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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Have we officially declared the Justin Bieber Leafs clothing line total poop yet?

What the hell were the Leafs thinking?

I get that you want to sell crap that's associated with the Biebs, but why not make it good stuff?

- Atomic Wedgie

It’s just a ploy to keep Matthews with the leafs forever. They needed to keep Matthews best friend associated with the team.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
PA is fighting CBJ decision not to let what’s his name come to camp. As I recall, that wasn’t part of the agreement they had with League so they might win.

Not interested in this particular riveting HB squabble

- Canada Cup


So they say, "Hey. You can't not invite him to camp because he didn't get vaccinated!" and then they argue and argue and finally someone says, "Fine. Legally you can't do that."

If training camp hasn't ended by that time (fat chance), then the Jackets just say, "Fine. He's not invited to camp because he sucks and he's a disruptive influence on the team. If he grows up and learns how to act like an adult, he'll get invited to camp in the future." They can't do jack about that.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
Willy not fully vaccinated yet. (Not legally allowed in arenas etc atm)

I was right.

That’s why he wasn’t at Sweden camp.

Apology accepted (depending on who the apologizer is)

- Arctic_AARDVARK


He’s in the arena and will be on the ice
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
So they say, "Hey. You can't not invite him to camp because he didn't get vaccinated!" and then they argue and argue and finally someone says, "Fine. Legally you can't do that."

If training camp hasn't ended by that time (fat chance), then the Jackets just say, "Fine. He's not invited to camp because he sucks and he's a disruptive influence on the team. If he grows up and learns how to act like an adult, he'll get invited to camp in the future." They can't do jack about that.

- Monkeypunk


I don’t know how quickly they could get some kind of order or if they could but the Jackets specifically tied the decision not to invite him to camp to his vaccination status which is contrary to their agreement. The PA has to step in. And no, being a baby is not grounds to be disinvited to camp.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
He’s in the arena and will be on the ice
- Canada Cup

Because the passport is for patrons, not employees.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
Oh it’s dead and buried to me.

I won the squabble. Lock. Stock. And muh(frank)in’ Barrel.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Nice to see you are taking the win humbly, like it has happened before.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 22 @ 12:23 PM ET
PA is fighting CBJ decision not to let what’s his name come to camp. As I recall, that wasn’t part of the agreement they had with League so they might win.

Not interested in this particular riveting HB squabble

- Canada Cup


Hmm wonder if signing a 2-way contract guarantees you entrance into the NHL camp?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
Hmm wonder if signing a 2-way contract guarantees you entrance into the NHL camp?
- The Law



Sounds like a legal question....... Let's see, who could we ask....
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Because the passport is for patrons, not employees.
- bobbyisno1


MLSE requires all event personnel to be vaccinated. Players are governed by a separate agreement with the PA
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Sounds like a legal question....... Let's see, who could we ask....
- bixll


Ek?
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
MLSE requires all event personnel to be vaccinated. Players are governed by a separate agreement with the PA
- Canada Cup


PA SHMEEAY!!!

If a player goes against the grain of a team, the said team can (frank) him, and (frank) him good if they really want to. Just ask Kaepernick.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
I don’t know how quickly they could get some kind of order or if they could but the Jackets specifically tied the decision not to invite him to camp to his vaccination status which is contrary to their agreement. The PA has to step in. And no, being a baby is not grounds to be disinvited to camp.
- Canada Cup


I have absolutely no knowledge on how this particular process works - but it is still my understanding that the team controls who they choose to invite. There is no rule forcing you to have players at camp just like there is no rule forcing you to have a player on your roster. If he has a one-way contract, he must be waived prior to the start of the regular season before he can be assigned off of the main roster. This year teams can only invite 36 players to camp, I think I read . . .that would mean that there are players that they are choosing not to invite. Obviously those guys won't have 1-way deals, but the point remains that the team should be allowed to choose. If Rinaldo has any grievance, the PA should be seeking to terminate his deal so he can look for employment elsewhere . . . where they don't care that's he's a baby.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
PA SHMEEAY!!!

If a player goes against the grain of a team, the said team can (frank) him, and (frank) him good if they really want to. Just ask Kaepernick.

- winsix


So, what rules is Willie governed by? The agreement with the PA or MLSE? Will he be on the ice?
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
So, what rules is Willie governed by? The agreement with the PA or MLSE? Will he be on the ice?
- Canada Cup


He'll conform as others will have to or face the music, the rest is noise.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 12:44 PM ET
For those of you looking to get a head start on the 2021-22 Official Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread:

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
I have so many questions about the Bieber line of Leafs crap, but here's my first question:

Are the players getting paid for promoting this crap? I don't think that's allowed, as per the CBA.

https://twitter.com/Maple...tatus/1440467573426900993
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
For those of you looking to get a head start on the 2021-22 Official Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread:


- Atomic Wedgie


Mitch Marner - 6 puck over glass penalties
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
So, what rules is Willie governed by? The agreement with the PA or MLSE? Will he be on the ice?
- Canada Cup


That MLSE can’t enforce anything on the players so it has to be the agreement with the NHLPA that lets the leafs know what they’ll have to do
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
I have so many questions about the Bieber line of Leafs crap, but here's my first question:

Are the players getting paid for promoting this crap? I don't think that's allowed, as per the CBA.

https://twitter.com/Maple...tatus/1440467573426900993

- Atomic Wedgie


Pretty ugly stuff - was the designer high, or just have minimal artistic talent? Players can advertise on their helmets this year, not jerseys - who gets the juice?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
That MLSE can’t enforce anything on the players so it has to be the agreement with the NHLPA that lets the leafs know what they’ll have to do
- Dozzer

Although to make it more complicated, Ontario and Toronto laws could prevent Willie from entering the arena.

I'm pretty sure I read that parents have to be double-vaxxed to enter Toronto arenas - but I can't remember if that's just arenas owned by the City, or a blanket rule.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
Pretty ugly stuff - was the designer high, or just have minimal artistic talent? Players can advertise on their helmets this year, not jerseys - who gets the juice?
- winsix

Hockey-related revenues, so as per CBA, players get 50% allocated to the salary cap.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
I have so many questions about the Bieber line of Leafs crap, but here's my first question:

Are the players getting paid for promoting this crap? I don't think that's allowed, as per the CBA.

https://twitter.com/Maple...tatus/1440467573426900993

- Atomic Wedgie


If the players are paid by Drew House then it's not really a CBA violation. If the Leafs are giving Drew House money then it's a conflict of interest violation. I would, however, imagine that Drew House is paying to use the Leafs' logo and the paying to have Leaf players promote it. There's no conflict there.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
He'll conform as others will have to or face the music, the rest is noise.
- winsix


Lol. That’s the PA agreement which allows him to come to the arena (where he is) and be on the ice) where he’ll be.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
Although to make it more complicated, Ontario and Toronto laws could prevent Willie from entering the arena.

I'm pretty sure I read that parents have to be double-vaxxed to enter Toronto arenas - but I can't remember if that's just arenas owned by the City, or a blanket rule.

- Atomic Wedgie


He’s already in there
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
new blog everyone
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