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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 10:51 AM ET
@RealKyper
· 15m
Eichel has made it clear he’s willing to go anywhere to facilitate a trade. One of 1/2 doz teams involved tell me a trade is doable as long as the @BuffaloSabres are willing to add “conditional” clauses around how he performs after surgery. ie .. games played, scoring etc.

- GilPerreault11


Made this case 24 hours ago. That looming NMC means nothing.

If what Kyper is saying is true, it *sounds* like his method of surgery is acceptable, which is a big hurdle.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
Get it done, KA.

I see no reason why he shouldn't/couldn't include conditions.

- Powerslave


All well and good until the offer is your 4th best prospect and a late first. What the offer is and what the conditions are matter a (frank)in lot.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 24 @ 10:57 AM ET
@RealKyper
· 15m
Eichel has made it clear he’s willing to go anywhere to facilitate a trade. One of 1/2 doz teams involved tell me a trade is doable as long as the @BuffaloSabres are willing to add “conditional” clauses around how he performs after surgery. ie .. games played, scoring etc.

- GilPerreault11



Eichels new approach to solving this problem:




An angry billionaire holds his Olympic dreams in the palm of his hands, 9 is in for a long season.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 24 @ 10:58 AM ET
Girgensons yesterday: I knew right away that practices were different
- TheSabresTaco[when Donnie took over].. Guys competing. We want to be one of the hardest working teams.

(frank)ing guy wasn't even on the ice and he noticed a 180 in practice habits. (frank) you Ralph, don't ruin another hockey team in any league.



Kyle okposo on zemgus girgensons

" There's no analytics for that guy. There's zero. Like, that guy brings so much to our team and so much energy and he does everything the right way. That guy's one of the best teammates I've ever played with"


Well imagine that...

Great28 haters and chubby child mockers...
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 24 @ 10:59 AM ET
@RealKyper
· 15m
Eichel has made it clear he’s willing to go anywhere to facilitate a trade. One of 1/2 doz teams involved tell me a trade is doable as long as the @BuffaloSabres are willing to add “conditional” clauses around how he performs after surgery. ie .. games played, scoring etc.

- GilPerreault11


exactly why I wasnt afraid of his NTC
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:00 AM ET
All well and good until the offer is your 4th best prospect and a late first. What the offer is and what the conditions are matter a (frank)in lot.
- TheSabresTaco


I might think about one condition being retaining salary as Boss stated if he doesn't hit certain marks then give top prospects and nothing higher than a 2nd
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 24 @ 11:01 AM ET
exactly why I wasnt afraid of his NTC
- Sabretooth9


Completely agree. It's a 5 year remaining contract.

Not 1 year because of a Ntc.

Eichel isnt going to sit a full year or 5 years
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:02 AM ET
All well and good until the offer is your 4th best prospect and a late first. What the offer is and what the conditions are matter a (frank)in lot.
- TheSabresTaco



If the Flames trade us Zary, they can't say, "Jack only played in 42 games, give him back!".

Conditions on picks is fine.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 24 @ 11:06 AM ET
Kyle okposo on zemgus girgensons

" There's no analytics for that guy. There's zero. Like, that guy brings so much to our team and so much energy and he does everything the right way. That guy's one of the best teammates I've ever played with"


Well imagine that...

Great28 haters and chubby child mockers...

- Boss34


I don’t think anyone ever said he wasn’t one of those guys. His talent level on the other hand….. there’s a lot of great leaders, and if he wasn’t in an industry where is actual performance gets judged but can just be an excellent motivator for others, cool beans. He’s been a fourth line production player, third in a pinch. I don’t hate him, I’m just indifferent. Which might be more telling.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:07 AM ET
Kyle okposo on zemgus girgensons

" There's no analytics for that guy. There's zero. Like, that guy brings so much to our team and so much energy and he does everything the right way. That guy's one of the best teammates I've ever played with"


Well imagine that...

Great28 haters and chubby child mockers...

