Not a single player Fletcher has drafted has made any real impact yet. For one it's two soon. Hextall drafted Hart, the teams #1 goalie. Provorov, the teams top defenseman. Farabee who has a real chance to be a strong all around player and a 30 goal scorer. Konecny who already has been a 24 goal, 60 point player with the potential for more. Frost who has a chance to be a top 6 center. Sanheim, who is a top 4 defenseman. Not to mention players like Allison and Lindblom.

I don't see how the players that Fletcher drafted have more potential.
- MJL

Huh?

There's many things that could kill Joe at the fish market every day
- 2Real

Is that why he’s signed to millions of dollars? These guys aren’t just making the money they do because of their talent. Their signed because of the long term risk on their body.

No one called Eichel a baby because of his injury or the way it is being handled. Not sure why people are trying to act like that was said.

No one called Eichel a baby because of his injury or the way it is being handled. Not sure why people are trying to act like that was said.
- Ftown19125

You called him and I quote “a (frank)in baby” on the first page of this thread. The all knowing Claudefather accused him of crying. Like, are you serious here???

Good, they gave him what an $80M contract, stop your crying buddy. These athletes today are so entitled. I understand that the organizations have a lot of power but this one doesn’t shine a very good light on the kid.
- ClaudeFather

Like what is this?

agree completely. he's being a (frank)ing baby.
- Ftown19125

Only hours later, this was never said.

Like what is this?

Only hours later, this was never said.
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t see anything about his injury in either of those quotes. Following a thread is tough.

I don’t see anything about his injury in either of those quotes. Following a thread is tough.
- Ftown19125

We don’t know his reasoning. We do know the most recent of issues

We don’t know his reasoning. We do know the most recent of issues
- SuperSchennBros

He signed an 8 year $80M deal and wanted out of Buffalo after 2. He got injured during year 3 and it was being reported as not being a season ending injury at first. It’s possible they didn’t know what the extent of the injury was exactly at the time, I’ll give you that.

Now we’re 6-7 months later and nothing has been done to correct the problem with his neck. You think that’s because they couldn’t come to an agreement on the type of surgery? Cmon.

He signed an 8 year $80M deal and wanted out of Buffalo after 2. He got injured during year 3 and it was being reported as not being a season ending injury at first. It’s possible they didn’t know what the extent of the injury was exactly at the time, I’ll give you that.

Now we’re 6-7 months later and nothing has been done to correct the problem with his neck. You think that’s because they couldn’t come to an agreement on the type of surgery? Cmon.
- Ftown19125

You claimed you didn’t call him a baby. Anything else you’ve posted is irrelevant.

You claimed you didn’t call him a baby. Anything else you’ve posted is irrelevant.
- SuperSchennBros

No I didnt. I said no one called him a baby because of his injury or the way it’s being handled. You can’t even follow the conversations you’re involved in. It’s kind of amazing.

No I didnt. I said no one called him a baby because of his injury or the way it’s being handled. You can’t even follow the conversations you’re involved in. It’s kind of amazing.
- Ftown19125

You didn’t remotely clarify why you called him a baby. You just claimed you nobody called him a baby when you did.

What you don’t seem to understand is nobody knows what’s going on between Eichel vs the Sabers. I don’t think it’s all separate situations. I think it’s piled into one. So you choosing why he’s a baby or isn’t a baby is silly. He just wants out of Buffalo.

Is that why he’s signed to millions of dollars? These guys aren’t just making the money they do because of their talent. Their signed because of the long term risk on their body.
- SuperSchennBros

Uh, no. Hockey players make what they make because they are the best of the best at a job that the public pays billions of dollars each year to watch them do. Period.

If danger and risk of injury really paid that well then firefighters (and a long list of other blue collar workers) would be millionaires, too.

No one called Eichel a baby because of his injury or the way it is being handled. Not sure why people are trying to act like that was said.
- Ftown19125

Eichel just wants out of Buffalo. Simple as that. Just like #88 wanted out of Philly. Sometimes people just want to move on (for good reason) but they choose the most embarrassing, dramatic way of going about it.

Neither Eichel nor the team are really entitled to much sympathy or leeway considering how they happily dragged their divorce into the streets.

Huh?
- Robert's Plant

Ok I gotta ask. Who are you thinking of that has made an impact from Fletchers drafts?

