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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 8:32 AM ET
It's sort of interesting. He's made $5.9m in his career and is due $1.5m this year. I guess he'll get paid this year regardless, but does he get a contract in the future if he doesn't get the shot? Even if he did get the shot, is he _now_ worth the contract given that he's indicating he's not a team player?

I go back to that thing - people have the choice, but when you work in a tight community situation (i.e., a closed office or with the same people day in / day out at times in closed quarters), you expose everyone unnecessarily. I hear the argument that it's unfair, but it's more unfair to everyone else around these anti-vax or conspiracy pushers to have to accept a higher risk of being exposed every day.

I like the way Archibald plays, but this is sort of one of those indicators - I probably wouldn't want him on my team in the future were I a GM.

- Monkeypunk


Ya, it'll be interesting to see if any of the 10 or less guys stick to their principles. Bertuzzi's the only semi-important guy I've heard of that hasn't committed to getting vax'ed.

He's going to lose $$ either way I think ....no $$ if he can't play. Not sure if that applies if he's in the AHL and has to quarantine after travel? Sounds like he'd be giving up about 40% of his income. Big choice.

Is he single? Mrs. Law would run up the credit card and say (frank) you ..get to work.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 23 @ 8:34 AM ET
Kid has to keep his political views out of the rink. Does he not see how well other players have done in the past few years, voicing their opinions.

- bixll


Pretty much, yeah.

There's a ridiculous pull these days among the radicalized people on both sides. You have the nutty right claim that anyone who supports a conservative agenda is a Nazi. You have the nutty left claim that anyone who supports a liberal agenda is a fascist. I think platforms like Twitter make it seem more divided than it is by giving a voice to everyone.

At the end of the day all anyone really wants from one another is: don't be a Richard. Be decent to each other.

Personally I think a part of that starts by getting the vaccine and showing that you care about those around you. I know one local lady who was advised by her doctor to wait because she has some respiratory allergies / problems and there's some vaccine pending that may work better for her. So she still has to avoid crowds - but she wants the vaccine. People who actively advocate not to get it simply aren't helping.

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
Also there's the fact that six billion doses of the vaccine have been administered and people are fine. Being anti-vax is like being anti-antibiotics or anti-x-ray, it's (frank)ing stupid.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 23 @ 8:38 AM ET
Ya, it'll be interesting to see if any of the 10 or less guys stick to their principles. Bertuzzi's the only semi-important guy I've heard of that hasn't committed to getting vax'ed.

He's going to lose $$ either way I think ....no $$ if he can't play. Not sure if that applies if he's in the AHL and has to quarantine after travel? Sounds like he'd be giving up about 40% of his income. Big choice.

Is he single? Mrs. Law would run up the credit card and say (frank) you ..get to work.

- The Law


For Bertuzzi - I take it he will just stay in Detroit when the team goes to Canada?

No point coming to Canada and then needing to quarantine. I imagine he plays 100% of home games and 100% of USA games. He may only miss pay for Canada days.


Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 23 @ 8:48 AM ET
Also there's the fact that six billion doses of the vaccine have been administered and people are fine. Being anti-vax is like being anti-antibiotics or anti-x-ray, it's (frank)ing stupid.
- Zezel


The earth is flat, the moon isn't real, the moon landing was faked, 5G causes cancer, microchips, chemtrails, Big Foot, Lochness, The Abominable Snowman, JFK, the Illuminati . . .

I mean, it's not like we shouldn't have seen this coming.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 8:53 AM ET
Eichel no longer the captain of the Buffalo Sabres???

What.....?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 8:54 AM ET
The earth is flat, the moon isn't real, the moon landing was faked, 5G causes cancer, microchips, chemtrails, Big Foot, Lochness, The Abominable Snowman, JFK, the Illuminati . . .

I mean, it's not like we shouldn't have seen this coming.

- Monkeypunk


But the Lochness monster is real.. Groundskeeper Willie told us all that
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 23 @ 8:58 AM ET
But the Lochness monster is real.. Groundskeeper Willie told us all that
- PatC80


I'd be inclined to believe him. Rumour has it that there's nary an animal alive that can outrun him when he's all greased up.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:04 AM ET
Pretty much, yeah.

There's a ridiculous pull these days among the radicalized people on both sides. You have the nutty right claim that anyone who supports a conservative agenda is a Nazi. You have the nutty left claim that anyone who supports a liberal agenda is a fascist. I think platforms like Twitter make it seem more divided than it is by giving a voice to everyone.

At the end of the day all anyone really wants from one another is: don't be a Richard. Be decent to each other.

