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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 1:14 PM ET
Yet the Sabres just came out and said about 2 hours ago that this situation is all Jack Eichels fault?

HOw is that helping.

- ImThatGuy

the nhlpa gave teams the hammer when it comes to medical treatment...plain and simple...if he doesn't like it, he can go to medical arb...but he hasn't
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
This is an option, but realistically, they're going to work with him.

Today's presser sounded WAY different than the previous "we hold all the cards" one.

Really think there was a really contentious behind the scenes relationship that spilled over.

- gcomella34

yes...they're going to work with him and his new agent to come to an amicable conclusion, but to say the sabres have no power isn't correct
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 23 @ 1:17 PM ET
yes...they're going to work with him and his new agent to come to an amicable conclusion, but to say the sabres have no power isn't correct
- Michael Pachla


Sabres hold the cards for 10 more months.

They also missed several opportunities the past 12 months to get good value for him.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 23 @ 1:19 PM ET
the nhlpa gave teams the hammer when it comes to medical treatment...plain and simple...if he doesn't like it, he can go to medical arb...but he hasn't
- Michael Pachla


They are still paying him 10m per. It's not much of a hammer.

Everyone is calling KA's bluff here, and his hand just keeps getting weaker.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
Now twatwaffle is appropriate.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
Now twatwaffle is appropriate.
- jochfr

Hey dont be taking my terms

Don't be that guy.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
They are still paying him 10m per. It's not much of a hammer.

Everyone is calling KA's bluff here, and his hand just keeps getting weaker.

- Lunaion

I’ve never seen a worse start by a GM/management over two offseason’s, maybe in all of sports.

r8edr
Joined: 07.06.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
I'm a little confused by some of the post in this thread. Every site I look at shows that Eichel's NMC doesn't kick in until next year. At the moment Adam's should be free to trade him to any team in the league.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
I’ve never seen a worse start by a GM/management over two offseason’s, maybe in all of sports.
- sbroads24


It's been catastrophic. I don't know how people can defend it.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Sabres hold the cards for 10 more months.

They also missed several opportunities the past 12 months to get good value for him.

- Pegullaville


I don't get where all of the sword swallowers here think that the sky has fallen and some big opportunity has been missed. They are gambling that he will be healthy before the end of the season, which I think is a good gamble. That in itself isn't incompetence.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
I'm a little confused by some of the post in this thread. Every site I look at shows that Eichel's NMC doesn't kick in until next year. At the moment Adam's should be free to trade him to any team in the league.
- r8edr


People here discussing his NMC are referring to next offseason.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Sep 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
yes...they're going to work with him and his new agent to come to an amicable conclusion, but to say the sabres have no power isn't correct
- Michael Pachla



It's not Jack has all the power of the org has all the power. It's a blend. And you don't WANT it to go the nuclear route.

It's better for ALL parties if everyone just kind of takes a step back and takes a breath.

It sounds like Jack firing his agent and logging off Twitter was a start.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Instigators is a good listen today. A lot of good perspective from Marty, who can relate to what's happening here. Give it a listen.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Guess you didn’t hear the part where he told Benning to Frank himself and told him either Chicago or Anaheim right after I guess.

Good thing they didn’t get more from Pittsburgh before that happened.

- Pegullaville


I sure did. Listened to the whole thing. And yeah, he got his way in the end, much like we would expect Eichel to (really depends on "what his way" is. Most think it's just get me the (frank) outta here). But man, Kesler didn't get his way right away, Vancouver didn't bend the knee for a subpar return, and they got something to their liking from Anaheim. Good thing his situation is exactly how I've been saying all along. You act like I'm saying Eichel doesn't have any power, while I'm actually just saying he doesn't have all of it, much like Kesler didn't. Also, you can hear it in his voice, he's pissed off he didn't get traded to Pitt and missed out on a cup, still, 7 years later. So yeah, color me skeptical that "he got his way"
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Sep 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
I’ve never seen a worse start by a GM/management over two offseason’s, maybe in all of sports.
- sbroads24



Dave Gettleman.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Sep 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
Instigators is a good listen today. A lot of good perspective from Marty, who can relate to what's happening here. Give it a listen.
- TheSabresTaco



It was very balanced.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
It's not Jack has all the power of the org has all the power. It's a blend. And you don't WANT it to go the nuclear route.

It's better for ALL parties if everyone just kind of takes a step back and takes a breath.

It sounds like Jack firing his agent and logging off Twitter was a start.

- gcomella34


Did anything fundamentally change? It's the same stalemate with fewer public statements.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
Yea but Eichel is different, Buffalo has all the Power.
- ImThatGuy


They do have all the Power, Owen Power.

But seriously, she me once where I haven't tried to elicit that with a NMC Buffalo has all the power. I will delete my account if you want me to. I have said repeatedly that a NMC gives close to a 50/50 split in power, maybe even leaning the players way.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
Sabres hold the cards for 10 more months.

They also missed several opportunities the past 12 months to get good value for him.

- Pegullaville

can you name the trade partners and what the presented as "good value" was?
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Sep 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
Did anything fundamentally change? It's the same stalemate with fewer public statements.
- Lunaion



There wasn't a fundamental change rather a circumstantial one.

Make no mistake, taking a raging blaze down to a smoldering fire is very helpful in a negotiation even when the fundamental hasn't changed.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
It's been catastrophic. I don't know how people can defend it.
- Lunaion


it's been catastrophic since they decided to tank some 10 years ago
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
can you name the trade partners and what the presented as "good value"?
- Michael Pachla

Kravstov + Georgiev + Jones + 1st

Kravstov was just ranked the number 34 prospect and the stud prospect all Sabres fans would want in an Eichel package, Nils Lundkvist, was ranked 26. So they are fairly similar in value.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
Kravstov + Georgiev + Jones + 1st

Kravstov was just ranked the number 34 prospect and the stud prospect all Sabres fans would want in an Eichel package, Nils Lundkvist, was ranked 26. So they are fairly similar in value.

- rangerdanger94



Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
Kravstov + Georgiev + Jones + 1st

Kravstov was just ranked the number 34 prospect and the stud prospect all Sabres fans would want in an Eichel package, Nils Lundkvist, was ranked 26. So they are fairly similar in value.

- rangerdanger94


good, I hope you just enjoy them
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
Kravstov + Georgiev + Jones + 1st

Kravstov was just ranked the number 34 prospect and the stud prospect all Sabres fans would want in an Eichel package, Nils Lundkvist, was ranked 26. So they are fairly similar in value.

- rangerdanger94


Ah the ol' Vitali "can't score above .5 ppg in any league above the VHL, but is a can't miss prospect" Kravstov post. Save time, no.
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