Ok I gotta ask. Who are you thinking of that has made an impact from Fletchers drafts?
- MBFlyerfan

I think the Huh? part was from this part of the comment:
I don't see how the players that Fletcher drafted have more potential.
- MJL

"Potential", I think Foerester and York have very high potential. Foerester with how he performed last year could have the highest potential out of anyone

I think the Huh? part was from this part of the comment:
I don't see how the players that Fletcher drafted have more potential.
- MJL

"Potential", I think Foerester and York have very high potential. Foerester with how he performed last year could have the highest potential out of anyone
- bradster

Maybe, maybe not. A lot depends on if his skating can get to NHL level. But other than him, I agree with MJL, it is WAY too early to determine if the picks so far have more potential.


And he also bolded the first sentence too....

Not a single player Fletcher has drafted has made any real impact yet. For one it's two soon.

Cant see how anyone can disagree with this.

Maybe, maybe not. A lot depends on if his skating can get to NHL level. But other than him, I agree with MJL, it is WAY too early to determine if the picks so far have more potential.


And he also bolded the first sentence too....



Cant see how anyone can disagree with this.
- MBFlyerfan

Potential on players is judged before they are drafted. You might not think Tyson has potential, i think he has huge potential, we'll see how it plays out.

What has Fletcher done specifically to prove that he is the right person to move the team forward? What has he won as a GM here?
- MJL

I think the moves he made this off season, both the quality and quantity, should be highly praised, especially in the flat-cap world of the NHL these days. Fletcher has seriously shaken up the chemistry of this team, filled obvious gaps, brought accountability back to the locker room, and secured key players and RFAs. Sure, he hasn't won anything with the Flyers yet, so all I have to go by is the moves he's made and the team on paper, but I think any open minded person would be very impressed with Fletcher's off season and I believe this off season will be looked back on very fondly for many years to come.

Potential on players is judged before they are drafted. You might not think Tyson has potential, i think he has huge potential, we'll see how it plays out.
- bradster

Never said he didn't have potential. And if you go by what it was before he was drafted, then I see Foerster as a swing for the fences type player. Either he is going to be a top six sniper because of his booming and accurate shot, or he wont be anything at all because he cant keep up.

I hope it is the former.

I'm torn between two sides here. Have to give Fletcher credit for being aggressive. He was mandated to make moves. If the moves don't work out, does team management share in the blame? If this doesn't work out then really for me it starts with the firing of Hextall and the announcement by upper level management that they were going to be a cap team that was going to aggressively try to win. There will be plenty of blame to go around. It also depends on where the bar for success is. I believe this team is going to be a good team and a more exciting team to watch play. Is making the playoffs and selling some tickets enough? For me it's not but it might be for management.
- MJL

My bar is the final 4 this coming season.

I think the moves he made this off season, both the quality and quantity, should be highly praised, especially in the flat-cap world of the NHL these days. Fletcher has seriously shaken up the chemistry of this team, filled obvious gaps, brought accountability back to the locker room, and secured key players and RFAs. Sure, he hasn't won anything with the Flyers yet, so all I have to go by is the moves he's made and the team on paper, but I think any open minded person would be very impressed with Fletcher's off season and I believe this off season will be looked back on very fondly for many years to come.
- jd250

Him realizing that this team needed a culture change is huge also

My bar is the final 4 this coming season.
- jd250

That's quite the jump, from no where close to the playoffs to final 4, i hope you are right.

Not a single player Fletcher has drafted has made any real impact yet. For one it's two soon. Hextall drafted Hart, the teams #1 goalie. Provorov, the teams top defenseman. Farabee who has a real chance to be a strong all around player and a 30 goal scorer. Konecny who already has been a 24 goal, 60 point player with the potential for more. Frost who has a chance to be a top 6 center. Sanheim, who is a top 4 defenseman. Not to mention players like Allison and Lindblom.

I don't see how the players that Fletcher drafted have more potential.
- MJL

I can't argue they have more potential, but I will say they have different potential. I think Hextall valued 200 foot players which is a very good thing, but he was not able to draft and develop a pure scorer nor was he able to really address the speed in the system. I believe CF and his team have focused more on this area and thus we have players like Foerster and Tuomaala, and don't forget CF drafted York who looks good. I'm surprised you left out Frost as a Hexy pick, he's going to get the chance to win the 2nd line C role, I hope he succeeds.

Him realizing that this team needed a culture change is huge also
- bradster

And AV in one of his first interviews of camp mentioned the improvements in accountability in the locker room, that was a pretty revealing statement IMO.

That's quite the jump, from no where close to the playoffs to final 4, i hope you are right.
- bradster

Yes, but I know how the team played in 2019 and I believe they are a much better team now than in 2019, so I feel this team's ceiling is to win their division and to make the final 4. Once in the final 4, anything can happen.