- Boss34


I like Girgensons the player, I don’t like the contract.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 24 @ 11:07 AM ET
I might think about one condition being retaining salary as Boss stated if he doesn't hit certain marks then give top prospects and nothing higher than a 2nd
- GilPerreault11



You're not allowed to add conditions on retaining salary, but I might be reading what you wrote wrong
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Sep 24 @ 11:09 AM ET
Get it done, KA.

I see no reason why he shouldn't/couldn't include conditions.

- Powerslave

Conditions to alleviate the new team’s pain if he doesn’t regain his form seem fair, but, then KA should attach a condition for Buffalo to receive additional compensation if/when Jeichel comes back better than ever
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:11 AM ET
Conditions to alleviate the new team’s pain if he doesn’t regain his form seem fair, but, then KA should attach a condition for Buffalo to receive additional compensation if/when Jeichel comes back better than ever
- Ratsreign



Could get complicated. But, hey, GMing is easy.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:13 AM ET
So the 2 sides are at an impasse. Why can't the team or league step in and demand medical arbitration, rather than letting the whole poopshow continue indefinitely? seriously, the NHL, the Sabres, and Jack all need a resolution and medical arb is the way to get it so the league should be insisting on it.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 24 @ 11:14 AM ET
Conditions to alleviate the new team’s pain if he doesn’t regain his form seem fair, but, then KA should attach a condition for Buffalo to receive additional compensation if/when Jeichel comes back better than ever
- Ratsreign


Seems like the conditions would be only on picks, and as Powerslave said, that's going to be complicated.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:17 AM ET
Kyle okposo on zemgus girgensons

" There's no analytics for that guy. There's zero. Like, that guy brings so much to our team and so much energy and he does everything the right way. That guy's one of the best teammates I've ever played with"


Well imagine that...

Great28 haters and chubby child mockers...

- Boss34


I myself don't poop on ZG a ton because of what Kyle said. He is what he is, everyone knows what he is on the ice, he's overpaid but I think he still brings a positive element to the team. I'm glad he's here at a time where we are desperate for leaders.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:19 AM ET
So the 2 sides are at an impasse. Why can't the team or league step in and demand medical arbitration, rather than letting the whole poopshow continue indefinitely? seriously, the NHL, the Sabres, and Jack all need a resolution and medical arb is the way to get it so the league should be insisting on it.
- LandlordTom


I'm not sure if they have that power.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 24 @ 11:20 AM ET
Jack would rather play for the yotes then the sabres

let that sink in
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
I don’t think anyone ever said he wasn’t one of those guys. His talent level on the other hand….. there’s a lot of great leaders, and if he wasn’t in an industry where is actual performance gets judged but can just be an excellent motivator for others, cool beans. He’s been a fourth line production player, third in a pinch. I don’t hate him, I’m just indifferent. Which might be more telling.
- SDSabre



There's been plenty of great28 bashing around here.

Never heard anything close to this with our "leader" that's now in Florida ☝️
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
You're not allowed to add conditions on retaining salary, but I might be reading what you wrote wrong
- Stripes77


No, you had it right. Then they are going to have to put other assets in as conditions. Trading to a team with at least some talent to help play with him will help him get the points he needs to hit the qualifications and hope his health holds up.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:22 AM ET
Jack would rather play for the yotes then the sabres

let that sink in

- homiedclown


There's that. Also, he knows he doesn't have a choice and would rather go somewhere else than sit for a year or more.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 24 @ 11:22 AM ET
I myself don't poop on ZG a ton because of what Kyle said. He is what he is, everyone knows what he is on the ice, he's overpaid but I think he still brings a positive element to the team. I'm glad he's here at a time where we are desperate for leaders.
- TheSabresTaco


Nice post 🌮
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
There's been plenty of great28 bashing around here.

Never heard anything close to this with our "leader" that's now in Florida ☝️

- Boss34


Yeah I'd take Reinhart over Girgensons 8 days a week. Intangibles are good, but ability and talent are better.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
Ugh what a putt from Sergio
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
Nice post 🌮
- Boss34


I feel the same about Kyle.
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