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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:49 AM ET
I don’t get the nmc being an issue at all, if Eichel wants out he’s gonna have to accept a trade to a less than desirable team (possibly).

Adams: we have a good trade from the ducks Jack we are going to trade you to Anaheim.
Jack: no I don’t want to go to Anaheim.
Adams: ok they I guess you are staying in Buffalo
Jack: Anaheim sounds good, thanks.

- Sabres1523


No he doesnt, that's the power.

Buffalo has to HONROR THE CONTRACCT, since that seems to be the prevailing theme.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
I fail to see how getting nothing for Jack Eichel speeds up the rebuild.

I also don’t see why any free agent or draft pick would want to come to Buffalo if we hold players hostage.

- Pegullaville



I'm not worried about free agents right now and I don't think they are either. They're going to build it through the draft, create that new culture and go from there. Free agents are the last thing on their minds for the next two years, I'm guessing. And, imo, that's the right thing to do. You'll see guys on one year deals to fill in a few gaps, but these kids are gong to take over.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
I can't see Eichel rejecting a trade anywhere if it means playing hockey again and getting the hell out of here
- Hank Balling



Eichel says "ill go to Boston or NYR. Dont listen to any other offers because ill reject the trade, make it happen."

Buffalo has no choice.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
They offered Eichel a full NMC, they gave him all the power.

The Sabres offered and signed the contract.

Everyone wants to talk about honoring contracts, but when the Sabres lose power its "Well we can just tell him to shove it"

Cant have it both ways.

- ImThatGuy


Agreed. But a full NMC doesn't mean Eichel can walk in and say I'm going to Boston, figure out a package. Not implying you are saying that, but it does go both ways. Guys get traded to undesirable locations and retire (Wash defenseman that the name is escaping, Russian lad, and of course Berglund). A NMC doesn't shift all the leverage to Eichel, but a good chunk sure. It really would come down to does he really want to stay here, which the overriding thought is no.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
Eichel says ill go here or here, make it happen.

Buffalo has no choice.

- ImThatGuy



They absolutely have a choice, if he wants out bad enough.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
I fail to see how getting nothing for Jack Eichel speeds up the rebuild.

I also don’t see why any free agent or draft pick would want to come to Buffalo if we hold players hostage.

- Pegullaville

held hostage?


Jack told the sabres fire disco dan or I will not sign a contract with this club

they fired Disco sucks, Jack signs for 80 mil

Jack chose to sign for 8 years at 10 mil per

then he cries twice says he wants out in private, and takes it back the next day both times

then he gets hurt this year, and refuses to get the surgery, refuses to go to medical arbitration, and demands the team trades him for pennies on the dollar

and because he refused the surgery, he is unable to compete at training camp today


I think you need to look up the definition to see who held who hostage
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
Agreed. But a full NMC doesn't mean Eichel can walk in and say I'm going to Boston, figure out a package. Not implying you are saying that, but it does go both ways. Guys get traded to undesirable locations and retire (Wash defenseman that the name is escaping, Russian lad, and of course Berglund). A NMC doesn't shift all the leverage to Eichel, but a good chunk sure. It really would come down to does he really want to stay here, which the overriding thought is no.
- SDSabre


ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
They absolutely have a choice, if he wants out bad enough.
- Powerslave


Buffalo would be the first team in history not to honor a full NMC.

Remember when Rick Nash only wanted to go to NYR.
Remember when Taylor Hall only wanted to go to Boston.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:54 AM ET

- Pegullaville


But thats different, somehow.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
Eichel says "ill go to Boston or NYR. Dont listen to any other offers because ill reject the trade, make it happen."

Buffalo has no choice.

- ImThatGuy


I disagree, if he wants out as bad as presumed. He might block a trade to, like say, Arizona or something, but he can't just say I want to go here, figure it out. Buffalo would just counter with "No". End of discussion, hope that LTIR is treating you nicely.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
Eichel says ill go here or here, make it happen.

Buffalo has no choice.

