
- khawk

If Brady has been holding out for a contract that allows him to walk away for nothing a few years from now then you sign him and trade him this year. You absolutely do not give him more than a bridge that is very tradeable.

I was very impressed with Ennis last night. He was all over the ice and had an impact every time he was out there. I dare say that, barring a terrible performance in the coming 6 pre-season games, he did a lot to make the case for a contract. I would have no issue with that based on what I saw last night.
- jaz258

I liked his game too but if Brady is signed soon, then where does Ennis fit in the top 12?

For all the Sokolov hype.......I thought he was pretty invisible.

Was Mette in the game last night? I thought while their defense played ok defensively against the Jets "B crew" they didn't do much offensively.
- Octavarium

He definitely needs more time in the AHL, possibly a large chunk of the season.

I had the same thought. But where does he fit?

A player (or two) from last year may need to be moved.

Hard to figure out how Tierney gets a roster spot if Pinto makes the team. Colin White gets harder to fit into the lineup every year.

St. Louis is moving into rebuild and they will begin to sell off assets once the season starts unfolding. If the Sens have serious playoff aspirations, the guy that I watch for once the season starts is Ryan O'Reilly.
- spatso

There is no doubt something has to give with Tierney, again hearing Dorion and DJ go on and on about him at their presser after he was a healthy scratch to end the year, made me think they are really trying to sell the narrative out there that he is worth something good in return from another team. What changed in his game from Game 56 til first day of camp, nothing....so why the 180 on how you think of the player?

contend, maybe. Win--nope.
Competitive but not dominant.
They'd need things to fall their way in the playoffs with match ups and injuries.

Ya that rumor on the front page is obviously click bait. But I don't think he came up with it on his own. I bet there have been rumors floated about a deal between them. I mean if he's only gonna sign a short term deal, if he's becoming a head ache and if you can ship him to the western conference.......
- Octavarium

Ottawa is 5th best in their division as it stands now, but if injuries, trades, etc on other teams or here in Ottawa, that can change where they would finish.

I liked his game too but if Brady is signed soon, then where does Ennis fit in the top 12?
- Kevin Francis

Belleville

No way Tkachuk signs a front end loaded contract where there is big bonus payments in year one. All bonus money is subject to escrow claw back expected to be upwards of 10%. On a $24m deal, it could add up to a couple of million dollars.
- spatso

Signing bonuses are not subject to escrow. Same for performance bonuses. Signing bonuses are also safe from buyouts. It is guaranteed money.

Also, when a player receives a signing bonus it will be subject to tax in the country where the player is resident for tax purposes. ... A professional athlete who receives a signing bonus generally pays tax in the country where the player is a resident for tax purposes at the time they receive the bonus. It would provide an extra 10-15% to Brady in after tax dollars.

Signing bonuses are not subject to escrow. Same for performance bonuses. Signing bonuses are also safe from buyouts. It is guaranteed money.

Also, when a player receives a signing bonus it will be subject to tax in the country where the player is resident for tax purposes. ... A professional athlete who receives a signing bonus generally pays tax in the country where the player is a resident for tax purposes at the time they receive the bonus. It would provide an extra 10-15% to Brady in after tax dollars.
- SensFan25

But, I think the signing bonus is limited to a maximum of 10% of the AAV.

Belleville
- SensFan25

He is on a PTO, if he continues to show well, another team can just come in and sign him. He wont sign here if he thinks he is going to down to Belleville.