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Bufsaints8
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: TN
Joined: 07.20.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
Dahlin doesn't want to sign a long term deal because the one that we would offer would be for much less than what he feels like he will be worth in 3 years.. is this not that hard to understand?
- SabresFaninIndiana


Apparently
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
Hate the fuel the fire, but early reports are year 3 of the deal is 7.2 base salary. That means a 7.2m QO. It's the maximum allowed, after the rule change last summer (120% x 6m).

I'll always defend bridges, but KA caved on term, $, and structure here.

- Lunaion


Lends credence to the belief that Dahlin is much more happy with this deal than the Sabres. A lesson learned from Reinhart. For a bridge deal, I think that's a favorable scenario.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
Tyler Bertuzzi will forfeit $400,000 because of the games he will be forced to miss in Canada if he remains unvaccinated.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:36 PM ET

- homiedclown

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
How in the world do we know what Dahlin wants/thinks at this point ?

Why do people keep alluding to this being Dahlin pushing a shorter term deal

For all we know Dahlin wanted 7-8 years, the team wanted 1 and they met in the middle

The result is the worst result for the Buffalo Sabres outside of him retiring or demanding a trade

It once again kicks the can

- sbroads24

they'll have him for a total of 14 yrs if everything projects out as it should

3 yr entry level deal
3 yr extension
8 yr extension

how is that 3rd worst?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
Everyone needs to eat a Snickers
- jochfr

Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
they'll have him for a total of 14 yrs if everything projects out as it should

3 yr entry level deal
3 yr extension
8 yr extension

how is that 3rd worst?

- Michael Pachla


At the end of the day …… the Sabres will still have dahlins rights and able to backup the truck and give him what ever contract he wants

If we move Eichel soon. How’s our cap spade looking?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
Can someone post a quote of Dahlin saying he doesn’t wanna sign long term?

Oh you can’t?

- sbroads24


I did hear of see one thing directly from Dahlin's camp nor Sabres.
One thing we should all recognize with the Sabres under Adams... nothing get leaked, and all this I heard" is a bunch of BS.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
Lends credence to the belief that Dahlin is much more happy with this deal than the Sabres. A lesson learned from Reinhart. For a bridge deal, I think that's a favorable scenario.
- TheSabresTaco


I know people disagree strongly on Sam. IMO the only real lesson is really GM 101, make an actual decision after the bridge.

If the Sabres are still a dysfunctional mess in 3 years, and he wants to leave, then there's no reason for KA to care because he's fired.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
One staged phone call = reinhart wanted to stay.

You're kidding right?

Imagine the 1st phone call and how it ended, that sam needed to call back and be nicer. ☝️

These agents get the gist a that their client was being filmed.... roll camera

- Boss34


Sorry he didn’t sign your stuff, I just get the impression that not only has he grown immensely as a player, but also as a person over the last 3 years. And how would he know the cameras were rolling on the Sabres side? Or that KA wouldn’t take the call in private. Sam seems genuine. Sorry you don’t feel he is. Much like he said he’d be open to staying, and Risto would say he’d be open to leaving. Is what it is.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
they'll have him for a total of 14 yrs if everything projects out as it should

3 yr entry level deal
3 yr extension
8 yr extension

how is that 3rd worst?

- Michael Pachla

people are acting like Dahlin just signed a 3 year deal in the KHL
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
At the end of the day …… the Sabres will still have dahlins rights and able to backup the truck and give him what ever contract he wants

If we move Eichel soon. How’s our cap spade looking?

- Sabretooth9

if he evolves into the player he can be, a $12M +/- aav over 8 years would equal a total of 11 yrs at an AAV of $10.36M...that's a pretty good deal, imo
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
people are acting like Dahlin just signed a 3 year deal in the KHL
- homiedclown

meh...people seem to get offended when the outcome doesn't go their way...we're all well aware of what's transpired the last 10 years, but we're also not fully (or even close to being) aware of what happened behind the scenes...nor are we even close to knowing what's going on inside the head's of individual players...

save for poor, poor jack who has nothing to be happy about...supreme doucheyness
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
Whether we spend to the cap or just enough to get over the floor this team is finishing bottom 5 this year and next (most likely)

Having flexibility with Dahlin may have allowed us to get him done long term next year or the year after.

So yes a 1 year bridge, followed by another possible 1 year bridge is better than a 3 year bridge leading him right to arb with UFA rights

- Pegullaville


We already suck. Whats going to change his mind when we suck for the next 2 years?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
people are acting like Dahlin just signed a 3 year deal in the KHL
- homiedclown

Stop, no one is

I’m already over it

Carry on
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
Stop, no one is

I’m already over it

Carry on

- sbroads24



SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
is there an injury in the Bills CB/S players? they holding workouts for two CB this week supposedly
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
And the fun begins!!!
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
We already suck. Whats going to change his mind when we suck for the next 2 years?
- DirtyDan

maybe we will suck less? its hard to out suck last season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
is there an injury in the Bills CB/S players? they holding workouts for two CB this week supposedly
- SabresFaninIndiana

levi got dinged up
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
is there an injury in the Bills CB/S players? they holding workouts for two CB this week supposedly
- SabresFaninIndiana

trying to add quality depth?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
And the fun begins!!!
- Buff36



Once Eichel fails the physical in the next hour or 2. That’s when the fun begins
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
And the fun begins!!!
- Buff36

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
levi got dinged up
- homiedclown

levi is not all that great...yeah, he made the pick on an incredibly poor decision, but he's been burned on multiple occasions, many times within a single game
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
Hate the fuel the fire, but early reports are year 3 of the deal is 7.2 base salary. That means a 7.2m QO. It's the maximum allowed, after the rule change last summer (120% x 6m).

I'll always defend bridges, but KA caved on term, $, and structure here.

- Lunaion


Would it be unusual for a player to not enjoy his experience with the Sabres.

Maybe try and make sure he has a way out of here?

Would it be possible the Sabres management just couldn't have both eichel and dahlin on the "trade block" and disgruntled.

Finally, pay dahlin, make him happy.

Sell him or resign him in 2 years when the Sabres have a better chance to win. Replace him with power ,if needed.
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