- ImThatGuy


Again, I'm pretty sure he'd go anywhere. If he's willing to take it that far though, he's risking not playing for 2+ years in the prime of his career.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
Again, I'm pretty sure he'd go anywhere. If he's willing to take it that far though, he's risking not playing for 2+ years in the prime of his career.
- Hank Balling


Something something, breach of contract.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
No he doesnt, that's the power.

Buffalo has to HONROR THE CONTRACCT, since that seems to be the prevailing theme.

- ImThatGuy

buffalo also has several months where they can trade him to any team


when the 2022 offseason begins, the sabres also then have the rights to do nothing and force Jack to rot in Buffalo, or the KHL
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
I disagree, if he wants out as bad as presumed. He might block a trade to, like say, Arizona or something, but he can't just say I want to go here, figure it out. Buffalo would just counter with "No". End of discussion, hope that LTIR is treating you nicely.
- SDSabre


Yes he can, he has a full NMC.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
But thats different, somehow.
- ImThatGuy


I mean, 1 year rental for 20 some odd games, 2 against Buffalo who had already locked down last vs sending to a rival for 4+ years. Can't tell if you are serious, or just arguing to argue. It is immensely different, and I'll leave it at that.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
buffalo also has several months where they can trade him to any team


when the 2022 offseason begins, the sabres also then have the rights to do nothing and force Jack to rot in Buffalo, or the KHL

- homiedclown


something something, breach of contract.


Also letting Jack rot is suicide for buffalo.

Signed,
NHLPA
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET

- Pegullaville


20 games vs 4 years. Different, but again who's keeping score at home.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
Buffalo would be the first team in history not to honor a full NMC.

Remember when Rick Nash only wanted to go to NYR.
Remember when Taylor Hall only wanted to go to Boston.

- ImThatGuy



Apples and oranges.

If Jack wants out bad enough, he's going to consider every scenario the Sabres throw at him. The guy simply doesn't want to play here anymore. How bad that desire is will be evident if this reaches next July.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
They offered Eichel a full NMC, they gave him all the power.

The Sabres offered and signed the contract.

Everyone wants to talk about honoring contracts, but when the Sabres lose power its "Well we can just tell him to shove it"

Cant have it both ways.

- ImThatGuy


Oh my gosh. You don't honor Sh!t after the way hes handled this whole situation.

Funny thing is Jack would be gone by now if he didn't bring that attitude and the BS to the year end interviews.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
Yes he can, he has a full NMC.
- ImThatGuy

next summer
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
No he doesnt, that's the power.

Buffalo has to HONROR THE CONTRACCT, since that seems to be the prevailing theme.

- ImThatGuy

Just because he has a nmc doesn’t mean they have to trade him, he’s also under contract and is not complying with what the team is asking him to do.

If they have a good trade to send him somewhere he doesn’t want to go, it’s his choice to use the clause they gave him, but that doesn’t mean the Sabres have to turn around and deal him for peanuts.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
I mean, 1 year rental for 20 some odd games, 2 against Buffalo who had already locked down last vs sending to a rival for 4+ years. Can't tell if you are serious, or just arguing to argue. It is immensely different, and I'll leave it at that.
- SDSabre


The Sabres had a better offer on the table for Hall.

Hall said no im not going there.

Buffalo didnt just say okay you can rot in buffalo for the rest of teh year, they took a lesser offer to HONOR THE CONTRACT.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
20 games vs 4 years. Different, but again who's keeping score at home.
- SDSabre


Buffalo would have gotten more from Vegas but Hall nixed the deal.

Eichel has the power to nix any deal if he is still here a year from now.

Time remaining on the contract is irrelevant
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
Oh my gosh. You don't honor Sh!t after the way hes handled this whole situation.

Funny thing is Jack would be gone by now if he didn't bring that attitude and the BS to the year end interviews.

- DirtyDan

something something, breach of contract.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
something something, breach of contract.


Also letting Jack rot is suicide for buffalo.

Signed,
NHLPA

- ImThatGuy

actually drafting Jack was the suicide for Buffalo


nothing but a cancer since he got here
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