Personally I think a part of that starts by getting the vaccine and showing that you care about those around you. I know one local lady who was advised by her doctor to wait because she has some respiratory allergies / problems and there's some vaccine pending that may work better for her. So she still has to avoid crowds - but she wants the vaccine. People who actively advocate not to get it simply aren't helping.

- Monkeypunk



bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:05 AM ET
Eichel no longer the captain of the Buffalo Sabres???

What.....?

- PatC80



He will be traded 2 months ago..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
Go ahead and voice your opinions but don’t do things that directly affect your team.
- Canada Cup



Voicing your opinion worked out for Tony DeAngelo.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 23 @ 9:09 AM ET
Eichel no longer the captain of the Buffalo Sabres???

What.....?

- PatC80


Are you actually surprised they didn't want to identify the guy openly wanting to leave as their leader?
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:11 AM ET
The earth is flat, the moon isn't real, the moon landing was faked, 5G causes cancer, microchips, chemtrails, Big Foot, Lochness, The Abominable Snowman, JFK, the Illuminati . . .

I mean, it's not like we shouldn't have seen this coming.

- Monkeypunk

this
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 23 @ 9:13 AM ET
6:30am practice 🤨
Games Friday Saturday and Sunday
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 23 @ 9:13 AM ET
Eichel no longer the captain of the Buffalo Sabres???

What.....?

- PatC80


Makes me appreciate Mitch Marner just a little more.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 23 @ 9:16 AM ET
Eichel no longer the captain of the Buffalo Sabres???

What.....?

- PatC80


This should surprise noone.

The relationship is over. It's done. The team is moving forward without Eichel.

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out they took out his locker space.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 9:19 AM ET
I'd be inclined to believe him. Rumour has it that there's nary an animal alive that can outrun him when he's all greased up.
- Monkeypunk


not even the great werewolf felt bad for losing. Not the wolfs fault that he's been wreslin' wolves since they were at their mother's 'side'
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 9:21 AM ET
Are you actually surprised they didn't want to identify the guy openly wanting to leave as their leader?
- Scabeh


A bit surprised, because now it should mean a trade is imminent, right? I mean, you don't take the captaincy away and then tell him to play... It's not like he's Patrick Marleau or Joe Thornton and there's a Pavelski on Buffalo
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 9:22 AM ET
This should surprise noone.

The relationship is over. It's done. The team is moving forward without Eichel.

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out they took out his locker space.

- Leafs43



I would think he has to be traded now.. Otherwise, why do such a thing?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 23 @ 9:23 AM ET
A bit surprised, because now it should mean a trade is imminent, right? I mean, you don't take the captaincy away and then tell him to play... It's not like he's Patrick Marleau or Joe Thornton and there's a Pavelski on Buffalo
- PatC80


I simply cannot imagine him playing for Buffalo again.

So yes, a trade is "imminent" but it's been "imminent" for 4 months now.


What a mess.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
I would think he has to be traded now.. Otherwise, why do such a thing?
- PatC80


I'm pretty sure he never plays for the Sabres again.

He isn't healthy. He still needs surgery and they can't agree on which, so he can't play.

Buffalo won't trade him, because no one is offering fair value for a superstar who needs to undergo risky surgery to fix a serious (disk?) problem.

They are basically at a stalemate. But it is a stalemate that I think Eichel will win assuming he is getting paid.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
I'm pretty sure he never plays for the Sabres again.

He isn't healthy. He still needs surgery and they can't agree on which, so he can't play.

Buffalo won't trade him, because no one is offering fair value for a superstar who needs to undergo risky surgery to fix a serious (disk?) problem.

They are basically at a stalemate. But it is a stalemate that I think Eichel will win assuming he is getting paid.

- Leafs43


Imagine him not playing the whole year.

That'd be pretty (frank)ing devastating.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:29 AM ET
Imagine him not playing the whole year.

That'd be pretty (frank)ing devastating.

- Scabeh



Coming in for a team to start the playoffs, 11 mill over the cap... Hummmm


Could never happen.. NHL would never allow a team to come into the playoffs, 11 mill over the cap....
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 23 @ 9:32 AM ET
Imagine him not playing the whole year.

That'd be pretty (frank)ing devastating.

- Scabeh


Buffalo isn't gonna win this if Eichel is still being paid.

They just need to let him get the surgery he wants. Hope it works out, and that he is good to go.

Maybe he is healthy by TDL if they let him get the surgery now? Not sure how many takers there would be, but I'm pretty sure Eichel will just sit at home and collect his $$$ if he doesn't get his way.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 23 @ 9:32 AM ET
Coming in for a team to start the playoffs, 11 mill over the cap... Hummmm


Could never happen.. NHL would never allow a team to come into the playoffs, 11 mill over the cap....

- bixll


Haha yeah, no way.

That'd be crazy.

Haha

hoho

hehe






(frank).
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